Petracca as a loophole option.

Started by Bully, March 15, 2016, 09:28:40 PM

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piesfan1989

Absolute madness to start petracca if he won't play until r6..

make a 102k ruck rookie your loophole for gods sake..absolute joke to start him if he's out for that long

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 08:32:59 AM
People keep saying Petracca will be the perfect downgrade option

Do you not understand that he will be our loophole? What is the difference between using him or a ruck like King?

When Petracca does come into the side and we need a downgrade option, guess what? We downgrade to a non playing DPP M11 option who becomes our new loophole

The whole "cash generation" argument doesn't bother me, because R3 Grimley is making me money which replaces the M11

Either way, it's just 1 player from the 29 who is my loophole, and have a DPP option at M11 is better than R3 anyway

Not like there's a queue of mid rookie options lining up and were missing out on their cash generation

All great in theory but I don't see that you will have such a massive advantage in rounds 1 & 2 with Melbourne playing early Saturday morning. You can also put the E on Menadue which is handy but not worth sacrificing 150-200k in my opinion. On this point, if Menadue clocks in a 120 against Carlton then we all have the option of rejigging our side as there will still be a rolling lock-out.  By round 3 I'm pretty sure cracks will appear in everyone's team and there will be plenty of loophole options. Now that Petracca is listed as 6 weeks picking him doesn't make a lot of strategic sense, particularly when the rest of the competition will get a good look at him for two weeks and can make the call when he's on the bubble.

eaglesman

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 08:32:59 AM

When Petracca does come into the side and we need a downgrade option, guess what? We downgrade to a non playing DPP M11 option who becomes our new loophole

I see this being a pre planned trap that won't worth out. Would take a lot of stoned to trade in a non playing m11 mid season! Always loads of other issues to deal with

I think you have touched on a good point with the availability of downgrade options. Can see this being a big issue this year.
Feel like for this reason we might have to consider being a bit more mid pricey in some areas

fanTCfool

Games: 0
Games missed through injury: 100%

That sums up why I won't be starting him.


eaglesman

Quote from: eaglesman on March 20, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 08:32:59 AM

When Petracca does come into the side and we need a downgrade option, guess what? We downgrade to a non playing DPP M11 option who becomes our new loophole

I see this being a pre planned trap that won't workout. Would take a lot of stones to trade in a non playing m11 mid season! Always loads of other issues to deal with

I think you have touched on a good point with the availability of downgrade options. Can see this being a big issue this year.
Feel like for this reason we might have to consider being a bit more mid pricey in some areas

meow meow

Quote from: eaglesman on March 20, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 08:32:59 AM

When Petracca does come into the side and we need a downgrade option, guess what? We downgrade to a non playing DPP M11 option who becomes our new loophole

I see this being a pre planned trap that won't worth out. Would take a lot of stoned to trade in a non playing m11 mid season! Always loads of other issues to deal with

I think you have touched on a good point with the availability of downgrade options. Can see this being a big issue this year.
Feel like for this reason we might have to consider being a bit more mid pricey in some areas

Off the top of my head there will be Dunkley, Matho, Keayes, Trengove, Gore, Freeman in the midfield and that's enough right there. I see a lot of people stacking their mids but the lack of downgrade options elsewhere might see them struggling to find decent cover, especially down back. Could always trade out mid cows over and over then spend it elsewhere I guess.

eaglesman

Quote from: meow meow on March 20, 2016, 02:48:14 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 20, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 08:32:59 AM

When Petracca does come into the side and we need a downgrade option, guess what? We downgrade to a non playing DPP M11 option who becomes our new loophole

I see this being a pre planned trap that won't worth out. Would take a lot of stoned to trade in a non playing m11 mid season! Always loads of other issues to deal with

I think you have touched on a good point with the availability of downgrade options. Can see this being a big issue this year.
Feel like for this reason we might have to consider being a bit more mid pricey in some areas

Off the top of my head there will be Dunkley, Matho, Keayes, Trengove, Gore, Freeman in the midfield and that's enough right there. I see a lot of people stacking their mids but the lack of downgrade options elsewhere might see them struggling to find decent cover, especially down back. Could always trade out mid cows over and over then spend it elsewhere I guess.

Yup I should have clarified my point better ... Downgrade options in defensive line could be an issue.


RaisyDaisy

Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

This is my bench, very happy with it especially given Menadue provides a forward link. As for the cost, not such a big deal when you average out all 3 players, it's about 134k per player, pretty cheap all things considered.

sammy123

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

agreed RD. i don't like it at all.

petracca will still b my M11 no matter what anyone says. if it doesn't pay off. i will just fix it later

eaglesman

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

This is the bench to have (hopefully Davis and Gresham get a gig) I have mills on the bench for now crouch at m8 just in case Gresham doesn't get a game. Having petracca in our teams at this point is pointless imo. We need downgrade options .. He will be a nice downgrade option in the fwd line

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: eaglesman on March 20, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
Alright, so if we don't start Petracca what does our mid bench look like?

Menadue, Gresham and Davis?

Can't see any other option. Not exactly cheering about having two 140k plus guys on the pine  :-\

This is the bench to have (hopefully Davis and Gresham get a gig) I have mills on the bench for now crouch at m8 just in case Gresham doesn't get a game. Having petracca in our teams at this point is pointless imo. We need downgrade options .. He will be a nice downgrade option in the fwd line

Mills on the bench? No way I will do that.

Think I will have to look at Menadue, Gresh and Davis on the pine

RaisyDaisy

So if Petracca isn't the guy to start for loophole - who is?

I really don't want Grimley taking up one of my forward bench spots - much prefer him at R3

Ringo

My mid bench at the moment is Gresham, Bennedy and Davis who still has to be promoted,  Some rumours that McPherson may get the nod so we wait and see. Have Menadue at M8 with Kerridge the forward DPP link.

timmyparso

Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 20, 2016, 11:26:09 AM
Absolute madness to start petracca if he won't play until r6..

make a 102k ruck rookie your loophole for gods sake..absolute joke to start him if he's out for that long

What's the difference if r3 or m11 not playing, either way you only have 29 playing.

Problem with r3 as you're loophole is that you have no protection should there be a late out, unless you have a ruck up forward, whereas you have that with m11 with 2 other bench players.

Petracca will play this year, when he does, it is expected he will be good enough that you'd be trading him in anyway.

If round 1 team announcements give us more rookie mids than expected, then people may review the Petracca loophole option given mid rookies are usually better scorers and make more $.