Petracca as a loophole option.

[Bully]

So if Petracca isn't the guy to start for loophole - who is?

I really don't want Grimley taking up one of my forward bench spots - much prefer him at R3

Gaz if he's not named could be a consideration, risky but he then becomes a legitimate POD. If Menadue scores well on Thursday then Gaz is locked if he doesn't get up in time. Other than that I would just leave it and wait for the inevitable injuries to hit.

[RaisyDaisy]

So if Petracca isn't the guy to start for loophole - who is?

I really don't want Grimley taking up one of my forward bench spots - much prefer him at R3

Gaz if he's not named could be a consideration, risky but he then becomes a legitimate POD. If Menadue scores well on Thursday then Gaz is locked if he doesn't get up in time. Other than that I would just leave it and wait for the inevitable injuries to hit.

Why are you questioning Gaz?

He has come out and stated he is 100% right for rd1, as have his coaches

By just leaving it, than you have no loophole

Think I will stick with Petracca. Allows me to swing Menadue between fwds and mids too

[Bully]

So if Petracca isn't the guy to start for loophole - who is?

I really don't want Grimley taking up one of my forward bench spots - much prefer him at R3

Gaz if he's not named could be a consideration, risky but he then becomes a legitimate POD. If Menadue scores well on Thursday then Gaz is locked if he doesn't get up in time. Other than that I would just leave it and wait for the inevitable injuries to hit.

Why are you questioning Gaz?

He has come out and stated he is 100% right for rd1, as have his coaches

By just leaving it, than you have no loophole

Think I will stick with Petracca. Allows me to swing Menadue between fwds and mids too

Just going on the info posted in the Gaz & Rocky thread.

By picking Petracca you are basically gambling on Martin reversing his woeful form against Carlton, Pendles scoring an extra 40 points on his 2015 average vs Richmond and Menadue killing it in round 2. If by round 3 you don't have any injuries to deal with then maybe such an approach will be vindicated, the odds of all 30 players being fit is fairly remote however, it will be even more frustrating if Davis gets dropped and you are left with one player to cover your 8 midfielders.

[eaglesman]

Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

This is the bench to have (hopefully Davis and Gresham get a gig) I have mills on the bench for now crouch at m8 just in case Gresham doesn't get a game. Having petracca in our teams at this point is pointless imo. We need downgrade options .. He will be a nice downgrade option in the fwd line

Mills on the bench? No way I will do that.

Think I will have to look at Menadue, Gresh and Davis on the pine

I have just allocated the cash for now ... If both gresh and Davis get a gig mills becomes m8 and I beef up the backline

[RaisyDaisy]

I don't have Dusty and Menadue is on my bench so both of those points you made do not impact me

Rd 1 I wouldn't have a proper option (Just put the VC on Kerridge) and Pendles for rd2 is fine

[piesfan1989]

Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

this is my bench

[Bully]

If people are desperate for a loophole I think it makes more sense to forget Grimley whose earning potential is very limited. But this is also where you have to ask the value of forgoing 150k to possibly get an extra few points here and there. The bottom line is Petracca is close to useless until round 3, Cox might be a better pick given Collingwood are a good team to loophole in 4 out of the first 6 matches. I'd also be pretty confident Cox will make more money than Grimley. The problem with this approach is that others will be switching to Cox anyway, possibly adding a nice amount to the bank account.

I don't have Dusty and Menadue is on my bench so both of those points you made do not impact me

Rd 1 I wouldn't have a proper option (Just put the VC on Kerridge) and Pendles for rd2 is fine

So round 1 is largely redundant, Pendles in round 2 isn't a bad option but he hasn't produced a captain's knock against Richmond for several years, his past scores being 106, 85, 129 & 105. Is this really a worthwhile gamble? What if Petracca does a Scharenberg and gets injured again, or finds himself out of his depth? The risk vs reward doesn't add up, I think if you want to loop a player then do it in the ruck, but I wouldn't be advising this either. With so few downgrade options available I wouldn't be wasting any opportunities and I can see carrying a dead weight in the midfield will become a major frustration.

[GoLions]

Don't think I'll be starting him

[bottlemart]

So the idea is to pick Petracca because he's not playing.  Then at the end of round 1 with injuries, suspensions, players getting dropped, I'm now wishing Petracca was playing so I can avoid a donut and the loophole is the least of my worries.

Pass.  Bully makes the most sense here.  I'll also wait til Petracca is actually playing and on the bubble. 

[Keeper27]

What's the difference if r3 or m11 not playing, either way you only have 29 playing.

because any midfield player even a rookie will outscore any ruck rookie.
R3 vs. M11 (M11 = 65-70 vs. R3 = 50)

Problem with r3 as you're loophole is that you have no protection should there be a late out, unless you have a ruck up forward, whereas you have that with m11 with 2 other bench players.

Loophole R3 donut with Grimley/cox @ F8, problem solved.
again with R3/M11 points differential

[timmyparso]

What's the difference if r3 or m11 not playing, either way you only have 29 playing.

because any midfield player even a rookie will outscore any ruck rookie.
R3 vs. M11 (M11 = 65-70 vs. R3 = 50)

Problem with r3 as you're loophole is that you have no protection should there be a late out, unless you have a ruck up forward, whereas you have that with m11 with 2 other bench players.

Loophole R3 donut with Grimley/cox @ F8, problem solved.
again with R3/M11 points differential

But are you losing out sacraficing a better scoring f8 for a floating non playing ruc/fwd?

A fwd rookie will outscore a ruck rookie, so isn't your argument against  loopholing Petracca a little conflicting? I also realise a mid rookie also will likely outscore a fwd rookie.

Interesting discussion here

[Bully]

From what I can tell scanning the draw, the best team to use as a loophole is the Western Bulldogs, pretty much all late Saturday games and Sunday games barring round 6. That probably means Adams is a must whether he's named or not and even if he spuds it up he will still be of use. Those going rookie heavy in defence might want to consider players who can be used in tandem with Adams, Broad would be handy although I don't like his JS in the long run.

If Adams is named then McCarthy of Geelong would be a viable option, Geelong play 3 Sundays in a row and then it's all late Saturday games. If both of these guys appear on the team sheet on Friday don't despair, you're still making $$.

[cortez]

I don't get all you people sacrificing a spot on your bench for this.

Have people heard of suspensions, injuries or being dropped?

These things mean that the player does play. Now out of the 30 players you pick yes they all will play round one but i nearly guarantee you after round one there will be at least one of your players each we who will suffer suspensions, injuries or being dropped.

In saying that why have a specialist position as a loophole player?

[PowerBug]

Hey guys. For those that may not venture out of the P&T section I have done a little piece on loopholing in the SC Strategy area of the forum. I've highlighted Melbourne as one of the good teams to choose but they aren't the only option we have. :)

I don't get all you people sacrificing a spot on your bench for this.

Have people heard of suspensions, injuries or being dropped?

These things mean that the player does play. Now out of the 30 players you pick yes they all will play round one but i nearly guarantee you after round one there will be at least one of your players each we who will suffer suspensions, injuries or being dropped.

In saying that why have a specialist position as a loophole player?

Well I see it this way. A Rookie only gains cash if you trade him out. So in the rucks (hypothetical here) why would you pick Grimley if he's only going to hit $200k (Cool $80k made, only if you trade him though, otherwise it's $200k player on your bench), have shaky JS and obviously not score well? Instead I can pick a player a loophole player that may get me that extra 20-30 points per week thanks to a double chance at a captain shot.

[Bully]

I'm certainly going with 30 starters but I won't be upset if a guy like Adams gets dropped, in fact the chances of all rookies playing until round 3 is next to zero I would have thought.

The other guy to look at would be Cocky, he'll be back after suspension but you still get two very handy Sunday games and won't be penalised financially. By round 3 the holes will start to open up.