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Jukes

Quote from: LordSneeze on February 28, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
The allure isn't the first 5 rounds though. It is the fact he wont miss games. This allows him to score more points overall than the other players. Not specifically on average alone.

In saying that, do you have Ablett in your team?

LordSneeze

Quote from: Jukes on February 28, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on February 28, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
The allure isn't the first 5 rounds though. It is the fact he wont miss games. This allows him to score more points overall than the other players. Not specifically on average alone.

In saying that, do you have Ablett in your team?

Say Ablett averages 130 over 20 games. Thats 2600 or over 22 games 118PPG

Note this isn't even taking into account the bench cover score. It you take into account a conservative 140 (70 x2) it bumps it up to 125PPG.
Then you have the option for the captain pick. Added benefit there too.

Please pick me a mid at Abletts price that will average 125+
Even if you drop Abletts average to 120 you still need to pick someone who will average 116 to make it worth it.

Only 3 players did that last year, Fyfe (Injury prone too), Danger (Possible, but unknown with a new team), Pendles (Most will already have him with Ablett as I do)




Not picking Ablett this year is at your own peril.

Jukes

Quote from: LordSneeze on February 28, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Jukes on February 28, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on February 28, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
The allure isn't the first 5 rounds though. It is the fact he wont miss games. This allows him to score more points overall than the other players. Not specifically on average alone.

In saying that, do you have Ablett in your team?

Say Ablett averages 130 over 20 games. Thats 2600 or over 22 games 118PPG

Note this isn't even taking into account the bench cover score. It you take into account a conservative 140 (70 x2) it bumps it up to 125PPG.
Then you have the option for the captain pick. Added benefit there too.

Please pick me a mid at Abletts price that will average 125+
Even if you drop Abletts average to 120 you still need to pick someone who will average 116 to make it worth it.

Only 3 players did that last year, Fyfe (Injury prone too), Danger (Possible, but unknown with a new team), Pendles (Most will already have him with Ablett as I do)

Not picking Ablett this year is at your own peril.

Ablett isn't averaging 130 over 20 games though. He's barely played 20 over the last two years combined, and getting older doesn't make you less injury-prone (32 in May remember). Look forward to that 115-120 average over 15 games, assuming there's no major injury again.

I'd rather save x money (I don't do traditional SC so don't know prices) and get a guy who will play almost every game and will average like 110 and use that money saved on upgrading a guy who might average 70 to somebody who might average 90 (like Parish to Gibbs or something idk).

I'd do a proper thing but (a) gotta do other things and (b) don't into SC.

quinny88

Quote from: Gigantor on February 28, 2016, 08:55:16 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2016, 06:28:28 AM
Quote from: Marstar on February 28, 2016, 05:30:57 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2016, 04:58:41 AM
Still don't understand the appeal  :-\

Similar appeal as K.Simpson. Proven top6 overall points capable for your fwd line.

Not on the decline. Favourable draw. Bully.

Unique.

I understand Simpson though because he's a safe choice in an area that has no safe choices but the forward line has heaps of guys that will go 100+ so I don't see the need for a guy like Westhoff

I don't think the forward premos are that solid.
Dusty the only lock for me
Lids and Montagna will miss games
Barlow and Dahl should go at 100 but not a certainty
Bennell and Buddy are unknowns
Zorko and Wingard won't hit 100

So a durable guy like Hoff is starting to look OK

Why are Lids and Montagna so certain to miss games? They are both very durable.
Even if they do miss a couple and you are forced to play a rookie those weeks they are still out scoring hoff.
Zorko averaged 100 last year and Wingard 98 so there's no reason they won't go 100+. Both are young and improving.
There's probably 8 guys I would pick over hoff.

LordSneeze

Quote from: Jukes on February 28, 2016, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on February 28, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Jukes on February 28, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on February 28, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
The allure isn't the first 5 rounds though. It is the fact he wont miss games. This allows him to score more points overall than the other players. Not specifically on average alone.

In saying that, do you have Ablett in your team?

Say Ablett averages 130 over 20 games. Thats 2600 or over 22 games 118PPG

Note this isn't even taking into account the bench cover score. It you take into account a conservative 140 (70 x2) it bumps it up to 125PPG.
Then you have the option for the captain pick. Added benefit there too.

Please pick me a mid at Abletts price that will average 125+
Even if you drop Abletts average to 120 you still need to pick someone who will average 116 to make it worth it.

Only 3 players did that last year, Fyfe (Injury prone too), Danger (Possible, but unknown with a new team), Pendles (Most will already have him with Ablett as I do)

Not picking Ablett this year is at your own peril.

Ablett isn't averaging 130 over 20 games though. He's barely played 20 over the last two years combined, and getting older doesn't make you less injury-prone (32 in May remember). Look forward to that 115-120 average over 15 games, assuming there's no major injury again.

I'd rather save x money (I don't do traditional SC so don't know prices) and get a guy who will play almost every game and will average like 110 and use that money saved on upgrading a guy who might average 70 to somebody who might average 90 (like Parish to Gibbs or something idk).

I'd do a proper thing but (a) gotta do other things and (b) don't into SC.

All the games missed in the last 2 years were from two injuries. Shoulder and Knee, neither of which according to all report are hampering him now. In the 8 years prior he averaged 20.375 games. So saying he is only going to play 15 without a major injury is optimistic at best. Sounds to me your trying to convince yourself it is smart not to pick him.

Your saying he wont average 130 aswell. Look at his unsubbed history since 2008.
132, 140, 130, 127, 138, 129, 137, 133
Over that entire period he is averaging 133.

You add in he is only priced at 115 and it should be a no brainer.
95% of serous SC'ers will have Ablett. The other 5% are trying to create a POD and hoping he gets injured again.

Complete different story in draft, not sure why you wouldn't play traditional though if your interested enough to come onto a forum and post

DaveElNacho

Quote from: Jukes on February 28, 2016, 06:45:19 PM
Ablett isn't averaging 130 over 20 games though. He's barely played 20 over the last two years combined, and getting older doesn't make you less injury-prone (32 in May remember). Look forward to that 115-120 average over 15 games, assuming there's no major injury again.

I'd rather save x money (I don't do traditional SC so don't know prices) and get a guy who will play almost every game and will average like 110 and use that money saved on upgrading a guy who might average 70 to somebody who might average 90 (like Parish to Gibbs or something idk).

I'd do a proper thing but (a) gotta do other things and (b) don't into SC.

The reason people are picking up Ablett is because he's cheap. You might save 25k going to a "110 average who'll play almost every game"...

You don't do supercoach so why would come on to a supercoach board and talk about prices and averages if that's your argument....

RaisyDaisy

Lol Jukes. Stop baiting people with your anti Ablett theory lol

Holz

just jumped off,

will be a good pick but with Milera Cockatoo Wells Kennedy Kerridge all solid players im actually starting 2 Fwd premos in Martin Barlow.

got JPK Fyfe Ablett Rocky Pendles in the mids though and Rance Bartel Birhc down back with Goldy NN

Jackross10

Quote from: Holz on February 29, 2016, 12:20:31 PM
just jumped off,

will be a good pick but with Milera Cockatoo Wells Kennedy Kerridge all solid players im actually starting 2 Fwd premos in Martin Barlow.

got JPK Fyfe Ablett Rocky Pendles in the mids though and Rance Bartel Birhc down back with Goldy NN

have had this structure for a while, same fwds but parker over jpk due to cash atm for me.

Holz

ok so he has been pretty up and down

109 24 85 99 28 81 121

basically 2 shockers and 5 good games.

with port looking like they may have turned a corner, especially with gray coming back is he worth a look at 405k.

a 100 will see him shoot up 22k with a BE of only 34 playing Carlton

jvalles69

Think he's still a risk, but I agree that he is going to have a bit of a purple patch starting this week.

Holz

Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
Think he's still a risk, but I agree that he is going to have a bit of a purple patch starting this week.

got to admit im mighty tempted to pick him up over Dmart. What i think is the smarter move is wait a week if he goes 100+ thats 3 straight 100s and at 420k its potentailly a very good pick up.


MontyJnr

Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
Think he's still a risk, but I agree that he is going to have a bit of a purple patch starting this week.

got to admit im mighty tempted to pick him up over Dmart. What i think is the smarter move is wait a week if he goes 100+ thats 3 straight 100s and at 420k its potentailly a very good pick up.



A smarter move would've been picking up Aaron Hall :) He got 3 straight 120s (with 3 other 90+ scores to go with it) and at 420k he has been a very good pick up ;D

Westhoff? I wouldn't touch him, his 2 scores in the 20s were uninjured :o

Like Hoff can compete with Zorko, Dahl, Montags, Martin, Hall, Deledio etc. anyway ::)

Start picking real premiums plz Holz 8)

Judd Magic

Quote from: MontyJnr on May 12, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
Think he's still a risk, but I agree that he is going to have a bit of a purple patch starting this week.

got to admit im mighty tempted to pick him up over Dmart. What i think is the smarter move is wait a week if he goes 100+ thats 3 straight 100s and at 420k its potentailly a very good pick up.



A smarter move would've been picking up Aaron Hall :) He got 3 straight 120s (with 3 other 90+ scores to go with it) and at 420k he has been a very good pick up ;D


ants

Quote from: Judd Magic on May 12, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on May 12, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 12, 2016, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on May 12, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
Think he's still a risk, but I agree that he is going to have a bit of a purple patch starting this week.

got to admit im mighty tempted to pick him up over Dmart. What i think is the smarter move is wait a week if he goes 100+ thats 3 straight 100s and at 420k its potentailly a very good pick up.



A smarter move would've been picking up Aaron Hall :) He got 3 straight 120s (with 3 other 90+ scores to go with it) and at 420k he has been a very good pick up ;D