Round 5 - Hawthorn v Adelaide - Friday 22nd April 7:50pm - MCG

[fanTCfool]

Isaac Smith might still be holding the ball

He just stood there like a frozen fish fillet

LOL relax, he received the ball when there was only 2 seconds left on the clock - can't be pinged

So he didn't just stand there and make no real attempt? I must have been watching a different game.
AFL players need less than a second to dispose of the ball, 2 and bit seconds is more than time enough.

[RaisyDaisy]

There wasn't 5 seconds left - there was 2

Nobody is getting pinged for not getting rid of it within 2 seconds. It's not enough time to ping them

If there was 5 seconds left when he got it fair enough, but there was 2

[Mr.Craig]

Don't take your chances, don't win.

[fanTCfool]

There wasn't 5 seconds left - there was 2

Nobody is getting pinged for not getting rid of it within 2 seconds. It's not enough time to ping them

If there was 5 seconds left when he got it fair enough, but there was 2

You give a bloke 5 seconds to get rid of the ball? Trent McKenize kicks the ball 80m in 3 seconds.
It's more than enough time.

[Ricochet]

Probably was holding the ball, but really it was Brodie Smith that cost Crows the game with that clanger.

[TomK]

Probably was holding the ball, but really it was Brodie Smith that cost Crows the game with that clanger.

Was a shocking turnover, hit the target there and we probably hold on.

[Jukes]

As an umpire and hawks hater - right call with not penalising Smith at the end imo

Hawks deserved winners

[Mr.Craig]

The poster didn't help.

[RaisyDaisy]

There wasn't 5 seconds left - there was 2

Nobody is getting pinged for not getting rid of it within 2 seconds. It's not enough time to ping them

If there was 5 seconds left when he got it fair enough, but there was 2

You give a bloke 5 seconds to get rid of the ball? Trent McKenize kicks the ball 80m in 3 seconds.
It's more than enough time.

What? Who said I give them 5 seconds? You're gone before 5, but 2 seconds is not enough time

Watch the replay, and when you see that the ball lands in Smith's hands with 2 seconds left on the clock - if you think he can be pinged from that moment to the siren, then there's no point discussing this further because you're clearly influenced by the result and not looking at it without bias

Even as I post this all the blokes on Fox are discussing this and all agree it's not holding the ball

Anyway, that's enough for me

Cracking match

[Jay]

Probably was holding the ball, but really it was Brodie Smith that cost Crows the game with that clanger.

Yeah that was bad. Could also complain about the free against Tex where he "took his eyes off the ball when he made contact" - that was worse than the holding the ball non-call. Not allowed to make a contest?

[fanTCfool]

Probably was holding the ball, but really it was Brodie Smith that cost Crows the game with that clanger.

Yeah that was bad. Could also complain about the free against Tex where he "took his eyes off the ball when he made contact" - that was worse than the holding the ball non-call. Not allowed to make a contest?

Tex looked to see where his man was, then looked back at the ball and contested, surely that's safer for the opponent than barrelling him without looking? No free there.

[Ringo]

Probably was holding the ball, but really it was Brodie Smith that cost Crows the game with that clanger.

Yeah that was bad. Could also complain about the free against Tex where he "took his eyes off the ball when he made contact" - that was worse than the holding the ball non-call. Not allowed to make a contest?

Tex looked to see where his man was, then looked back at the ball and contested, surely that's safer for the opponent than barrelling him without looking? No free there.

From an independent advisor all the 50/50 calls seemed to go the hawks way.  There were a couple late in the first half that allowed Hawks to get back into the game. Point is they all seem to be at critical stages of the game and allowed hawks to gain some momentum. 

And RD interesting that Fox said was not HTB but 7 commentators said it was again showing differing opinions.,  If you look at the footage Smith made absolutely no attempt to get rid of the ball even his fake handball gesture was well away from the ball.   My basic argument if umpires can call a HTB at first bounce (which we do see) then surely they can call it in the final seconds.

[JBs-Hawks]

Theres no neutral unbiased independent advisors when the Hawks are involved  :P

[Rusty00]

Theres no neutral unbiased independent advisors when the Hawks are involved  :P

Exactly. It's one of the enjoyable aspects after another Hawks win is seeing everyone try to justify how the umpires won it for us ::)

Then again it's always the same people who whinge about the umpires every week whether it's the Hawks or their own team playing ;)

[fanTCfool]

Theres no neutral unbiased independent advisors when the Hawks are involved  :P

Exactly. It's one of the enjoyable aspects after another Hawks win is seeing everyone try to justify how the umpires won it for us ::)

Then again it's always the same people who whinge about the umpires every week whether it's the Hawks or their own team playing ;)

Because you two present no bias on the issue either  ::)

Decisions and non-decisions have significantly impacted the result of three Hawthorn games in a row, statistically it should go the other way occasionally.