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Richmond 2016 H&A discussion

Started by quinny88, March 14, 2016, 10:26:49 PM

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shaker

Quote from: meow meow on July 02, 2016, 01:23:39 PM
Should target AFL quality players like Steele, Hrovat, Towers and Nichols. As long as spuds like Batchelor and Hunt get games you'll never get anywhere. Trade that joke of a captain if you have to.

Voss isn't the worst coach. His players were shower and it's not like they've flourished once he moved on. You can't shine shower.

Tad harsh on Cotchin they should never had made him captain and that reflects on the bad decision making that has gone on at Richmond , he is just one of many AFL players that struggles with a tag the spotlight needs to go on players like Edwards and Ellis  I am sure if you google downhill skier there will be a picture of Edwards time after time when the game is there to be won and other players are doing it tough he does nothing look at our finals games he is a shocker that does not want to put his head over the ball but he is not alone . I wish we had the depth to be able to put these guys back in the 2's until they understand that this is required every game not only when things are easy but we don't , maybe now is the time .

quinny88

Apparently Richmond are in the box seat to get Prestia, 700k contract which Melbourne arent willing to pay. Will see what happens though.

Calling Cotchin a joke? He's a star and has had a really strong season. Was poor on Friday night but so were plenty of others. Too much reliance on him and Dusty in the middle, they need a bit of support. Prestia would be nice.

Lets wait and see Yarran play before making judgement on him too soon. Hoping he plays some footy late in the year

shaker

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Quote from: quinny88 on July 03, 2016, 10:51:16 PM
Apparently Richmond are in the box seat to get Prestia, 700k contract which Melbourne arent willing to pay. Will see what happens though.

Calling Cotchin a joke? He's a star and has had a really strong season. Was poor on Friday night but so were plenty of others. Too much reliance on him and Dusty in the middle, they need a bit of support. Prestia would be nice.

Lets wait and see Yarran play before making judgement on him too soon. Hoping he plays some footy late in the year

700k is a lot but that is where our problem lies as we saw when our 2 best are tagged we get slaughtered and having other players that are not willing to get there hands dirty when this happens is another , the coach has finally come out and said finals are out so we don't need to win many more games and after watching the 2's on the weekend ( which did a lot better ) it's time to give young guys Castagna , McBean , Lennon , Rioli and Marcon a good run plus others and time for Lambert . Edwards and even Ellis to go back and learn that they have to give 100% every game not just when it is easy

As for Yarran yes we have him now and we need to play him but not sure if he is up to it anymore but my point was that was a trade that should never have been done like a lot of other rejects we have gathered over the years

PowerBug

PLEASE take Michael Voss!! The combination of Phil Walsh leaving and Michael Voss coming in has ruined Port's midfield :'(

As a non-Richmond supporter and someone that loves to find different ways to make fun of Richmond, I really hope Hardwick stays on as coach ;D I think the best comment I heard at the game on Friday was "There was no breeze and Cotchin still kicked into it!" We will never forget that game as Power supporters :)


On a serious note though, you've got a good group of midfielders there I think. I actually think Cotchin is a good captain and I wouldn't go taking that off him. But other than Rance can anyone beat their opponent? Troy Chaplin can't even get a game in that defence, and he is BAD. Lloyd and Riewoldt very good up forward, Vickery I don't rate, Griffiths hasn't got the game to game consistency in him yet. I think there's upside to the squad, but it looks like Hardwick isn't the person to make the most of that.
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Pkbaldy

Richmond need to trade off some of these midfielders. Got way too many of the same type.  Outside skill and pace would nearly have to be the worst of any club... Cotchin, slow. Grigg, slow. B.Ellis, slow. C.Ellis, slow. Martin, slow but strong. I don't even think Menadue is that quick... He just looks quick in comparison. The only one that comes to mind that has a chance is Rioli...But how long will it take for him to have a midfielder tank?

I reckon try and get rid of Brandon Ellis + Vickery for either a quick midfielder or a early 1st rounder and pick up a kid with a bit of pace. Preferably not with an injury history. That will help.

Bill Manspeaker


Toga

Quote from: PowerBug on July 05, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
On a serious note though, you've got a good group of midfielders there I think. I actually think Cotchin is a good captain and I wouldn't go taking that off him. But other than Rance can anyone beat their opponent? Troy Chaplin can't even get a game in that defence, and he is BAD. Lloyd and Riewoldt very good up forward, Vickery I don't rate, Griffiths hasn't got the game to game consistency in him yet. I think there's upside to the squad, but it looks like Hardwick isn't the person to make the most of that.

I don't get the Chaplin comment haha... He isn't getting a game because he is bad..? ???

quinny88

For starters, Voss isn't coming to Richmond, the post was a joke from a Facebook page that also posted saying we were signing Bootsma up a couple of years ago lol.

On Lewy Taylor, I'd take him at Richmond for sure. Will be a very good player.

quinny88

Quote from: Pkbaldy on July 06, 2016, 02:52:49 PM
Richmond need to trade off some of these midfielders. Got way too many of the same type.  Outside skill and pace would nearly have to be the worst of any club... Cotchin, slow. Grigg, slow. B.Ellis, slow. C.Ellis, slow. Martin, slow but strong. I don't even think Menadue is that quick... He just looks quick in comparison. The only one that comes to mind that has a chance is Rioli...But how long will it take for him to have a midfielder tank?

I reckon try and get rid of Brandon Ellis + Vickery for either a quick midfielder or a early 1st rounder and pick up a kid with a bit of pace. Preferably not with an injury history. That will help.

Slow in comparison to who? Could say that about most sides. There's only one or 2 genuine line breakers at every team. How teams move the ball is what really matters.
I was a big fan of B.Ellis but I think he's definitely one we could look at trading that has some currency

elephants

Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
On Lewy Taylor, I'd take him at Richmond for sure. Will be a very good player.

For 500k a year? Bonkers to pay him that much I reckon

shaker

Quote from: elephants on July 07, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
On Lewy Taylor, I'd take him at Richmond for sure. Will be a very good player.

For 500k a year? Bonkers to pay him that much I reckon

Where did that figure come from ?

Nige

Quote from: shaker on July 07, 2016, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 07, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
On Lewy Taylor, I'd take him at Richmond for sure. Will be a very good player.

For 500k a year? Bonkers to pay him that much I reckon

Where did that figure come from ?
That's what he's demanding at Brisbane atm.

I'm with ele though. Big fan of Squizz, but there's no chance I'd take him on 500k a year.

elephants

Quote from: shaker on July 07, 2016, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 07, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
On Lewy Taylor, I'd take him at Richmond for sure. Will be a very good player.

For 500k a year? Bonkers to pay him that much I reckon

Where did that figure come from ?

Have you been living under a rock? haha

PowerBug

Quote from: Toga on July 06, 2016, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on July 05, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
On a serious note though, you've got a good group of midfielders there I think. I actually think Cotchin is a good captain and I wouldn't go taking that off him. But other than Rance can anyone beat their opponent? Troy Chaplin can't even get a game in that defence, and he is BAD. Lloyd and Riewoldt very good up forward, Vickery I don't rate, Griffiths hasn't got the game to game consistency in him yet. I think there's upside to the squad, but it looks like Hardwick isn't the person to make the most of that.

I don't get the Chaplin comment haha... He isn't getting a game because he is bad..? ???
Neither do I reading it back. :-[ He did play last time you guys played Port though (as in Rd 6) and he definitely sucked then as well :P
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shaker

Quote from: elephants on July 07, 2016, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 07, 2016, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on July 07, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 06, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
On Lewy Taylor, I'd take him at Richmond for sure. Will be a very good player.

For 500k a year? Bonkers to pay him that much I reckon

Where did that figure come from ?

Have you been living under a rock? haha

Haha don't spend to much time on Brisbane player demands 500K tell him he's dreaming  :P