NBA Draft & Off-Season News 2016

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jvalles69

Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

R.Griffen

Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality

My Chumps

Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X

jvalles69

Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X

Yeah, agree with this. Monta is a great scorer, but a cancer for teams trying to succeed.

My Chumps

Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X

Yeah, agree with this. Monta is a great scorer, but a cancer for teams trying to succeed.
Same applies for Gay, but he's never played with a superstar like George. He could potentially be more effective at playing the second option.

jvalles69

Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X

Yeah, agree with this. Monta is a great scorer, but a cancer for teams trying to succeed.
Same applies for Gay, but he's never played with a superstar like George. He could potentially be more effective at playing the second option.

He was the 2nd option behind Boogie too, he had a down year last year because of it.  Still capable of big games and has good size.  Imagine having Thad, George and Gay defending at the same time on the same team.  :o

valkorum

Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
Same applies for Gay, but he's never played with a superstar like George. He could potentially be more effective at playing the second option.

DMC isn't a superstar?  Please

Gay is a genuine 2nd/3rd scorer with average defensive abilities.  He is super long for a SF and can play PF in a small ball lineup... but I wouldn't be raving about his defense.

When DMC was out with injury last season and the load had to go to Gay, he wasn't able to step up.  He still put in his same numbers

jvalles69

Quote from: valkorum on July 04, 2016, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
Same applies for Gay, but he's never played with a superstar like George. He could potentially be more effective at playing the second option.

DMC isn't a superstar?  Please

Gay is a genuine 2nd/3rd scorer with average defensive abilities.  He is super long for a SF and can play PF in a small ball lineup... but I wouldn't be raving about his defense.

When DMC was out with injury last season and the load had to go to Gay, he wasn't able to step up.  He still put in his same numbers

Agree, but until last season he was a hell of a lot better.  Only 2 seasons ago he was definitely a 1st option since the start of his career, last year he regressed a lot, whether that's because noone wanted to play for the Kings or not, a fresh side where he does his part and he can be a great piece.

valkorum

Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 06:38:03 PM
Agree, but until last season he was a hell of a lot better.  Only 2 seasons ago he was definitely a 1st option since the start of his career, last year he regressed a lot, whether that's because noone wanted to play for the Kings or not, a fresh side where he does his part and he can be a great piece.

I would say wrong again.  He has been at the Kings for 3 seasons and there is NO WAY he is the 1st option when DMC is there.

Look at his stats from Torronto, when he was the number 1 option.  His usage rate was through the roof, his FG% is down (.425 1st year, .388 2nd year) and he averaged 19PPG a game.

He comes to Sacramento and instantly is the 2nd scoring option behind DMC.  His FG% shoots up .482, .455 & .463, his usage rate goes down and he averages around 20PPG.

His career PPG is 18.  He is a consistent scorer who will give you 18 - 20 PPG, regardless if he is the 1st option or 2nd/3rd option.  Which is why I believe he should be the 2nd/3rd option on a team.  His wing defense is a concern (along with everyone from Sacramento :P)

Jay

Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X
Larry Bird be like: "If we put seven 20ppg scorers together, we'll average 140 points!"

jvalles69

Personally on the Pacers I'd prefer Monta over Gay anyway.

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Jay on July 04, 2016, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X
Larry Bird be like: "If we put seven 20ppg scorers together, we'll average 140 points!"
bahaha frenchlick mathematics y'all ;D

R.Griffen

Quote from: Jay on July 04, 2016, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on July 04, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on July 04, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Gay at Indiana is insane, but how would they play PG13, Gay and Thad alongside each other??  PG13 would have to play SG, Gay SF and Thad PF.
Is Ellis still at Indiana? Or is he the one being traded for Gay?

Monta would be the trade.

Would be a dream come true to have Ellis and Gay at the same team which is championship quality
Not sure if sarcasm? Having those two on the same team would be a disaster :-X
Larry Bird be like: "If we put seven 20ppg scorers together, we'll average 140 points!"
They are my 2 favourite players in the NBA that is all

My Chumps

Quote from: valkorum on July 04, 2016, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on July 04, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
Same applies for Gay, but he's never played with a superstar like George. He could potentially be more effective at playing the second option.

DMC isn't a superstar?  Please
Fair point, I guess I was thinking of a ball dominant scorer/shot maker, rather than a post up big man. Tbh tho I think I watched the Kings twice this season so I'm talking out my ass in regards to his role :-[  just past knowledge of the type of dude he is.

plumdog millionaire

Apparently Monta was Vivek's favourite Warrior when he used to be a minority owner there. Only a matter of time until they trade for him!