The 30 second shot clock being shown at the ground

[PowerBug]

So they have this at almost every AFL ground for this season. I noticed in Round 1 and 3 players would just do their normal thing, but last night at Port vs Geelong I don't think a single player started their run up before the shot clock was in single digits, so players I feel are using the clock more now. Also had some Geelong players in the 3rd/last take marks 55/60 out and say they were shooting which saw the clock go up and thus they were able to wait, and then kick it short in the end. We also saw Ben Brown against Freo really wait until the clock ran out before starting his run up.


So, what do people think? Is it a good idea or not?

[RaisyDaisy]

I don't really thinking it's changing anything - well maybe but not significant enough for it to be a problem

Players can now see the clock, but they've always got the 15 second warning from umps anyway and players will always milk the clock if and when they need to. Fair play I reckon

[Ringo]

Can not really comment as shot clock is not in operation at Gabba.  From what I have seen on TV umpires still give the 15 second warning which they did last yearin my opinion no real difference this year as last year they were taking most of the time available as well.  Remember the 30 second rule was in place the only difference is the shot clock comes in to play.

Strategy may come into play as the example you gave of player saying he is taking shot for goal and the going short. But that can be easily overcome by giving a penalty if shot not actually taken.

[Dave085]

I didn't notice that with Brown, but if players are doing this then umpires need to be all over it. If it continues then  maybe introduce a team shot clock of 1 minute or so? ie. If a player is shooting from outside 50 a team shot clock of 1 minute commences as well as his 30 second individual clock.
If the player decides to pass then the team must shoot for goal within that 1 minute otherwise the ball is turned over.

As far as the 15 second warning the umps give. Most of the time the players commence their run up immediately after that warning which I think is sufficient. Get rid of the clock.

[PowerBug]

Time to resurface this I reckon. Bit more has happened since.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-18/countdown-clock-here-to-stay-afl-consults-clubs-and-fans

THE AFL appears set to keep the controversial set shot countdown clock for the rest of the season but will not use it in the last two minutes of each quarter.

Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 11m11 minutes ago
A player staring at screen, and clearly not setting up 4 shot, just like Wood, will be called to play on outside last 2 min @7NewsMelbourne



THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! What the hell was going on when they made this??? EVERY SINGLE WEEK we as supporters complain about umpires, about how they interpret the rules terribly (We know they try their best) at times, but part of that problem is because they have TOO MUCH TO DEAL WITH. There's too many interpretation rules out there; Prior opportunity, deliberate out of bounds, running too close to the player that took a mark etc. We finally introduced a rule which eliminated umpire interpretation. They no longer had to count to 30 (even though they were probably being counted to by the upstairs umpire in their ear) as there was a proper system in place to do so. Now they are complicating things even further by removing it late in quarters, and not letting players use their full 30 seconds if it looks like they are wasting time. Clock management is part of every single sport in the world, the displayed shot clock was a great introduction, the new change to it is a disaster, let's make things more difficult for our umpires because it's not difficult enough already...

[Rusty00]

What about if a teammate watches the clock and counts it down for the player having the set shot? Is that allowed? :P

[GoLions]

What about if a teammate watches the clock and counts it down for the player having the set shot? Is that allowed? :P

Haha, love me some loopholes

[Big Mac]

I honestly can't see how it is a problem in the first place. You're entitled to those 30 seconds, you can do whatever you want.

[Jay]

I honestly can't see how it is a problem in the first place. You're entitled to those 30 seconds, you can do whatever you want.

This. Just standing there and waiting is no different to having a 5 minute goal-kicking routine e.g. Lloyd

[Holz]

I honestly can't see how it is a problem in the first place. You're entitled to those 30 seconds, you can do whatever you want.

This. Just standing there and waiting is no different to having a 5 minute goal-kicking routine e.g. Lloyd

The runner was right next to Mason Wood, its not like if there was no clock he would rush a kick. He knew there was much time left and he needed time to set up for the shot anyway.

players can count 30 in their head if they want, its a nothing rule.

but if mason had of looked at the clock got tackled for holding the ball then they ran the field and scored then watch the uprising.