Heath Shaw

[GoLions]

Is there even any competition to him not beign the top scoring back? I don't think he will go as big as last year but I expect 105. I'm starting him because he's literally the only backman I'm confident in going 100+

Would have preferred McVeigh for a better price but he's been injured all pre season. Boyd is tempting but bound to be rested at stages and then there's a drop to the guys like Simmo and Bartel that I have because they are cheaper and safe for 90+

Shaw the only real safe 100+ option I'm swing for D1 though which is frustrating because he's overpriced

If there aren't many decent def rookies that line up round 1, I'll be really tempted to try and squeeze him in. But at this stage think he's just too expensive. Would most likely be my very first upgrade though, preferably after like 5-6 rounds once he's dropped 50k or so :P

[quinny88]

Is there even any competition to him not beign the top scoring back? I don't think he will go as big as last year but I expect 105. I'm starting him because he's literally the only backman I'm confident in going 100+

Would have preferred McVeigh for a better price but he's been injured all pre season. Boyd is tempting but bound to be rested at stages and then there's a drop to the guys like Simmo and Bartel that I have because they are cheaper and safe for 90+

Shaw the only real safe 100+ option I'm swing for D1 though which is frustrating because he's overpriced

If there aren't many decent def rookies that line up round 1, I'll be really tempted to try and squeeze him in. But at this stage think he's just too expensive. Would most likely be my very first upgrade though, preferably after like 5-6 rounds once he's dropped 50k or so :P

I'd be happy to have him as my first upgrade target if I trusted anyone else haha. I don't know who you have in your defence but who would you put along side Simmo and Bartel if not Shaw?

[GoLions]

Is there even any competition to him not beign the top scoring back? I don't think he will go as big as last year but I expect 105. I'm starting him because he's literally the only backman I'm confident in going 100+

Would have preferred McVeigh for a better price but he's been injured all pre season. Boyd is tempting but bound to be rested at stages and then there's a drop to the guys like Simmo and Bartel that I have because they are cheaper and safe for 90+

Shaw the only real safe 100+ option I'm swing for D1 though which is frustrating because he's overpriced

If there aren't many decent def rookies that line up round 1, I'll be really tempted to try and squeeze him in. But at this stage think he's just too expensive. Would most likely be my very first upgrade though, preferably after like 5-6 rounds once he's dropped 50k or so :P

I'd be happy to have him as my first upgrade target if I trusted anyone else haha. I don't know who you have in your defence but who would you put along side Simmo and Bartel if not Shaw?

Birchall atm

[quinny88]

Is there even any competition to him not beign the top scoring back? I don't think he will go as big as last year but I expect 105. I'm starting him because he's literally the only backman I'm confident in going 100+

Would have preferred McVeigh for a better price but he's been injured all pre season. Boyd is tempting but bound to be rested at stages and then there's a drop to the guys like Simmo and Bartel that I have because they are cheaper and safe for 90+

Shaw the only real safe 100+ option I'm swing for D1 though which is frustrating because he's overpriced

If there aren't many decent def rookies that line up round 1, I'll be really tempted to try and squeeze him in. But at this stage think he's just too expensive. Would most likely be my very first upgrade though, preferably after like 5-6 rounds once he's dropped 50k or so :P

I'd be happy to have him as my first upgrade target if I trusted anyone else haha. I don't know who you have in your defence but who would you put along side Simmo and Bartel if not Shaw?

Birchall atm

I mean guys that can push 100+ though.
I don't see any upside in Birchall. Low to mid 90s at best which I will already get from Simmo and Bartel.

[GoLions]

Is there even any competition to him not beign the top scoring back? I don't think he will go as big as last year but I expect 105. I'm starting him because he's literally the only backman I'm confident in going 100+

Would have preferred McVeigh for a better price but he's been injured all pre season. Boyd is tempting but bound to be rested at stages and then there's a drop to the guys like Simmo and Bartel that I have because they are cheaper and safe for 90+

Shaw the only real safe 100+ option I'm swing for D1 though which is frustrating because he's overpriced

If there aren't many decent def rookies that line up round 1, I'll be really tempted to try and squeeze him in. But at this stage think he's just too expensive. Would most likely be my very first upgrade though, preferably after like 5-6 rounds once he's dropped 50k or so :P

I'd be happy to have him as my first upgrade target if I trusted anyone else haha. I don't know who you have in your defence but who would you put along side Simmo and Bartel if not Shaw?

Birchall atm

I mean guys that can push 100+ though.
I don't see any upside in Birchall. Low to mid 90s at best which I will already get from Simmo and Bartel.

Oh, thought you just meant who am I confident in starting :P

I thought Birchall was fairly average last year and still went 86, reckon he can go 90-95 and happy with that as a D6

Shaw, McVeigh, and someone else as upgrade targets. Think McVeigh can maybe go 100+, but doesn't look like he'll be 100% round 1. Really tempted by Boyd with his first 8 or so games at Etihad, but will surely be rested.

Agree that there aren't really any others who should push for a 100 avg, but I don't need them to with my current midfield ;)

[IntegralX]

With my current setup I don't have him in as yet. Getting him is one of my first priorities once the season starts however; I don't have the spare 120-150k lying around right now though.

[quinny88]

Is there even any competition to him not beign the top scoring back? I don't think he will go as big as last year but I expect 105. I'm starting him because he's literally the only backman I'm confident in going 100+

Would have preferred McVeigh for a better price but he's been injured all pre season. Boyd is tempting but bound to be rested at stages and then there's a drop to the guys like Simmo and Bartel that I have because they are cheaper and safe for 90+

Shaw the only real safe 100+ option I'm swing for D1 though which is frustrating because he's overpriced

If there aren't many decent def rookies that line up round 1, I'll be really tempted to try and squeeze him in. But at this stage think he's just too expensive. Would most likely be my very first upgrade though, preferably after like 5-6 rounds once he's dropped 50k or so :P

I'd be happy to have him as my first upgrade target if I trusted anyone else haha. I don't know who you have in your defence but who would you put along side Simmo and Bartel if not Shaw?

Birchall atm

I mean guys that can push 100+ though.
I don't see any upside in Birchall. Low to mid 90s at best which I will already get from Simmo and Bartel.

Oh, thought you just meant who am I confident in starting :P

I thought Birchall was fairly average last year and still went 86, reckon he can go 90-95 and happy with that as a D6

Shaw, McVeigh, and someone else as upgrade targets. Think McVeigh can maybe go 100+, but doesn't look like he'll be 100% round 1. Really tempted by Boyd with his first 8 or so games at Etihad, but will surely be rested.

Agree that there aren't really any others who should push for a 100 avg, but I don't need them to with my current midfield ;)

Yeah I really wanted McVeigh. 60-70k cheaper and pumps out 100 every year. Might still get him if he plays a nab game.
Will stick with Shaw for now though. Don't feel like having him at D1 is hurting my side too much but could always do with the extra cash!

[RaisyDaisy]

I've said all summer that I am happy to start one of Shaw or Lids - but not both

I've had Lids all along because i think guys like Simpson, Bartel and Birchall offer more value for money and because i am going cheap down back I am inclined to pass on Heater for now. That being said I am not entirely confident in starting Lids either

I had McVeigh locked but considering he is doubtful for rd1 he is out of the picture and becomes an upgrade target. Heater is one of only maybe 2-4 that should average over 100, but at the same time the extra 10 points he gains you over say a Simpson for me, I have that extra 100k elsewhere getting me those 10 points back anyway

Eski appeals to me, because he could turn into a premo, but if he doesnt then he should be easy to upgrade to Heater. That being said Eski is in and out of my side  :-\

[Keeper27]

I've said all summer that I am happy to start one of Shaw or Lids Fyfe/Goldy - but not both all 3

i'd rather the best Ruckman & best midfielder than shaw. also got dusty too. defense had to suffer for the greater good of my team

[PICCOLLO]

Not much doubt he'll be the highest averaging defender.  I don't think starting with him is a bad move.  That said, having him as a priority upgrade works too. 

[ronl]

Has a history of severe drop-offs following a spate of good scoring.  Surely opposition coaches will start using blocking strategies to curb his influence. Not willing to pay the salary he wants.  Happy to go with Simpson, Bartel, Birchall.

[Bubbles]

I had him for a while but couldn't help but downgrade him. $600k is a lot of money, look at the midfielders you can get for his price :o

If you're spending that much on a player you would wanna be pretty sure they'll pump out regular big numbers... And with him I'm not quite shaw ;) Last year was last year.

Calm down boot studder

[Bubbles]

He is the quarter back of a really good young team and he always plays on from kick ins, I'm willing to the $$$ for him, especially if he has a really soild NAB

[DaveElNacho]

I think the tough part is that last year the top 8 defenders had averages of 95+. Top 16 were 90+. Only Shaw and Hodge went 100+.
So you could spend big on Shaw and get a big scoring defender - but someone who is unlikely to improve on their average.
Or you could spend the 600k on an elite midfielder with the chance to improve their average and still have money for a top defender.

It's all well and good to say he's the only defender who will go 100+ but you should think of the impact on your whole team. It's all about value for money.

[quinny88]

It's all good and well to have Shaw as an upgrade target but no one is naming any players that can get near his scores.
Taking Birchall instead of Shaw saves money but it also gives away 20 points per week. Where else are you making up for that even with a better midfielder?