Barlow

[tor01doc]

Ross Lyon on Michael Barlow: "He's under consideration. He performed quite well. Not at his brilliant best but he was working."

Yeah not brownlow form. Geez ross your last, you should take anything

Ross Lyon was heard to say, 'The only thing I want Holz, is the number one draft pick.'  :P

[tor01doc]

Oh and also Ross said, 'FYSC Holz.'  ;)

[Holz]

Oh and also Ross said, 'FYSC Holz.'  ;)

I would say drop the other fantasy relevant players but there isnt. If they do drop barlow then im going hard and going barlow to dochers and gaz to sloane.

[Jimmykidd]

not at his brilliant best? lmao ross pls

[Holz]

not at his brilliant best? lmao ross pls

I think its fair to say freo isnt at thier brilliant best. Maybe the coach should get dropped :P

or he could just leave and go to another team before it falls apart.

[Sabretooth Tigers]

Oh and also Ross said, 'FYSC Holz.'  ;)

I would say drop the other fantasy relevant players but there isnt. If they do drop barlow then im going hard and going barlow to dochers and gaz to sloane.

Have gone Gazz to Sloane, and this time the trigger is pulled. Would like nothing better to see Gazz have a bit of time off and come back to almost his brilliant best. So what's a double trade in a season like this ??             ;)

[Holz]

Oh and also Ross said, 'FYSC Holz.'  ;)

I would say drop the other fantasy relevant players but there isnt. If they do drop barlow then im going hard and going barlow to dochers and gaz to sloane.

Have gone Gazz to Sloane, and this time the trigger is pulled. Would like nothing better to see Gazz have a bit of time off and come back to almost his brilliant best. So what's a double trade in a season like this ??             ;)

I want to do this, it is only makes sense if barlow is out aswell.

[elephants]

Lets try and look at it from Ross' perspective for a moment.

He's got a side that is realistically heading for a rebuild, Barlow is getting toward the 30 mark. Sure senior players are important in rebuilds but they need to provide something beneficial to the long-term.

Barlow is not great by foot and he's not at all quick. This means, unless he's got amazing leadership skills or on-field vocal directive ability he's taking the spot of a younger player they could be developing.

From a football perspective, I can see why he's on the outer.

Furthermore I can see why Ross would say his WAFL stats don't mean he's an auto recall. He got 39 disposals? Sick. So did Matt DeBoer. We all knew he could find the pill, thats why he's always been so fantasy relevant. The problem is, he needs to clean up his disposal and/or bring his inside game to another level to be a relevant player in Fremantle's system imo.

[MontyJnr]

Lets try and look at it from Ross' perspective for a moment.

He's got a side that is realistically heading for a rebuild, Barlow is getting toward the 30 mark. Sure senior players are important in rebuilds but they need to provide something beneficial to the long-term.

Barlow is not great by foot and he's not at all quick. This means, unless he's got amazing leadership skills or on-field vocal directive ability he's taking the spot of a younger player they could be developing.

From a football perspective, I can see why he's on the outer.

Furthermore I can see why Ross would say his WAFL stats don't mean he's an auto recall. He got 39 disposals? Sick. So did Matt DeBoer. We all knew he could find the pill, thats why he's always been so fantasy relevant. The problem is, he needs to clean up his disposal and/or bring his inside game to another level to be a relevant player in Fremantle's system imo.

They could potentially win their first game this week, but I feel like giving Connor Blakely a key midfield spot ahead of Barlow against Cotchin, Deledio, Martin & Miles doesn't really help their chances. You make good points, but tanking doesn't create successful culture. Just look at how it worked for Melbourne 7 years ago.

[elephants]

Lets try and look at it from Ross' perspective for a moment.

He's got a side that is realistically heading for a rebuild, Barlow is getting toward the 30 mark. Sure senior players are important in rebuilds but they need to provide something beneficial to the long-term.

Barlow is not great by foot and he's not at all quick. This means, unless he's got amazing leadership skills or on-field vocal directive ability he's taking the spot of a younger player they could be developing.

From a football perspective, I can see why he's on the outer.

Furthermore I can see why Ross would say his WAFL stats don't mean he's an auto recall. He got 39 disposals? Sick. So did Matt DeBoer. We all knew he could find the pill, thats why he's always been so fantasy relevant. The problem is, he needs to clean up his disposal and/or bring his inside game to another level to be a relevant player in Fremantle's system imo.

They could potentially win their first game this week, but I feel like giving Connor Blakely a key midfield spot ahead of Barlow against Cotchin, Deledio, Martin & Miles doesn't really help their chances. You make good points, but tanking doesn't create successful culture. Just look at how it worked for Melbourne 7 years ago.

I think there's a distinct difference between tanking - intentionally losing games for higher or more draft picks... and looking toward the future - playing kids with greater upside than senior players.

Its a valid point, Freo have a chance this week. Though Richmond have a pretty damn impressive record at Subi.

[Holz]

Lets try and look at it from Ross' perspective for a moment.

He's got a side that is realistically heading for a rebuild, Barlow is getting toward the 30 mark. Sure senior players are important in rebuilds but they need to provide something beneficial to the long-term.

Barlow is not great by foot and he's not at all quick. This means, unless he's got amazing leadership skills or on-field vocal directive ability he's taking the spot of a younger player they could be developing.

From a football perspective, I can see why he's on the outer.

Furthermore I can see why Ross would say his WAFL stats don't mean he's an auto recall. He got 39 disposals? Sick. So did Matt DeBoer. We all knew he could find the pill, thats why he's always been so fantasy relevant. The problem is, he needs to clean up his disposal and/or bring his inside game to another level to be a relevant player in Fremantle's system imo.

They could potentially win their first game this week, but I feel like giving Connor Blakely a key midfield spot ahead of Barlow against Cotchin, Deledio, Martin & Miles doesn't really help their chances. You make good points, but tanking doesn't create successful culture. Just look at how it worked for Melbourne 7 years ago.

I think there's a distinct difference between tanking - intentionally losing games for higher or more draft picks... and looking toward the future - playing kids with greater upside than senior players.

Its a valid point, Freo have a chance this week. Though Richmond have a pretty damn impressive record at Subi.

ok so he isnt in their long turn plans. What you should do is play him and keep his trade value up there. Everyteam now can see they can pick him up for free. i dont buy that he is too slow and not a talent any more.

you want to have a winning culture, you lose your best player for the year you keep a few older guys to keep the wins up while blodding younger players. No way anyone can convince me the freo is a better side without him. they were never going to win last week but they are a shot the next 5 weeks. barlow should play.

[elephants]

Lets try and look at it from Ross' perspective for a moment.

He's got a side that is realistically heading for a rebuild, Barlow is getting toward the 30 mark. Sure senior players are important in rebuilds but they need to provide something beneficial to the long-term.

Barlow is not great by foot and he's not at all quick. This means, unless he's got amazing leadership skills or on-field vocal directive ability he's taking the spot of a younger player they could be developing.

From a football perspective, I can see why he's on the outer.

Furthermore I can see why Ross would say his WAFL stats don't mean he's an auto recall. He got 39 disposals? Sick. So did Matt DeBoer. We all knew he could find the pill, thats why he's always been so fantasy relevant. The problem is, he needs to clean up his disposal and/or bring his inside game to another level to be a relevant player in Fremantle's system imo.

They could potentially win their first game this week, but I feel like giving Connor Blakely a key midfield spot ahead of Barlow against Cotchin, Deledio, Martin & Miles doesn't really help their chances. You make good points, but tanking doesn't create successful culture. Just look at how it worked for Melbourne 7 years ago.

I think there's a distinct difference between tanking - intentionally losing games for higher or more draft picks... and looking toward the future - playing kids with greater upside than senior players.

Its a valid point, Freo have a chance this week. Though Richmond have a pretty damn impressive record at Subi.

ok so he isnt in their long turn plans. What you should do is play him and keep his trade value up there. Everyteam now can see they can pick him up for free. i dont buy that he is too slow and not a talent any more.

you want to have a winning culture, you lose your best player for the year you keep a few older guys to keep the wins up while blodding younger players. No way anyone can convince me the freo is a better side without him. they were never going to win last week but they are a shot the next 5 weeks. barlow should play.

He's slow, thats undeniable. But his talent is largely in ball accumulation. All good sides need players that just constantly link up and find the footy. At the moment his deficiencies are outweighing his strengths. I hope for his sake he has a blinder this week.

Of course, and I expect he will play this week.

I'm purely outlining why people complaining about him being dropped and saying Ross Lyon has no clue are completely off the mark. Believe it or not, players can have a poor AFL game and still score well in fantasy!

[Slashers]

Did dropping Barlow give them any different a result...? Or even provide them with any benefits???...?

[elephants]

Did dropping Barlow give them any different a result...? Or even provide them with any benefits???...?

If you think Barlow playing would have changed the result I think you're high :P

Benefits? Well perhaps. Experience into the kids against some of the games best is pretty important. Lets not forget Freo led at halftime.

[Slashers]

All fair enough if he went back and did stuff all in the WAAFL.