Chopstick Samurai

Started by Footyrulz, February 23, 2016, 05:02:47 PM

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Footyrulz

After much deliberation, I've finally come up with this team:

D - Houli, Simpson, Bartel, B Smith, Broad, Bonner, (Brown, Byrne)
M - Danger, Pendles, Gazza, Rockliff, Libba, Simpkin, Gresham, Mathieson (Keays, Cuningham, MacPherson)
R - Martin, Jacobs, (Grimley)
F - Dusty, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Barlow, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer, Phillips)

Still tossing up between Houli, Birch and KK, and I'll get Wines instead of a mid rookie if there are better rookies in defence or forward.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Discomaniac

Can't fault the structure Footyrulz. Solid team. I have gone for another premium mid but with one less premium forward and back Personal choice really.

Footyrulz

Quote from: Discomaniac on February 24, 2016, 04:36:38 PM
Can't fault the structure Footyrulz. Solid team. I have gone for another premium mid but with one less premium forward and back Personal choice really.
Yeah I prefer to go with an extra mid rookie, as they always score the best, but are the same price. Generally premiums are similar value between positions.

Footyrulz

I've brought in kk for Houli now, as I'm worried Houli might fall back to his 2014 ave, good idea?

Footyrulz

Just wondering why I've got 1 reply, when some teams get 50+??  :P

fanTCfool

Quote from: Footyrulz on February 27, 2016, 05:07:42 PM
Just wondering why I've got 1 reply, when some teams get 50+??  :P

Possibly because you declared it your 'Starting Team'
People won't give feedback if it won't impact anything.

Footyrulz

Quote from: fanTCfool on February 27, 2016, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: Footyrulz on February 27, 2016, 05:07:42 PM
Just wondering why I've got 1 reply, when some teams get 50+??  :P

Possibly because you declared it your 'Starting Team'
People won't give feedback if it won't impact anything.
Ok haha I didn't mean it was set. I'll change the name.

Ringo

Like the structure - No comments on rookies as we will not who starts.  Can not see both Mathieson and Keays starting for Brisbane so keep an eye rookies that may surface for Rd 1.  Gore and MacPherson are a couple to watch if they get named.

Defence is a hard one for you - KK will he continue with output similar to last year with the Suns midfield return. Will Malceski show the form that was missing last year,  Birchall can through in the low scores and has such a wide variation.
Statistic wise Houli is the better pick but his scores can vary widely as well.  Have you got a three headed coin.

AaronKirk

15 keepers is very good mate.

Most on here will have 5 premiums + Libba in the mids as a minimum so maybe a bit weak there but some (like me ATM) will only have 3 forward and defense keepers.

Cannot say i'm a massive fan of the Wingard pick as he needs to have a massive goalkicking year to remain a chance to be a  top 10 forward. Would personally prefer the Hoff or S.Gray if picking a POD power player up forward.

Footyrulz

Quote from: Ringo on February 27, 2016, 10:33:58 PM
Like the structure - No comments on rookies as we will not who starts.  Can not see both Mathieson and Keays starting for Brisbane so keep an eye rookies that may surface for Rd 1.  Gore and MacPherson are a couple to watch if they get named.

Defence is a hard one for you - KK will he continue with output similar to last year with the Suns midfield return. Will Malceski show the form that was missing last year,  Birchall can through in the low scores and has such a wide variation.
Statistic wise Houli is the better pick but his scores can vary widely as well.  Have you got a three headed coin.
Thanks, I've swapped Keays for Gore, who has a good chance of playing now Jaensch has retired.

I think I'm gonna go with KK, as Houli has only really had 1 good year. KK is cheaper, and could easily rise above Houli.

Footyrulz

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Quote from: AaronKirk on February 28, 2016, 03:11:25 AM
15 keepers is very good mate.

Most on here will have 5 premiums + Libba in the mids as a minimum so maybe a bit weak there but some (like me ATM) will only have 3 forward and defense keepers.

Cannot say i'm a massive fan of the Wingard pick as he needs to have a massive goalkicking year to remain a chance to be a  top 10 forward. Would personally prefer the Hoff or S.Gray if picking a POD power player up forward.
Yeah my strategy is always to go with as many mid rookies as possible, because they are better value than rookies in other positions. With the premiums, the mids might score better, but are also more expensive, so I prefer to trade them in later.

I'll keep in mind your thoughts on Wingard. I won't get Hoff (oldish key forward) or Gray (unproven) though, as they could easily average under 90.

Whether I pick Wingard or maybe Zorko/Devon Smith might depend on Port's round 1 team. If Neade is playing, Wingard should play further up the ground a bit and keep up his scoring levels. Could be a concern if Neade's not in though.

AaronKirk

To be fair to the Hoff he is only 28. He isn't that old. Hoff has gone 90+ in the last 3 seasons and only missed 1 H+A game in the last 3 seasons. Port will be a premiership contender with a fit list and their draw and I cannot see him going less than 95 this season.

Wingard did average higher than Westhoff vs the opponents in the first 10 weeks of 2016 (Roughly 102 v 93) whether that was inflated by Wingard's goalkicking season which was simply brilliant is to be seen.

Wingard will need to kick 60+ goals and get more mid time to improve to a 100 average whilst IMO Westhoff will be able to play that roaming role with some ruck time with the addition of Dixon to the Port side. There seems to be more potential scoring upside with the Hoff.

Sam Gray, who I have not considered much yet, spent most of his time in the mids yesterday, which is an indication of where Port want him to play in 2016. He could continue in the vein of form he had late in 2015 and go in the 90-100 ballpark in 2016 and be another valid, cheaper option.

It depends on whether Wingard will get more mid time. I was burned by him 2 years ago when he played exclusively up forward but also brought him in at the back end of last season where he did very well for me. I just don't trust Hinkley to give him the extra midfield time in 2016 as he is a brilliant goalkicking forward.

Footyrulz

Quote from: AaronKirk on February 28, 2016, 09:44:28 AM
To be fair to the Hoff he is only 28. He isn't that old. Hoff has gone 90+ in the last 3 seasons and only missed 1 H+A game in the last 3 seasons. Port will be a premiership contender with a fit list and their draw and I cannot see him going less than 95 this season.

Wingard did average higher than Westhoff vs the opponents in the first 10 weeks of 2016 (Roughly 102 v 93) whether that was inflated by Wingard's goalkicking season which was simply brilliant is to be seen.

Wingard will need to kick 60+ goals and get more mid time to improve to a 100 average whilst IMO Westhoff will be able to play that roaming role with some ruck time with the addition of Dixon to the Port side. There seems to be more potential scoring upside with the Hoff.

Sam Gray, who I have not considered much yet, spent most of his time in the mids yesterday, which is an indication of where Port want him to play in 2016. He could continue in the vein of form he had late in 2015 and go in the 90-100 ballpark in 2016 and be another valid, cheaper option.

It depends on whether Wingard will get more mid time. I was burned by him 2 years ago when he played exclusively up forward but also brought him in at the back end of last season where he did very well for me. I just don't trust Hinkley to give him the extra midfield time in 2016 as he is a brilliant goalkicking forward.
Yeah I agree Wingard doesn't have much potential to jump, but I can't see him falling below 95 given his quality and a likely rise up the ladder from Port. There's no reason to think he will kick less goals than he did last year. He could be out of the side if Neade isnt playing round 1 though, cause he would be a like for like with Monfries.

My number 1 rule is to never pick KPPs after being burned by a few in the past, even if they are as proven as the Hoff.

TurtlesTeam

Sauce ??...I am doing a lot of reading and he hasn't been selected in many at all. Big extremes last season if I recall.

Footyrulz

Quote from: TurtlesTeam on February 28, 2016, 01:55:18 PM
Sauce ??...I am doing a lot of reading and he hasn't been selected in many at all. Big extremes last season if I recall.
Yeah I think people are staying away cause he has a bad early draw.

It doesn't matter though, as long as he ends with the same average at the end of the year. Also plays 22 games every year.