Barlow

[Judd Magic]

Is it worth trading Barlow now to Zac Merrett before its too late?  :-\

Just have enough cash to do it.

Its now or never!

Probably worth holding for now but definitely have him on notice. Have gone over all the numbers from last season and his finish to last year has convinced me to wait and see. One or two more dud weeks and he's out however.

I just know that if I keep S.Gray and Barlow this week and they both spud up while Z.Merrett kills it I will kick myself!

I cant figure out who is the worst out of S.Gray and Barlow I'm actually thinking S.Gray has more upside being younger and probably more opportunities to play in the midfield.  :-\

yeah mate, with you here... have both and both nightmares..

At least I don't feel so alone now. LOL!

Who do we cull first?

I'm kinda hoping Barlow doesn't make the cut from the extended bench so I will be forced to trade him to Z.Merrett.  ;D

[HotTiges]

Is it worth trading Barlow now to Zac Merrett before its too late?  :-\

Just have enough cash to do it.

Its now or never!

Probably worth holding for now but definitely have him on notice. Have gone over all the numbers from last season and his finish to last year has convinced me to wait and see. One or two more dud weeks and he's out however.

I just know that if I keep S.Gray and Barlow this week and they both spud up while Z.Merrett kills it I will kick myself!

I cant figure out who is the worst out of S.Gray and Barlow I'm actually thinking S.Gray has more upside being younger and probably more opportunities to play in the midfield.  :-\

yeah mate, with you here... have both and both nightmares..

At least I don't feel so alone now. LOL!

Who do we cull first?

I'm kinda hoping Barlow doesn't make the cut from the extended bench so I will be forced to trade him to Z.Merrett.  ;D

Honestly its a coin toss..no sandi surely doesn't help with clearences..sam gray seems more DT rather then SC...BarSLOW is just that...bloody slow

[Ingram]

I can go Barlow -> Zara. Should I?

[GCSkiwi]

not set in stone to get a game either, last on extended bench..not that it means too much

Nah, looking at that extended bench I can't see Barlow being cut. Griffin in for Sandi, Maybe Crozier for Mzungu? Apparently had 30 possies and 3 goals in WAFL... Hannath, Taberner and Tucker to be cut if you ask me. Though maybe they could bring in a tall to support Griffin?

[Holz]

Geez barlow is not getting cut unless he is injured.

[crowls]

Geez barlow is not getting cut unless he is injured.

Absolutely,  doesnt mean you cant think about it.  People wanting to cut him but not game and will if they have a reason.     


So Holz,  you seem to be keeping the faith with Barlow.   How do you see it working out?
1.   What will he average if he plays forward all year.   80/85/90/95?
2.   Why would Ross put him back in mids given Freo goal to change game tactics?
3.   Is his DE low because of contested possessions or due to lack of skills as well? If it is skill then he wont fit new game plan.


I keep coming back to the issue that his historical scoring capability is not likely to be achieved due to change in position, change in freo game structure.   


If we assume he can avg 85/90 is he worth keeping for that score?


Trade/reverse last week, traded this week for Brodie Smith but could reverse!,   Keep changing my mind.   In all honesty I was expecting Bartel to be a bigger issue than Barlow.   


Why should we keep him?.

[tor01doc]

Freo - premiership pretenders - are sitting 0 and 3 and play a rampant Kangaroos at Etihad this weekend.

Lyon needs to shake things up a bit to start winning. Need the ball to win. Mundy out. Barlow to mids and he'll make a difference and we will benefit.

Should average at least 90 so is it worth a trade based on this assumption? No is my answer.

Don't be profligate with your trades. This one people are considering using to burn Barlow is as valuable as your 30th trade.

[Jimmykidd]

im just gonna hold. overall is a distant dream now, too far behind. its all about leagues. hopefully he becomes a bit of a pod and can score 80+ every weekend.

and as for sam gray.. im holding him too. i cant help but feel these 2 trades should be done later on. building a warchest is priority one right now. we may have taken all these rookies for granted. already 2 dropped.

wish me luck  :'(

[crowls]

Freo - premiership pretenders - are sitting 0 and 3 and play a rampant Kangaroos at Etihad this weekend.

Lyon needs to shake things up a bit to start winning. Need the ball to win. Mundy out. Barlow to mids and he'll make a difference and we will benefit.

Should average at least 90 so is it worth a trade based on this assumption? No is my answer.

Don't be profligate with your trades. This one people are considering using to burn Barlow is as valuable as your 30th trade.

Good points doc and why I keep holding him.   But need to see him in the square.   If he doesnt make it this week he never will. Minor issue I do not trade him this week as far this weeks scores and games are concerned.   Will win my cash league anyway.   May make a difference in FF leagues though but prefer to focus on getting to <500 by season end.      Other reason for trading is being able to do it on my terms and not be blocked next week.      Barlow to Smith gives me another keeper for backline (kept the smith all last year and he will definitely do better than that (pending no concussions)  BUT it is sideways and uses a trade!!!!


Jeez the more I write the less clear it becomes it which case the STATUS QUO is best option as not using a trade.   Will probably reverse trade later today and look at it again tomorrow. :P

[Holz]

Geez barlow is not getting cut unless he is injured.

Absolutely,  doesnt mean you cant think about it.  People wanting to cut him but not game and will if they have a reason.     


So Holz,  you seem to be keeping the faith with Barlow.   How do you see it working out?
1.   What will he average if he plays forward all year.   80/85/90/95?
2.   Why would Ross put him back in mids given Freo goal to change game tactics?
3.   Is his DE low because of contested possessions or due to lack of skills as well? If it is skill then he wont fit new game plan.


I keep coming back to the issue that his historical scoring capability is not likely to be achieved due to change in position, change in freo game structure.   


If we assume he can avg 85/90 is he worth keeping for that score?


Trade/reverse last week, traded this week for Brodie Smith but could reverse!,   Keep changing my mind.   In all honesty I was expecting Bartel to be a bigger issue than Barlow.   


Why should we keep him?.

1. if he plays forward all year i would expect 80-85
2. he is completely ineffective in the forward line you would look to drop him if he could only play up front. The thing is he can play in the midfield and is good at it.
3. His low DE would be partly due to more pressure. when they improve (they have to surely) then it should go up.


Remember barlow can have quiet games.

last year barlow started 72 136 66 54 for a 83.25 average then went on to average 100 unsubbed for the year.

this year barlow is going 61 60 99 really its pretty similar.

[Jimmykidd]

Geez barlow is not getting cut unless he is injured.

Absolutely,  doesnt mean you cant think about it.  People wanting to cut him but not game and will if they have a reason.     


So Holz,  you seem to be keeping the faith with Barlow.   How do you see it working out?
1.   What will he average if he plays forward all year.   80/85/90/95?
2.   Why would Ross put him back in mids given Freo goal to change game tactics?
3.   Is his DE low because of contested possessions or due to lack of skills as well? If it is skill then he wont fit new game plan.


I keep coming back to the issue that his historical scoring capability is not likely to be achieved due to change in position, change in freo game structure.   


If we assume he can avg 85/90 is he worth keeping for that score?


Trade/reverse last week, traded this week for Brodie Smith but could reverse!,   Keep changing my mind.   In all honesty I was expecting Bartel to be a bigger issue than Barlow.   


Why should we keep him?.

1. if he plays forward all year i would expect 80-85
2. he is completely ineffective in the forward line you would look to drop him if he could only play up front. The thing is he can play in the midfield and is good at it.
3. His low DE would be partly due to more pressure. when they improve (they have to surely) then it should go up.


Remember barlow can have quiet games.

last year barlow started 72 136 66 54 for a 83.25 average then went on to average 100 unsubbed for the year.

this year barlow is going 61 60 99 really its pretty similar.

Good points.

There is a lot of pressure on Freo at the moment. And a lot on Barlow, too. Everyone seems to be talking about him. Even the media are having a crack haha.

I don't take what Damian Barrett says on board ever, he is the biggest flog going around, but he made an interesting comment in his 'Sliding Doors' article on the afl website..

"If you're Michael Barlow ...   then... you're probably thinking of that trade possibility six months ago"

[RaisyDaisy]

5 mins into the 2nd qtr and Barlow has 2 handballs..

I swear I'm going to run out of trades by rd12 at this rate. So many flowering problems to fix

[Ringo]

5 mins into the 2nd qtr and Barlow has 2 handballs..

I swear I'm going to run out of trades by rd12 at this rate. So many flowering problems to fix

If I had more than 2 trades a week I would be out very early due to the issues I have,

[Judd Magic]

I have Sam Gray and Barlow.

Thinking both have to go this week.

Might downgrade one of them to Ruggles/Byrne via Tippa DPP and upgrade the other to Zorko/Z.Merrett/Martin/Dollhouse.

Does this sound ok RD and others?  :-\

[Holz]

5 mins into the 2nd qtr and Barlow has 2 handballs..

I swear I'm going to run out of trades by rd12 at this rate. So many flowering problems to fix

give him a shot 38 at half time.

we bought him at a 93 average so he isnt too far off that.