Brown (ess) vs Petracca

Started by YoungGun, March 16, 2016, 01:52:40 PM

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YoungGun

Quote from: Keeper27 on March 16, 2016, 03:54:51 PM
Petracca most likely will outscore him but we dont even know if he will line up come Rnd 1, Brown is most likely to line up and stay in the team.

right now I am considering dropping brown to petracca assuming petracca comes in round 2 or 3 and in that time he is a great loophole for menadue and simpkin as I am a bit unconvinced on simpkin currently.

Holz has given me some more faith in Brown, but I still feel that (if petracca comes in early) have him is a better option than Brown/Tippa

not sure what I'll do. appreciate the debate lads

Keeper27

Everybody's picking him in the hope he pops up come rnd 2-3.
What if he doesn't?
What if you held off to after rnd 3?? Will you have enough coin to make the change to a bloke who's already got 1 price change??

piesfan1989

Quote from: Keeper27 on March 16, 2016, 07:54:26 PM
Everybody's picking him in the hope he pops up come rnd 2-3.
What if he doesn't?
What if you held off to after rnd 3?? Will you have enough coin to make the change to a bloke who's already got 1 price change??

Good point...he may even come in and score poorly? I'd prefer to start a rookie and have him make maybe 50k, then if petracca is killing it, I'd be happy to semi-waste a trade, net 50k and have a safer look at petracca. If he comes in and scores poorly, based on the break even of the rookie you had in r1, it might be more beneficial to hold off even after petracca has his first price rise.

Most people wouldn't be starting petracca on his first game back, so what's the point of having him in there for 2 loop holes? He'd have to have a massive first game back to put him ahead of kerridge/mills/oliver as well in terms of putting him on the field.

I think it's much safer to not start him, have a look and then bring him in after he gets through 2 games.

LordSneeze

Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 16, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on March 16, 2016, 07:54:26 PM
Everybody's picking him in the hope he pops up come rnd 2-3.
What if he doesn't?
What if you held off to after rnd 3?? Will you have enough coin to make the change to a bloke who's already got 1 price change??

Good point...he may even come in and score poorly? I'd prefer to start a rookie and have him make maybe 50k, then if petracca is killing it, I'd be happy to semi-waste a trade, net 50k and have a safer look at petracca. If he comes in and scores poorly, based on the break even of the rookie you had in r1, it might be more beneficial to hold off even after petracca has his first price rise.

Most people wouldn't be starting petracca on his first game back, so what's the point of having him in there for 2 loop holes? He'd have to have a massive first game back to put him ahead of kerridge/mills/oliver as well in terms of putting him on the field.

I think it's much safer to not start him, have a look and then bring him in after he gets through 2 games.

Not starting him also allows for a correctional downgrade trade if need be. A mid pricer is poor you can downgrade and save the cash losses.

Marstar

No different to picking N.Brown last year?

S ..... L ..... O ...... W ..... B ..... U ..... R ...... N

crowls

Quote from: LordSneeze on March 17, 2016, 01:49:19 AM
Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 16, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on March 16, 2016, 07:54:26 PM
Everybody's picking him in the hope he pops up come rnd 2-3.
What if he doesn't?
What if you held off to after rnd 3?? Will you have enough coin to make the change to a bloke who's already got 1 price change??

Good point...he may even come in and score poorly? I'd prefer to start a rookie and have him make maybe 50k, then if petracca is killing it, I'd be happy to semi-waste a trade, net 50k and have a safer look at petracca. If he comes in and scores poorly, based on the break even of the rookie you had in r1, it might be more beneficial to hold off even after petracca has his first price rise.

Most people wouldn't be starting petracca on his first game back, so what's the point of having him in there for 2 loop holes? He'd have to have a massive first game back to put him ahead of kerridge/mills/oliver as well in terms of putting him on the field.

I think it's much safer to not start him, have a look and then bring him in after he gets through 2 games.

Not starting him also allows for a correctional downgrade trade if need be. A mid pricer is poor you can downgrade and save the cash losses.
Why Brown and Petracca were both removed from my starting line up.

Holz

Quote from: Marstar on March 17, 2016, 03:04:40 AM
No different to picking N.Brown last year?

S ..... L ..... O ...... W ..... B ..... U ..... R ...... N

not a far comparison.

M.Brown is in a new team with extradoinary circumstances. plus 60 avergae in last 2 years unsubbed.

thats not the same as N.Brown

Marstar

Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: Marstar on March 17, 2016, 03:04:40 AM
No different to picking N.Brown last year?

S ..... L ..... O ...... W ..... B ..... U ..... R ...... N

not a far comparison.

M.Brown is in a new team with extradoinary circumstances. plus 60 avergae in last 2 years unsubbed.

thats not the same as N.Brown

:o

N.Brown averaged 57 unsubbed last year up to the bye when he was shipped.

M.Brown averaged 60 in about as many games over 4 years.

Both came/come with the promise for great JS.

Sorry, not seeing any material difference as a SC selection. 

M.Brown capable of burning a little quicker? Bonus.

Holz

Quote from: Marstar on March 18, 2016, 04:24:38 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: Marstar on March 17, 2016, 03:04:40 AM
No different to picking N.Brown last year?

S ..... L ..... O ...... W ..... B ..... U ..... R ...... N

not a far comparison.

M.Brown is in a new team with extradoinary circumstances. plus 60 avergae in last 2 years unsubbed.

thats not the same as N.Brown

:o

N.Brown averaged 57 unsubbed last year up to the bye when he was shipped.

M.Brown averaged 60 in about as many games over 4 years.

Both came/come with the promise for great JS.

Sorry, not seeing any material difference as a SC selection. 

M.Brown capable of burning a little quicker? Bonus.

I thought slowburn was used as a negative.

I think M.Brown with his huge S.D could make cash quickly if he puts together two big games. the difference in the two is Mitch can pull a 80+ game.

Marstar

Quote from: Holz on March 18, 2016, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Marstar on March 18, 2016, 04:24:38 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 17, 2016, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: Marstar on March 17, 2016, 03:04:40 AM
No different to picking N.Brown last year?

S ..... L ..... O ...... W ..... B ..... U ..... R ...... N

not a far comparison.

M.Brown is in a new team with extradoinary circumstances. plus 60 avergae in last 2 years unsubbed.

thats not the same as N.Brown

:o

N.Brown averaged 57 unsubbed last year up to the bye when he was shipped.

M.Brown averaged 60 in about as many games over 4 years.

Both came/come with the promise for great JS.

Sorry, not seeing any material difference as a SC selection. 

M.Brown capable of burning a little quicker? Bonus.

I thought slowburn was used as a negative.

I think M.Brown with his huge S.D could make cash quickly if he puts together two big games. the difference in the two is Mitch can pull a 80+ game.

N.Brown went 53, 34, (28 sub), 52, 85, 70 ... was not fat enough to cull cause of sub game ... 27, 55, 43, 79, 74 Bye Round ..... Chop.

N.Brown was a D8 at best last year with many avoiding him because he was such a low scoring prospect.

M.Brown might be our only reliable starting D ... so even if he scores better early at 65ave ... we have to hold longer to cover D7, due to slim rookie D pickings.