Jump on Hopper At All?

Started by fanTCfool, May 15, 2016, 03:34:57 PM

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enzedder

Quote from: Grufflez on May 23, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Nope, to expensive for me and his incredible first game only netted him 106 SC i like more points from 32 touches 17 contested, 9 clearances,7 inside 50's 5 marks ect.
74 is what happens when he has a normal game.

Mathieson scoring 50's and 60's will make the same money as hopper scoring 70-90's
Maths for me too. The numbers have it. Hopper is too expensive.

Bully

Quote from: Grufflez on May 23, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Nope, to expensive for me and his incredible first game only netted him 106 SC i like more points from 32 touches 17 contested, 9 clearances,7 inside 50's 5 marks ect.
74 is what happens when he has a normal game.

Mathieson scoring 50's and 60's will make the same money as hopper scoring 70-90's

Very few good rookies on the horizon, this is even more important with the byes coming up. Grab them now while you can, in the end Hopper should make 150-200k.

Goosey

Who has the better JS? Who will put up the better scores? Cash generation is a big part of the decision, but we need good rookies to score well too as most of the time they are needed on field. I'll pay a bit more if the rookie will churn out higher scores, especially if in the end they both generate the same cash profit.

Bones Bombers

Quote from: Bully on May 23, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on May 23, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Nope, to expensive for me and his incredible first game only netted him 106 SC i like more points from 32 touches 17 contested, 9 clearances,7 inside 50's 5 marks ect.
74 is what happens when he has a normal game.

Mathieson scoring 50's and 60's will make the same money as hopper scoring 70-90's

Very few good rookies on the horizon, this is even more important with the byes coming up. Grab them now while you can, in the end Hopper should make 150-200k.
It would be really nice if Hopper could make $150-200K but probably not likely when you look at others around that starting price.
Mills' top price was $335K currently $311K.
Oliver's top price is his current price $310K.
Parish's top price was $331K currently $329K.
Weitering did get to $363K which is close.
So more likely to make $100-150K.

Not sure yet. I may still take him!

sammy123

i have passed on hopper. the rookies im trading don't net me enough profit

Grufflez

Quote from: Bully on May 23, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on May 23, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Nope, to expensive for me and his incredible first game only netted him 106 SC i like more points from 32 touches 17 contested, 9 clearances,7 inside 50's 5 marks ect.
74 is what happens when he has a normal game.

Mathieson scoring 50's and 60's will make the same money as hopper scoring 70-90's

Very few good rookies on the horizon, this is even more important with the byes coming up. Grab them now while you can, in the end Hopper should make 150-200k.

Parish and Mills should be a lesson, more like 120-150k

if every second score hopper has is a ton with 70's between then he might make 200k. just look at Libbas scoring/price increases.

RaisyDaisy

Yeah don't bank on 150-200k from Hopper

Not really fussed about how much he makes. It's his ability to score and JS that attracts me to him, but like Grufflez said 106 for what he did is pretty poor

If anything, it's just the fact that I'd rather field him over any other rookie in that spot at the moment that attracts me to him, but I've got Kedge, Tracca who can go there so he is by no means a must for me

That being said I'm not sure I'll get him just yet - need to figure out what my plan is first

tommy10

I'm so undecided with him. If I get him then he's my M8 for now and I lose dpp. But I can get Priddis for Bennedy.

Bully

Quote from: Grufflez on May 23, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 23, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: Grufflez on May 23, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
Nope, to expensive for me and his incredible first game only netted him 106 SC i like more points from 32 touches 17 contested, 9 clearances,7 inside 50's 5 marks ect.
74 is what happens when he has a normal game.

Mathieson scoring 50's and 60's will make the same money as hopper scoring 70-90's

Very few good rookies on the horizon, this is even more important with the byes coming up. Grab them now while you can, in the end Hopper should make 150-200k.

Parish and Mills should be a lesson, more like 120-150k

if every second score hopper has is a ton with 70's between then he might make 200k. just look at Libbas scoring/price increases.

So you're suggesting he won't get to 343k? I'd be pretty certain he'll achieve that and probably more. Based on a 90 average he'll get there in three price rises (see Footywire). The difference between Hopper and Mills is he's playing as an onballer, he's also more of a contested player than Parish. After Mathieson is on the bubble there's absolutely nothing in the way rookies, maybe Marcon but he seems out of favour with Hardwick.

Whoever is on your bench at the moment will need to be played for 2 weeks, this should be foremost on everyone's mind. No point downgrading to a cheapo who won't get games.

RaisyDaisy

Lol Bully always getting carried away with your expectations - once you pick someone they're the best and you convince yourself :P

90 average is extremely wishful. Not saying it's impossible but you talk like it's a lock

Jack Trengove not far away at all and he could be that solid bench option we need

Hopper might be on ball as opposed to Mills, but Hopper has a shower load of gun mids ahead of him to compete with

Judd Magic

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 23, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Lol Bully always getting carried away with your expectations - once you pick someone they're the best and you convince yourself :P

90 average is extremely wishful. Not saying it's impossible but you talk like it's a lock

Jack Trengove not far away at all and he could be that solid bench option we need

Hopper might be on ball as opposed to Mills, but Hopper has a shower load of gun mids ahead of him to compete with

So what are you saying RD?

Get Mathieson over Hopper?  :-\

FYI my M8 is Josh Smith ATM.

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 23, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Lol Bully always getting carried away with your expectations - once you pick someone they're the best and you convince yourself :P

90 average is extremely wishful. Not saying it's impossible but you talk like it's a lock

Jack Trengove not far away at all and he could be that solid bench option we need

Hopper might be on ball as opposed to Mills, but Hopper has a shower load of gun mids ahead of him to compete with

Not getting carried away at all, just stating the facts. He will be culled in round 15, that's actually five price rises. He should make 50k next week at the very least. I wouldn't be relying on Trengove to be the saving grace either, he's missed a two years of football and is playing for a club with a history of resting.

Before you go shouting me down for stating my opinion, have a good look at your bench and ask yourself just how well you expect to go over the bye period. You have three weeks to get your house in order.

Torpedo10

It's a matter of whether you think he will hit the ton again before Rd15.

If he does, he is a lock. If not, probably isn't worth the price. That said, who do you downgrade? Davis and make 5k? Kennedy, who is still scoring well and lose DPP?

It's a Tight decision, but if Gaz & Pridda are still out then it might be worthwhile locking him in.

fanTCfool

GWS have a tough few weeks coming up, Crows, Cats and Swans, before the Bombers and Blues just before the bye.
If he can survive the next three, he has a really good chance to ton up in either of those last two games.

PICCOLLO

I think you're paying the premium for him to get some decent scores through the byes. Only rookie I can see capable of regular 80+ scores at his current price point.