Petracca as a loophole option.

[enzedder]

Personally, i don't think you can start him, not only do you miss cash generation from someone who is playing, you miss a good downgrade option later when he does get to the bubble.

Not needing to downgrade = 1 saved trade.

Each trade has a value.

The cash generation needs to exceed the trade value.

Petracca playing b4 round 4 is better than 3 price rises on Dunkley IMO, and he's very likely to achieve than now.

Trades are gold and that is very much at the forefront of my thinking. I am also of the opinion that there is less risk starting Petracca over a R1 playing rookie with poor JS. If I miss out on say McGovern or Hewett then I can do a corrective trade come R3 if Petracca still isn't near playing. That appears less of a possibility though to my mind on two counts...Petracca should play soon and I'd be surprised if Hewett or co score really well, cement a spot and make me regret it.

[jfitty]

I'm leaning towards going Petracca over Hewett. Don't like Hewett's job security, especially if Petracca isn't far away..

[colmullet]

Thats fair enough, i'm not considering any of those guys either, the only guy i might consider changing to Petracca is Milera, for me though i pick the best rookies with the best JS and then build my premos around that rather than trying to force rookies into spots left after i pick my premos.

[GCSkiwi]

Personally, i don't think you can start him, not only do you miss cash generation from someone who is playing, you miss a good downgrade option later when he does get to the bubble.

Not needing to downgrade = 1 saved trade.

Each trade has a value.

The cash generation needs to exceed the trade value.

Petracca playing b4 round 4 is better than 3 price rises on Dunkley IMO, and he's very likely to achieve than now.

Thats fair enough, i'm not considering any of those guys either, the only guy i might consider changing to Petracca is Milera, for me though i pick the best rookies with the best JS and then build my premos around that rather than trying to force rookies into spots left after i pick my premos.

I'm with Colmullet on this one, see the point you're making Marstar but everyone usually banks a couple of corrective trades if needed, this is exactly the situation to use those, if you make a price rise off it then you're winning. But I'm also in a position where I wouldn't be considering any of the players in the original post, if I was I would probably think differently.

BUT, having a rookie who is playing this round lets you see how they go and see how Petracca goes, get a price rise and if it's worth it make the trade. But, say you pick Hewett and miraculously he stays in and gets ~60s, Petracca comes in and gets ~60s also, you're not gonna pull the trigger. But if Petracca doesn't come in til round 4, you've lost money on it... Pretty much the worst case scenario is Hewett gets 20s and Petracca comes in next week and gets 100s making him an absolute must have, you lose a trade for a few dollars... I'm ok taking that risk to get a look at how Petracca actually performs on the big stage.

[RaisyDaisy]

OK, so Petracca played today and all the Dee supporters who watched said he looked excellent

There is every chance that he debut's in round 3-4

I am not asking about starting him purely to be able to loophole and save a trade, but more importantly Ben Kennedy

I currently have Bennedy, and if Petracca returns in 2-3 weeks there is a good chance it's at the expense of Bennedy

So, instead of starting Bennedy I am really thinking I should just start Petracca. I can use him to bank Menadue's score, and loophole my fwd rookies each week until he plays, as well as use him for captain loopholes where possible but most importantly I don't have to worry about Bennedy getting dropped

Start Petracca or Bennedy - that's my decision

[Keeper27]

If Petracca debuts rnd 3-4 then you'll get 2 weeks to see how he goes before a price if he's killing it then dump your lowest scoring rookie for him. You would've got 2-3 price rises out of your lowest rookie and can grab Petracca on the bubble.

You make money and you've gained points. Win. Win.

[RaisyDaisy]

If Petracca debuts rnd 3-4 then you'll get 2 weeks to see how he goes before a price if he's killing it then dump your lowest scoring rookie for him. You would've got 2-3 price rises out of your lowest rookie and can grab Petracca on the bubble.

You make money and you've gained points. Win. Win.

And that's why I think I am now leaning back towards starting Petracca

2 price rises is hardly worth a precious trade. I might not be earning cash for 2-3 weeks, but I save a trade and earn extra points by using him to loophole

[tor01doc]

The argument that SC is a marathon and not a sprint supports RD's plan to grab Petracca now.

I like it.

[eaglesman]

If Petracca debuts rnd 3-4 then you'll get 2 weeks to see how he goes before a price if he's killing it then dump your lowest scoring rookie for him. You would've got 2-3 price rises out of your lowest rookie and can grab Petracca on the bubble.

You make money and you've gained points. Win. Win.

And that's why I think I am now leaning back towards starting Petracca

2 price rises is hardly worth a precious trade. I might not be earning cash for 2-3 weeks, but I save a trade and earn extra points by using him to loophole

I'll be starting bennedy 100%. I am pretty confident he will establish himself to be best 22 at the Dee's. It's whether I wanna start petracca or not.  And I reckon I will.

[Keeper27]

If Petracca debuts rnd 3-4 then you'll get 2 weeks to see how he goes before a price if he's killing it then dump your lowest scoring rookie for him. You would've got 2-3 price rises out of your lowest rookie and can grab Petracca on the bubble.

You make money and you've gained points. Win. Win.

And that's why I think I am now leaning back towards starting Petracca

2 price rises is hardly worth a precious trade. I might not be earning cash for 2-3 weeks, but I save a trade and earn extra points by using him to loophole

Most coaches allocate 2-3 corrective trades.
And this would be one. But with the added bonus of making some coin in the process

[Wanderer]

With Petracca and Grimley (or non-playing ruck loophole), should we really be starting with two players from day one that won't be playing at all for who knows how long?  I understand we need to use all the strategy and tactics possible to get an advantage, but it just doesn't feel right.

[RaisyDaisy]

The argument that SC is a marathon and not a sprint supports RD's plan to grab Petracca now.

I like it.

Onya Doc  ;)

I'll be starting bennedy 100%. I am pretty confident he will establish himself to be best 22 at the Dee's. It's whether I wanna start petracca or not.  And I reckon I will.

Dees supporters all seem to think that Bennedy is on the fringe. No doubt he has the opportunity, but I don't want to have to sweat each week that he and Milera get played, so Petracca and De Goey seems the right choice for me

Most coaches allocate 2-3 corrective trades.
And this would be one. But with the added bonus of making some coin in the process

I'll take the trade saved and loopholing ability over 2 price rises

[RaisyDaisy]

With Petracca and Grimley (or non-playing ruck loophole), should we really be starting with two players from day one that won't be playing at all for who knows how long?  I understand we need to use all the strategy and tactics possible to get an advantage, but it just doesn't feel right.

I wouldn't be counting Grimely. We don't have a choice - there are no cheap R3 options and he is the probably the most likely to eventually play so might as well go with him

[Wanderer]

With Petracca and Grimley (or non-playing ruck loophole), should we really be starting with two players from day one that won't be playing at all for who knows how long?  I understand we need to use all the strategy and tactics possible to get an advantage, but it just doesn't feel right.

I wouldn't be counting Grimely. We don't have a choice - there are no cheap R3 options and he is the probably the most likely to eventually play so might as well go with him

Yes, I get it. Let's just hope Petracca plays asap because the kid is a gun, even though a little injury prone.

[eaglesman]

I don't really care what the Dee's supporters say :p .. I have watched enough football to know that when he shows a bit of form they won't be dropping a bloke playing in good form. I'll back him in to earn his spot. It's Melbourne. They aren't exactly blessed with a team Of champions.