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Started by supercoachhelp, April 02, 2016, 10:51:36 PM

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Hazza09

Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Grazz

Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.

Sabretooth Tigers

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Quote from: Grazz on May 13, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.
:)

Agree that Barlow is a one week wait and see. In reality for most of us this week there are more pressing decisions to make. The fact that he is not playing means there is no cash loss problem and makes it easier to put him on the back-burner for a week. For me this week seems to be  Keays in for Mills and then ?? ?? ??  Can either upgrade to finish either my fwd or mid line, or pass. My defence hasn't a real keeper yet and probably won't start on it until the other lines are finished. Unless a McVeigh or perhaps a Docherty or perhaps a Bartel (??) reach their cheapest ebb and demand immediate inclusion. Is Bartel at that point anybody please ?? ?? My highest ranking was 79,000 something, currently 31008 and I'm still going for it. Top 1000 is still a red hot goal and as ancient as they are, Sabretooth's NEVER  give up.  Cheers.        ;)

_wato

He's omitted ain't rested lolllll

Stupid to think otherwise

Hazza09

Quote from: Grazz on May 13, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.

Totally agree with your thinking Grazz!

My dilemma is slightly different, as you pointed out i have petracca, started with him from Rd1.
My 100% trade this week will be Mills - Keays gives me 270k in the bank with 21 trades reamining  :-\
Still have Oliver, Ben Ken, Hewitt, Davis, Menadue floating around which need to be upgraded eventually.
So in regards to Barlow my dilemma is do i keep him because of my team issues i currently have or do i just trade him based on all the outs i have in my team (Laird, Wells, Adams)

My trade options in order:

Oliver-Zorko (7k remaining)
Barlow-Whoever i want
Menadue-Gunston (60k remaining)

Don't know which way to go  ::)

_wato


jvalles69

Quote from: TomK on May 13, 2016, 03:42:25 PM
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Quote from: jvalles69 on May 13, 2016, 01:05:52 PM
I personally think he was dropped for a few reasons.

1)  Game is in Tasmania against Hawks - why take one of your oldest guys on the longest road trip, risk him getting injured against a game they are going to lose, let a youngster get an extra game in him and some travel time on the boards
2) Play him WAFL to get some form and confidence back

I think he'll be back next week better for the break and banging on a 100 average for the rest of the year.  Was unusual that the teams said omitted rather than rested, but I've come to the conclusion that if they said rested it would look dodgy that he was playing WAFL.  They call me the voice of reason.  ;)
Yeah, kind of agree.

If the team sheets said Pavlich, Barlow and Dawson all rested when they already have Fyfe, Sandilands, Johnson out, I reckon there would be questions coming from the AFL.
Why would they put him down as being rested when he isn't. He's been dropped, that's all it is. Gone!

Uh…because if they say he's rested they can't play him the WAFL…  ::)
He's not being rested though, if he was, why is he playing in the WAFL? That isn't a rest.

I stated the reasons why I think he's not playing this week, yes he's been omitted, but if they were a 50/50 to win then he'd play for sure. Again, he's not going to fly all the way to Tassie for no reason, plus he still gets to have a game on the weekend.
Okay, you've convinced me but if he isn't back next week, I'll blame you ;) :P

Yep I'll cop that, if Barlow ain't back next week, Lyon should be done for tanking.  What a joke!

Wanderer

Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: Grazz on May 13, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.

Totally agree with your thinking Grazz!

My dilemma is slightly different, as you pointed out i have petracca, started with him from Rd1.
My 100% trade this week will be Mills - Keays gives me 270k in the bank with 21 trades reamining  :-\
Still have Oliver, Ben Ken, Hewitt, Davis, Menadue floating around which need to be upgraded eventually.
So in regards to Barlow my dilemma is do i keep him because of my team issues i currently have or do i just trade him based on all the outs i have in my team (Laird, Wells, Adams)

My trade options in order:

Oliver-Zorko (7k remaining)
Barlow-Whoever i want
Menadue-Gunston (60k remaining)

Don't know which way to go  ::)

If I had the money to go Oliver - Zorko, I would do it in a heartbeat. I'm holding onto Barlow for a week.
The Gunston trade gives you more cash to play with, which could save you from having to make two trades to get rid of Barlow if he doesn't come back into team. If you really have your sights set on Gunston, then just get him and get Zorko later, but if Gunston and Zorko are fighting it out for last spot in your Fwds, then I would go Zorko.

Sabretooth Tigers

Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on May 13, 2016, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Grazz on May 13, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.
:)

Agree that Barlow is a one week wait and see. In reality for most of us this week there are more pressing decisions to make. The fact that he is not playing means there is no cash loss problem and makes it easier to put him on the back-burner for a week. For me this week seems to be  Keays in for Mills and then ?? ?? ??  Can either upgrade to finish either my fwd or mid line, or pass. My defence hasn't a real keeper yet and probably won't start on it until the other lines are finished. Unless a McVeigh or perhaps a Docherty or perhaps a Bartel (??) reach their cheapest ebb and demand immediate inclusion. Is Bartel at that point anybody please ?? ?? My highest ranking was 79,000 something, currently 31008 and I'm still going for it. Top 1000 is still a red hot goal and as ancient as they are, Sabretooth's NEVER  give up.  Cheers.        ;)

Sorry !! !! !!   Made the most basic of errors when making the above comments.

What you do this week can also be ordained by what you are planning for next week.  No point in holding Barlow unless you have no trade ambitions for next week, i.e  in McPherson  etc,  etc,  etc.

Grazz

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Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: Grazz on May 13, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.

Totally agree with your thinking Grazz!

My dilemma is slightly different, as you pointed out i have petracca, started with him from Rd1.
My 100% trade this week will be Mills - Keays gives me 270k in the bank with 21 trades reamining  :-\
Still have Oliver, Ben Ken, Hewitt, Davis, Menadue floating around which need to be upgraded eventually.
So in regards to Barlow my dilemma is do i keep him because of my team issues i currently have or do i just trade him based on all the outs i have in my team (Laird, Wells, Adams)

My trade options in order:

Oliver-Zorko (7k remaining)
Barlow-Whoever i want
Menadue-Gunston (60k remaining)

Don't know which way to go  ::)

With 21 trades left Barlow to whoever isn't that bad a move with 5 upgrades needed only.
Oliver has money in him still but sometimes going early means more points but lost coin, both are important but points rule the game. If you go Oliver to Zorks this week and Barlow comes back next your team is straightaway better off  for rnd 9 without making a trade.
Each team needs to be assessed individually as to what's best, what fits one wont always fit another perfectly this is where the decision comes in. Are you going to better off with the coin long term or are you going to be better off with the points.

Whichever way you go with 21 trades left I think you'll be ok but if I were you i'd look at holding Barlow and have a potentially better side next week without doing anything but putting Barlow back on the ground. Risk versus reward as usual.

By the way Zorks over Gunstan for mine.

Grazz

Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on May 13, 2016, 05:58:14 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on May 13, 2016, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: Grazz on May 13, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
Quote from: Hazza09 on May 13, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
Such a 50/50 opinion on keeping him or not.
One part of me says hold and hope he gets called up next week
The other part of me says trade....signs have been there from Rd 1-3  :-\

Yep very much a 50/50 decision, some of us will be right while some will be wrong. I don't know which group i'll fall into.
All one can do is take in all the info process it then make a gut call based on all that.
Personally I need more info and next week will give it to me ie he's back in or isn't, simple.
I want Petracca in this week so trading or holding Barlow makes no difference to the amount of prems I will have as the other trade this week is to a prem anyway.
Those that went early on Petracca and Keays or don't want Keays have a real dilema, maybe their best option is to trade Barlow depending on what their trades tally is so far.
At this minute there is no correct answer all a coach can do is what they think is the best thing for their team long term, it's a marathon not a sprint.
:)

Agree that Barlow is a one week wait and see. In reality for most of us this week there are more pressing decisions to make. The fact that he is not playing means there is no cash loss problem and makes it easier to put him on the back-burner for a week. For me this week seems to be  Keays in for Mills and then ?? ?? ??  Can either upgrade to finish either my fwd or mid line, or pass. My defence hasn't a real keeper yet and probably won't start on it until the other lines are finished. Unless a McVeigh or perhaps a Docherty or perhaps a Bartel (??) reach their cheapest ebb and demand immediate inclusion. Is Bartel at that point anybody please ?? ?? My highest ranking was 79,000 something, currently 31008 and I'm still going for it. Top 1000 is still a red hot goal and as ancient as they are, Sabretooth's NEVER  give up.  Cheers.        ;)

Sorry !! !! !!   Made the most basic of errors when making the above comments.

What you do this week can also be ordained by what you are planning for next week.  No point in holding Barlow unless you have no trade ambitions for next week, i.e  in McPherson  etc,  etc,  etc.

Yes good point which I failed to mention also but 100% correct.

tor01doc

I will hold and just hope like hell he plays and makes his BE (which is very possible) the following week

Judd Magic

I am really tempted to trade Barlow to MacPherson next week even if he does play so I can then go Parish to Pendles.

Will then still have $100,000 left over then for my next upgrade too.  :-\

jvalles69

I was wrong, there is 1 other outcome that stops Barlow from playing next week…Freo beat Hawks today.  :o

RaisyDaisy

24 possessions in the first half in the WAFL

Surely he is back next week