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Started by _wato, April 20, 2016, 01:24:25 AM

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ants

 i tend to jump on premos when they are not scoring so well! that way your team at the end is far superior to those who pay top dollar for premiums! the simple buy low sell high principle! thats what makes murphy so tempting!
Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2016, 01:48:19 AM
Quote from: blue on April 27, 2016, 09:32:24 PM
I'm on at 440k can't go wrong. Allows me to trade rocky in next week and saves me a trade

Rocky for me next week and Gray the week after, all should be at rock bottom levels. That will round out the midfield for the time being, will look at getting a top line player when it becomes apparent who will be a top 8 mid.
when a top line player becomes apparent is not when you get them is my opinion!

Holz

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if rookies are hard to come by in the next few weeks might be tempted to get murph could be a straight sideways from m crouch!

Reckon everyone will need a premo on the mid bench this year. Loopholing two 105 avg players can also be a good strategy, Murphy has a very high ceiling.

I would rather have a F/M or D/M at m9 so no murphy

Reckon you'll be hard pressed finding one for 440k who can average 105.

I reckon you will struggle to field murphy in the backline or forward line.

Gunny at 435k represents value.
Houli at 470K

Houli is in for a down year, that has been his pattern for 5 years and I didn't realise Gunston could play in the mids.

Sounds like you could have done with a guy like Aaron Hall.  ;)

Heres a tip if i have gunston at f7 and i have a mid missing i switch a F/M premo into the mids and then play gubston on ground.

Hence gunston is covering 2 lines.

Ill back gunston in at 440 over hall.

Who i really could have used is matt wright at 300k

ants

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Quote from: ants on April 27, 2016, 04:23:34 PM
if rookies are hard to come by in the next few weeks might be tempted to get murph could be a straight sideways from m crouch!

Reckon everyone will need a premo on the mid bench this year. Loopholing two 105 avg players can also be a good strategy, Murphy has a very high ceiling.

I would rather have a F/M or D/M at m9 so no murphy

Reckon you'll be hard pressed finding one for 440k who can average 105.

I reckon you will struggle to field murphy in the backline or forward line.

Gunny at 435k represents value.
Houli at 470K

Houli is in for a down year, that has been his pattern for 5 years and I didn't realise Gunston could play in the mids.

Sounds like you could have done with a guy like Aaron Hall.  ;)

Heres a tip if i have gunston at f7 and i have a mid missing i switch a F/M premo into the mids and then play gubston on ground.

Hence gunston is covering 2 lines.

Ill back gunston in at 440 over hall.

Who i really could have used is matt wright at 300k
i think hall is a far better option than gunston! agree with wright ! wish i picked him instead of the pathetic mid pricers i chose!

Holz

Quote from: ants on April 28, 2016, 10:18:28 AM
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Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 27, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: ants on April 27, 2016, 04:23:34 PM
if rookies are hard to come by in the next few weeks might be tempted to get murph could be a straight sideways from m crouch!

Reckon everyone will need a premo on the mid bench this year. Loopholing two 105 avg players can also be a good strategy, Murphy has a very high ceiling.

I would rather have a F/M or D/M at m9 so no murphy

Reckon you'll be hard pressed finding one for 440k who can average 105.

I reckon you will struggle to field murphy in the backline or forward line.

Gunny at 435k represents value.
Houli at 470K

Houli is in for a down year, that has been his pattern for 5 years and I didn't realise Gunston could play in the mids.

Sounds like you could have done with a guy like Aaron Hall.  ;)

Heres a tip if i have gunston at f7 and i have a mid missing i switch a F/M premo into the mids and then play gubston on ground.

Hence gunston is covering 2 lines.

Ill back gunston in at 440 over hall.

Who i really could have used is matt wright at 300k
i think hall is a far better option than gunston! agree with wright ! wish i picked him instead of the pathetic mid pricers i chose!
hall is over 500k

the question is gunston v murphy at the same price. gunston is a better fwd then murphy is a mid hence dont go murphy.

for the record ill take gunny.

ants

Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
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Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 27, 2016, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 27, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: ants on April 27, 2016, 04:23:34 PM
if rookies are hard to come by in the next few weeks might be tempted to get murph could be a straight sideways from m crouch!

Reckon everyone will need a premo on the mid bench this year. Loopholing two 105 avg players can also be a good strategy, Murphy has a very high ceiling.

I would rather have a F/M or D/M at m9 so no murphy

Reckon you'll be hard pressed finding one for 440k who can average 105.

I reckon you will struggle to field murphy in the backline or forward line.

Gunny at 435k represents value.
Houli at 470K

Houli is in for a down year, that has been his pattern for 5 years and I didn't realise Gunston could play in the mids.

Sounds like you could have done with a guy like Aaron Hall.  ;)

Heres a tip if i have gunston at f7 and i have a mid missing i switch a F/M premo into the mids and then play gubston on ground.

Hence gunston is covering 2 lines.

Ill back gunston in at 440 over hall.

Who i really could have used is matt wright at 300k
i think hall is a far better option than gunston! agree with wright ! wish i picked him instead of the pathetic mid pricers i chose!
hall is over 500k

the question is gunston v murphy at the same price. gunston is a better fwd then murphy is a mid hence dont go murphy.

for the record ill take gunny.
had to think about this one! murphy isnt a top mid and gunston isnt a top fwd so its a swing bench option decision for the end of the year! murphy will outscore gunston for the remainder of the year so i think murphy is the better option especially if you pick him up next week with the 38 still in his rolling average

Bully

Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
Quote from: ants on April 28, 2016, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 27, 2016, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 27, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 27, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: ants on April 27, 2016, 04:23:34 PM
if rookies are hard to come by in the next few weeks might be tempted to get murph could be a straight sideways from m crouch!

Reckon everyone will need a premo on the mid bench this year. Loopholing two 105 avg players can also be a good strategy, Murphy has a very high ceiling.

I would rather have a F/M or D/M at m9 so no murphy

Reckon you'll be hard pressed finding one for 440k who can average 105.

I reckon you will struggle to field murphy in the backline or forward line.

Gunny at 435k represents value.
Houli at 470K

Houli is in for a down year, that has been his pattern for 5 years and I didn't realise Gunston could play in the mids.

Sounds like you could have done with a guy like Aaron Hall.  ;)

Heres a tip if i have gunston at f7 and i have a mid missing i switch a F/M premo into the mids and then play gubston on ground.

Hence gunston is covering 2 lines.

Ill back gunston in at 440 over hall.

Who i really could have used is matt wright at 300k
i think hall is a far better option than gunston! agree with wright ! wish i picked him instead of the pathetic mid pricers i chose!
hall is over 500k

the question is gunston v murphy at the same price. gunston is a better fwd then murphy is a mid hence dont go murphy.

for the record ill take gunny.

Murphy at M9 is more useful than Gunston at F7, firstly there are no decent rookies on the bench these days whilst the standard picks up in the forward line. Secondly, Murphy has a high standard deviation so can be looped with Libba, with three bench options in the mids, having a non player is far safer and often a very sound strategy. Thirdly, Murphy averaged 111 post byes last year and he's a former 110+ player. For 440k the downside is minimal. On top of that I can get Shaw this week so it makes perfect sense.

_wato

Gunston more valuable actually.

Scenario - have Murphy

Mid goes down, play Murph at M8, all good. Forward goes down, have F7 who could well be a rookie who takes the score - can't do a fwd/mid dpp as most teams will not have a FWD/MID dpp in their midfield (all pure midfielders) allowing the switch to happen.

Scenario - have Gunston

Mid goes down, have a fwd/mid dpp in the mids, swap Barlow/Dusty etc into mids, move Gunston to F6
Forward goes down, sub Gunston to F6

Therefore, GUNston covering two lines as opposed to MM's one

Holz

Quote from: ants on April 28, 2016, 10:42:41 AM
had to think about this one! murphy isnt a top mid and gunston isnt a top fwd so its a swing bench option decision for the end of the year! murphy will outscore gunston for the remainder of the year so i think murphy is the better option especially if you pick him up next week with the 38 still in his rolling average

why inst gunston a top forward?

he averaged 97 last year. which ioncludned a month he played with a broken hand take that out and he averaged 103 the rest of the year.

he averaged 90 the year before as a 23 year old.

At worst i reckon he is a 90 average forward which isnt that far off a super premo fwd. At best he could be a top 6 forward.

murphy at worst is 95-100 which is a long way off a premo mid. at best 110 which isnt close to top 6.


Bully

Quote from: _wato on April 28, 2016, 12:01:41 PM
Gunston more valuable actually.

Scenario - have Murphy

Mid goes down, play Murph at M8, all good. Forward goes down, have F7 who could well be a rookie who takes the score - can't do a fwd/mid dpp as most teams will not have a FWD/MID dpp in their midfield (all pure midfielders) allowing the switch to happen.

Scenario - have Gunston

Mid goes down, have a fwd/mid dpp in the mids, swap Barlow/Dusty etc into mids, move Gunston to F6
Forward goes down, sub Gunston to F6

Therefore, GUNston covering two lines as opposed to MM's one

Would rather have a player to loop in the mids but that's just me. Reckon the forward rookies are vastly superior to the mid rookies as well.

Holz

Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2016, 11:08:47 AM

Murphy at M9 is more useful than Gunston at F7,

firstly there are no decent rookies on the bench these days whilst the standard picks up in the forward line.

Secondly, Murphy has a high standard deviation so can be looped with Libba, with three bench options in the mids, having a non player is far safer and often a very sound strategy.

Thirdly, Murphy averaged 111 post byes last year and he's a former 110+ player. For 440k the downside is minimal. On top of that I can get Shaw this week so it makes perfect sense.

1. yes the forward rookies are better but im rating mills. at m8 for now.

2. not sure murphy has a higher standard deviation last year Murphy 5 highest scorer where 151 130 123 117 114
Gunston 5 highest scores where 165 149 135 121 117 so for loophole Gunston is actually better. makes sense as he is a forward so if he kicks a bag he goes huge.

3. Gunston barring injury went 103 which actually puts him as an elite forward. Even including the injury he was basically a forward keeper. Murphs back end of the season going 110 is still not great for a mid its good but not great so ill take 97 from a whole year being a premo forward over 110 from a sgement being an almost premo mid.

GoLions

Tbh I'll probably be looking at both Murphy and GUNston haha, because why the flower not :P

Holz

Quote from: GoLions on April 28, 2016, 01:25:25 PM
Tbh I'll probably be looking at both Murphy and GUNston haha, because why the flower not :P

theres always that.

personally im bringing in the best of the best as thats my strat. I dont mind paying more

Pendles and Shaw this week and ill probably take Dusty over Gunny. Will seriously look at gunny if he goes 100+ this week.


WizzFizz

Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2016, 11:08:47 AM

Murphy at M9 is more useful than Gunston at F7,

firstly there are no decent rookies on the bench these days whilst the standard picks up in the forward line.

Secondly, Murphy has a high standard deviation so can be looped with Libba, with three bench options in the mids, having a non player is far safer and often a very sound strategy.

Thirdly, Murphy averaged 111 post byes last year and he's a former 110+ player. For 440k the downside is minimal. On top of that I can get Shaw this week so it makes perfect sense.

1. yes the forward rookies are better but im rating mills. at m8 for now.

2. not sure murphy has a higher standard deviation last year Murphy 5 highest scorer where 151 130 123 117 114
Gunston 5 highest scores where 165 149 135 121 117 so for loophole Gunston is actually better. makes sense as he is a forward so if he kicks a bag he goes huge.

3. Gunston barring injury went 103 which actually puts him as an elite forward. Even including the injury he was basically a forward keeper. Murphs back end of the season going 110 is still not great for a mid its good but not great so ill take 97 from a whole year being a premo forward over 110 from a sgement being an almost premo mid.

is it even worth getting gunston if he continues to pump out  50s and 70s??

Holz

Quote from: WizzFizz on April 28, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 28, 2016, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 28, 2016, 11:08:47 AM

Murphy at M9 is more useful than Gunston at F7,

firstly there are no decent rookies on the bench these days whilst the standard picks up in the forward line.

Secondly, Murphy has a high standard deviation so can be looped with Libba, with three bench options in the mids, having a non player is far safer and often a very sound strategy.

Thirdly, Murphy averaged 111 post byes last year and he's a former 110+ player. For 440k the downside is minimal. On top of that I can get Shaw this week so it makes perfect sense.

1. yes the forward rookies are better but im rating mills. at m8 for now.

2. not sure murphy has a higher standard deviation last year Murphy 5 highest scorer where 151 130 123 117 114
Gunston 5 highest scores where 165 149 135 121 117 so for loophole Gunston is actually better. makes sense as he is a forward so if he kicks a bag he goes huge.

3. Gunston barring injury went 103 which actually puts him as an elite forward. Even including the injury he was basically a forward keeper. Murphs back end of the season going 110 is still not great for a mid its good but not great so ill take 97 from a whole year being a premo forward over 110 from a sgement being an almost premo mid.

is it even worth getting gunston if he continues to pump out  50s and 70s??

no but historically he wont do that. just depends if roughy out is hurting him which it didnt appear to do so with 127 93 round 1 and 2.

Gunny normally gets 15-20 touches a game he got 8 on the weekend just had a shocker add to that he had poor effeceiny.

You obvisouly wait a week due to large BE and see how he goes after next week he has Richmond Freo Sydney Lions Dees Essendon i imagine he would go very well excluding the sydney game.

hawks have had a super tough draw 

TomK

Weitering to him will cost like 70k next week? Very tempting, have Brodie Smith in the mids so would be an easy swap.