Premium Midfield Conundrum

[LordSneeze]

Is anyone considering starting with a weaker midfield to strengthen and balance the other lines?

I've seen a lot of coaches with the combination of Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Pendles and Rockliff, but this is how I've structured mine:

Ablett, Gray, JPK, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Oliver, then cheaper rookies.

This lets me have set and forget rucks, including Goldstein, then 4 premium forwards and backs.

Anyone else thinking along this line? If Ablett averages 125+, Rockliff around 115-120, Gray and JPK both 115, and Libba 105-110, the money saved allows for a more balanced side.

I dont really like the backline forward premos though thats the issue and i like the cheap options.

If we compare my starting midfield to yours its

Pendles Danger Fyfe Crouch v Gray JPK Oliver Cheapie.

117 120 125 90 v 110 112 70 65

452 v 357 = 95 point gain

I have goldy nn in the ruck so the points need to be made up in the other lines.

not sure it can be done.

That's a fair comparison Holz, I assume that means you're starting with Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills? Which is about as strong as it can get.

I suppose it comes down to whether that 95 can be made up by going a premium in the forward line over Milera, Cockatoo, Bennedy, etc, and picking a more proven player in defence over Sheridan, Lonergan, etc

Dont forget to factor in cash generation and trades

[TomK]

Currently rolling with a midfield of Fyfe, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky, Libba, Crouch Bros, Mills. Stupid or not? Three midpricers obviously not ideal but finding it hard to leave any out.

[Jackross10]

unsure where to post, although one who is looking really nice, Brendan Ah Chee, finished the season with 128, 107, 93 and 88. At 330k probably a bit much but really think he will go well this year. Sneaky pod, playing very well tonight

[Keeper27]

unsure where to post, although one who is looking really nice, Brendan Ah Chee, finished the season with 128, 107, 93 and 88. At 330k probably a bit much but really think he will go well this year. Sneaky pod, playing very well tonight

how confident are you that he'll play every game?? can score though.

[Jackross10]

unsure where to post, although one who is looking really nice, Brendan Ah Chee, finished the season with 128, 107, 93 and 88. At 330k probably a bit much but really think he will go well this year. Sneaky pod, playing very well tonight

how confident are you that he'll play every game?? can score though.

i would be super confident after tonight, although highly doubt i will start him, just throwing names around

[Keeper27]

unsure where to post, although one who is looking really nice, Brendan Ah Chee, finished the season with 128, 107, 93 and 88. At 330k probably a bit much but really think he will go well this year. Sneaky pod, playing very well tonight

how confident are you that he'll play every game?? can score though.

i would be super confident after tonight, although highly doubt i will start him, just throwing names around

fair call, definitely can score. avg 104 the last 4 full games last year.
I don't think he'll avg that but mid to high 80's Is realistic and he'll make some coin too.

[Holz]

Is anyone considering starting with a weaker midfield to strengthen and balance the other lines?

I've seen a lot of coaches with the combination of Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Pendles and Rockliff, but this is how I've structured mine:

Ablett, Gray, JPK, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Oliver, then cheaper rookies.

This lets me have set and forget rucks, including Goldstein, then 4 premium forwards and backs.

Anyone else thinking along this line? If Ablett averages 125+, Rockliff around 115-120, Gray and JPK both 115, and Libba 105-110, the money saved allows for a more balanced side.

I dont really like the backline forward premos though thats the issue and i like the cheap options.

If we compare my starting midfield to yours its

Pendles Danger Fyfe Crouch v Gray JPK Oliver Cheapie.

117 120 125 90 v 110 112 70 65

452 v 357 = 95 point gain

I have goldy nn in the ruck so the points need to be made up in the other lines.

not sure it can be done.

That's a fair comparison Holz, I assume that means you're starting with Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills? Which is about as strong as it can get.

I suppose it comes down to whether that 95 can be made up by going a premium in the forward line over Milera, Cockatoo, Bennedy, etc, and picking a more proven player in defence over Sheridan, Lonergan, etc

Yep thats my midfield.

for the record I now have 3 forward premos and are going cheap down back.

[Holz]

Is anyone considering starting with a weaker midfield to strengthen and balance the other lines?

I've seen a lot of coaches with the combination of Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Pendles and Rockliff, but this is how I've structured mine:

Ablett, Gray, JPK, Rockliff, Liberatore, Mills, Oliver, then cheaper rookies.

This lets me have set and forget rucks, including Goldstein, then 4 premium forwards and backs.

Anyone else thinking along this line? If Ablett averages 125+, Rockliff around 115-120, Gray and JPK both 115, and Libba 105-110, the money saved allows for a more balanced side.

I dont really like the backline forward premos though thats the issue and i like the cheap options.

If we compare my starting midfield to yours its

Pendles Danger Fyfe Crouch v Gray JPK Oliver Cheapie.

117 120 125 90 v 110 112 70 65

452 v 357 = 95 point gain

I have goldy nn in the ruck so the points need to be made up in the other lines.

not sure it can be done.

That's a fair comparison Holz, I assume that means you're starting with Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Mills? Which is about as strong as it can get.

I suppose it comes down to whether that 95 can be made up by going a premium in the forward line over Milera, Cockatoo, Bennedy, etc, and picking a more proven player in defence over Sheridan, Lonergan, etc

Dont forget to factor in cash generation and trades

exactly i hope to make plenty of cash these are the numbers by round 10.

gray jpk dont make any cash as you dont trade them out.

ill trade out crouch so he will make me cash.

Harwood Weits at D3 D4 will make about 150k between them.
My extra forward rookie will make about 100-150k.

so that means Oliver Cheapie need to make 250-300k

will be ball park.

[almonds]

Can anyone warrant picking Patty Cripps, kids so good?

[The_Captain]

Can anyone warrant picking Patty Cripps, kids so good?

Yeah, along with hannabery too. CHuck in Tom mitchall and harry Cunningham too. Bryce gibbs would fit nicely. Why wont they all fit :(

[tbagrocks]

Can anyone warrant picking Patty Cripps, kids so good?

Lock, at the price why the hell not!

[Keeper27]

Can anyone warrant picking Patty Cripps, kids so good?

Lock, at the price why the hell not!

@ $519K?? he's a lock?? i reckon he can jump to 105. is that enough for a spot on your finishing side, because a "Keeper" is what you're paying for at that price.

you spend $31K more and start Rocky, who is more likely to go 115+

[_wato]

Parker is out. Unfortunately I have a huge problem with how the game seemed to pan out tonight for the Swans. They had a load of blokes who all scored very similarly and took a consistent load of points from one another. If that wasn't worry enough, they won the game yet only two blokes tonned up, with Hanners a distant first. Think this could be a common theme for them. Way too happy to share the load and not enough hunger to absolutely be an animal like Hanners.

Yes he tonned up in the first two NAB games but NAB 3 is the game to watch, and what I'm more worried about is the 70's and 80's that come with a win where the Swans have no standouts. The amount of time he spends up forward worries me too because he's so good up there. Yes he attended the equal first amount of centre bounces for the Swans tonight, but if he doesn't win it from the contest it's what happens after that they leads me to raise questions. And for this reason, I have decided to finally upgrade to Danger, whom I have no questions over.

Am I being naive and crazy? If you ramble about 'Nab Nab blah blah don't count' then you can stick it. Want an honest opinion.

[Mat0369]

I think you're being naive to think that a guy playing in his third pre-season game is going to try and come out and play a brutal brand of football (which he does) when he is so close to the season proper. Look at what happened with Richmond last night and the injuries. It was more about getting the structures right and tinkering with the rotations. To be honest, I think both teams tonight tried to figure out the best way to rotate players as if this was a proper game so when it comes to it players know where they have to go for a rest if they don't come off.

[Gigantor]

Yeah this is the problem with the Sydney mid fielders, JPK, Hanners, Tmitch, Parker and Jack are all capable of averaging 100+ together in one season but which ones are going to go 100 and which ones are going 110+?

Hanners and Tmitch looked hungry tonight, Parker and JPK not so much and as you said spent time forward.

But I think maybe it is a bit of a knee jerk to write off Parker from one game. When the real stuff starts there won't be all the rookies that played tonight and all the mids will be cycling through the forward line

I honestly believe Parkers starting price is as low as it will be for a number of years (unless a serious injury occurs) so that is why I'm leaving him at M5 for the time being.

Worst case he doesn't improve, averages 100 and sits at M8, best case he goes 110+.

I also have Shaw at D1 and am really keen on leaving him there which is also influencing my decision.