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Holz

Quote from: R.Griffen on July 06, 2016, 06:56:56 PM
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Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 06, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
I'm not enjoying this Heat Vs Wade poker game, it's appearing as though the Cavs may not want to trade Love and Wade could sign on the cheap to spite us, LeBron could take less to squeeze him in with trading Shumpert, they could trade Love but not us leaving us with nothing for our greatest player... feels like we are holding a 2 and a 7 off suit trying to bluff :(

He's meeting with Denver tomorrow apparently, they have offered him 50mill for 2 years.
http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/16811278/dwyane-wade-miami-heat-conundrum
Interesting read...
I cant believe he would leave over 10m and head to a non contender in the West, i think its more viable he would got to the Cavs on the 3.5m they can offer just to stick it to us, surely he wants more rings or to stay in Miami, nothing else, no in betweens...

its not going to happen but say Wade goes to the cavs for 3.4 mil

does anyone put them over the warriors?

Irving Wade James Love TT is pretty beastly if that stays healthy. Health is the only reason i would have the warriors over them.
That team isn't better than Warriors at full health with Durant

not sure i agree.

James > durrant especially in the playoffs

Irving actually has shown more in the playoffs then curry and is younger so should improve more. for the sake of people arguing Curry over him.

Love and TT combined i think match Green

Wade v Klay is interesting but i give it to wade if healthy.


remember they dont have barnes or bogut. TT should smash them on the boards, green can only do soo much.
You just matched 5 vs 4 obviously they aren't going to win in that case

How can you say Wade over Thompson? We are talking 2016/17 having a good history doesn't mean you are better atm

Stpeh vs Irving - Steph
Thompson vs Wade - Thompson
Durant vs LBJ - LBJ
Green vs Love - Green
Zaza vs TT - TT
Bench: GS vs Cavs - GS

because i dont rate Zaza at all.

they have sacked their whole team for the big 4.

the reason i have wade ahead is i said if he is healthy. He was pretty good this year and put up good numbers in the playoffs.

21.4 PPG, 5.6 RPG 4.3 APG 0.8 SPG 0.9 BPG on 46.9% FG with 52.2% 3 point.

klay thompson obviously is behind curry in the pecking order and wade had no bosh but still klays numbers where

24.3 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 2.3 APG 1.1 SPG, 0.4 BPG on 44.4% FG with 42.2% 3 point.

based on that I say Wade over Klay.

Wade is a 3 time champion, Klay and the rest of the warriors rolled over an injured cavs.

Wade has taken down a fit thunder, fit spurs and prime dirk

plumdog millionaire

Nothing about what you said is relevant to the question on why you would take Wade over Thompson - Especially if you consider both as 3rd options. Klay is assuredly the player you'd rather have as the 3rd guy. Better and more versatile on D, better off the ball and Wade will have had massive mileage April next year. Needless to say he is a much greater threat as a shooter

RiOtChEsS


Andrew3747

Wade is more effective overall, but Klay does more with less.

R.Griffen

Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 06, 2016, 06:56:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 06, 2016, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 06, 2016, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 06, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 06, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
I'm not enjoying this Heat Vs Wade poker game, it's appearing as though the Cavs may not want to trade Love and Wade could sign on the cheap to spite us, LeBron could take less to squeeze him in with trading Shumpert, they could trade Love but not us leaving us with nothing for our greatest player... feels like we are holding a 2 and a 7 off suit trying to bluff :(

He's meeting with Denver tomorrow apparently, they have offered him 50mill for 2 years.
http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/16811278/dwyane-wade-miami-heat-conundrum
Interesting read...
I cant believe he would leave over 10m and head to a non contender in the West, i think its more viable he would got to the Cavs on the 3.5m they can offer just to stick it to us, surely he wants more rings or to stay in Miami, nothing else, no in betweens...

its not going to happen but say Wade goes to the cavs for 3.4 mil

does anyone put them over the warriors?

Irving Wade James Love TT is pretty beastly if that stays healthy. Health is the only reason i would have the warriors over them.
That team isn't better than Warriors at full health with Durant

not sure i agree.

James > durrant especially in the playoffs

Irving actually has shown more in the playoffs then curry and is younger so should improve more. for the sake of people arguing Curry over him.

Love and TT combined i think match Green

Wade v Klay is interesting but i give it to wade if healthy.


remember they dont have barnes or bogut. TT should smash them on the boards, green can only do soo much.
You just matched 5 vs 4 obviously they aren't going to win in that case

How can you say Wade over Thompson? We are talking 2016/17 having a good history doesn't mean you are better atm

Stpeh vs Irving - Steph
Thompson vs Wade - Thompson
Durant vs LBJ - LBJ
Green vs Love - Green
Zaza vs TT - TT
Bench: GS vs Cavs - GS
they have sacked their whole team for the big 4

Wade is a 3 time champion, Klay and the rest of the warriors rolled over an injured cavs.

Wade has taken down a fit thunder, fit spurs and prime dirk
So ignorant it isn't funny

The Cavs literally have no bench they went games where the bench was basically scoreless.

We are in 2016! Does that mean if Jordan walked on the court he is still the better player? Players don't keep their value for teams they beat in the past. Natural progression

Wade is not the player he once was and for Klay if he rolled over an injured Cavs team well then Kyrie is worthless just like you are saying Thompson is because he rolled over an injured Warriors team

Holz

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Quote from: R.Griffen on July 07, 2016, 10:42:49 AM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 06, 2016, 06:56:56 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 06, 2016, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: Holz on July 06, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 06, 2016, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 06, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
Quote from: RiOtChEsS on July 06, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
I'm not enjoying this Heat Vs Wade poker game, it's appearing as though the Cavs may not want to trade Love and Wade could sign on the cheap to spite us, LeBron could take less to squeeze him in with trading Shumpert, they could trade Love but not us leaving us with nothing for our greatest player... feels like we are holding a 2 and a 7 off suit trying to bluff :(

He's meeting with Denver tomorrow apparently, they have offered him 50mill for 2 years.
http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/16811278/dwyane-wade-miami-heat-conundrum
Interesting read...
I cant believe he would leave over 10m and head to a non contender in the West, i think its more viable he would got to the Cavs on the 3.5m they can offer just to stick it to us, surely he wants more rings or to stay in Miami, nothing else, no in betweens...

its not going to happen but say Wade goes to the cavs for 3.4 mil

does anyone put them over the warriors?

Irving Wade James Love TT is pretty beastly if that stays healthy. Health is the only reason i would have the warriors over them.
That team isn't better than Warriors at full health with Durant

not sure i agree.

James > durrant especially in the playoffs

Irving actually has shown more in the playoffs then curry and is younger so should improve more. for the sake of people arguing Curry over him.

Love and TT combined i think match Green

Wade v Klay is interesting but i give it to wade if healthy.


remember they dont have barnes or bogut. TT should smash them on the boards, green can only do soo much.
You just matched 5 vs 4 obviously they aren't going to win in that case

How can you say Wade over Thompson? We are talking 2016/17 having a good history doesn't mean you are better atm

Stpeh vs Irving - Steph
Thompson vs Wade - Thompson
Durant vs LBJ - LBJ
Green vs Love - Green
Zaza vs TT - TT
Bench: GS vs Cavs - GS
they have sacked their whole team for the big 4

Wade is a 3 time champion, Klay and the rest of the warriors rolled over an injured cavs.

Wade has taken down a fit thunder, fit spurs and prime dirk
So ignorant it isn't funny

The Cavs literally have no bench they went games where the bench was basically scoreless.

We are in 2016! Does that mean if Jordan walked on the court he is still the better player? Players don't keep their value for teams they beat in the past. Natural progression

Wade is not the player he once was and for Klay if he rolled over an injured Cavs team well then Kyrie is worthless just like you are saying Thompson is because he rolled over an injured Warriors team

Wade is a three time champion that needs to count for something.

Klay was very hot in some games then went ice cold. he didnt even put up big numners when the won the ring 18.6 points, 3.2 rpg 2.9 apg on 39% 3 point shooting.

remember im not a wade fan, over the course of a season ill take Klay every single day of the week. Wade is basically following the spurs model just get to the finals then switch from 1st to 5th gear.

wades playoff numbers this year where amazing

46.9% FG   52.2% 3p   5.6 RPG 4.3 APG 0.8 SPG 0.9 BPG 21.4 PPG

Klay put up more points but was far less efficient doing it so wade actually took far less shots.

so i have now changed my tone Wade >> Klay in playoffs.

Klay >>>>>> Wade in regular season

Ill take the proven guy if his body isnt injured.


And for the irving v klay thing ill just put these 3 point percentage numbers up they say everything.

Irving Regular Season
2015: 41.5%
2016: 32.1%

Irving Post Season
2015: 45%
2016: 44%

Klay Regular Season
2015: 43.9%
2016: 42.5%

Klay Post Season
2015: 39%
2016: 42.2%

and while im at it

Curry Regular Season
2015: 44.3%
2016: 45.4%

Curry Post Season
2015: 42.2%
2016: 40.4%

plumdog millionaire


Jay

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 07, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
Holy shower Wade to the Bulls
That is flowered. One, that the relationship with Miami actually got this bad. And two, the Bulls are going to suck playing Rondo, Wade and Butler together. Horrible fit.

jvalles69

Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 07, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
Holy shower Wade to the Bulls

Holy shower, my favourite player to my team!?!?  When do the jerseys go on sale!!  ;D

R.Griffen

Quote from: jvalles69 on July 07, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 07, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
Holy shower Wade to the Bulls

Holy shower, my favourite player to my team!?!?  When do the jerseys go on sale!!  ;D
I was thinking wtf have the Bulls done trying to make a college all star team with 2 blokes I love being McDermott and Valentine. But now I seriously rate them if everything works out

jvalles69

Hmm...apparently Butler was on a Bill Simmons podcast recently and didn't sound like he was a fan of Wade.

plumdog millionaire

Quote from: Jay on July 07, 2016, 12:46:40 PM
Quote from: plumdog millionaire on July 07, 2016, 12:41:08 PM
Holy shower Wade to the Bulls
That is flowered. One, that the relationship with Miami actually got this bad. And two, the Bulls are going to suck playing Rondo, Wade and Butler together. Horrible fit.
Plus Lopez. Hoiberg is going to have a bad time running that team

plumdog millionaire

Dunleavy to the Cavs with the Varejao trade exception. Decent leverage against JR

Andrew3747

Can't use the ring argument when hes way past his prime. I take Wade over any SG not named Jordan, but right now, you gotta take Klay. He does way more with way less at this point.

valkorum

This is not a bad starting 5

Lopez
Gibson
Butler
Wade
Rondo

Then Buckets, Valentine, Mirotic coming off the bench.  Did the Bulls just become relevant in the East again?