Premium Midfield Conundrum

Started by JMAN23, February 14, 2016, 04:31:09 PM

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eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 22, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 22, 2016, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 04:02:59 PM
That could happen whether you pick 4 or 5 mids, having a vacancy in the mids doesn't guarantee much at all.

But if you pick all of Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Rocky and mid X here you're increasing the odds of picking the one or two flops. While I get what you're saying in that it can happen regardless, minimising the total number of selections also minimises the risk.

I reckon a chance of a flop in the midfield is more remote than a flop in defence or attack. If you look at the premos from last year - Brodie Smith & Malceski being great examples, the fall from the perch can be a lot greater. Selwood had a very unSelwood like year but he was still ok enough to hold the 22 rounds. Those running with the above two were pulverised, me included, so I think it's more prudent to keep an open field in defence.

As for the mid rookies, I'm struggling to even fill 3 spots let alone 4 or 5. Those who want to spend 200k can do so, I'll be making more money on my 117k rookies in defence and making the dough much quicker.

If they play .... Mills will play .... I'm undecided at this point so will wait for the round 1 teams

Mills will play but not in the midfield, not for me this year.

Polkinghorne should get some opportunities, hopefully he gets them early.

MacPherson looked great and racked up 102 SC point, could be a likely starter.

Mathieson is a good player but still question marks over his ability to complete game, I will pick only on the condition I see him pay at least 80% of a game.

Menegola should get a few early games if the Selwoods are out

Gore looked good but there's a huge queue

Petracca is unlkely to get up for round 1.

Dunkley is a slight chance but how many of his type at the Dogs?

Jansen/Keays probably not ready at this stage

The question you have to ask is who are you willing to play at M7 & M8?

Yeah my m8 could be Crouch or mills

RaisyDaisy

Crouch at M7, Gresham/Trengove at M8 and 123k rookies on the bench

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
Crouch at M7, Gresham/Trengove at M8 and 123k rookies on the bench

Don't like Gresham on the field, played most of the practice match and didn't score well. As for Trengove, still a long way to go before he's ready for seniors, I think he'll be eased in.

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
Crouch at M7, Gresham/Trengove at M8 and 123k rookies on the bench

Don't like Gresham on the field, played most of the practice match and didn't score well. As for Trengove, still a long way to go before he's ready for seniors, I think he'll be eased in.

We only saw 1 game so not taking him out of my side yet ,,, but will be watching Gresham very closely.
Liked Mathieson n I think he should play from what I saw.
Looking forward to seeing menegola and polkinghorne

Bully

Quote from: eaglesman on February 22, 2016, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
Crouch at M7, Gresham/Trengove at M8 and 123k rookies on the bench

Don't like Gresham on the field, played most of the practice match and didn't score well. As for Trengove, still a long way to go before he's ready for seniors, I think he'll be eased in.

We only saw 1 game so not taking him out of my side yet ,,, but will be watching Gresham very closely.
Liked Mathieson n I think he should play from what I saw.
Looking forward to seeing menegola and polkinghorne

Another smokey is Marcon, may have just edged out Townsend for the inside mid role. Still rookie listed but looked very comfortable at the highest level.

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 22, 2016, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
Crouch at M7, Gresham/Trengove at M8 and 123k rookies on the bench

Don't like Gresham on the field, played most of the practice match and didn't score well. As for Trengove, still a long way to go before he's ready for seniors, I think he'll be eased in.

We only saw 1 game so not taking him out of my side yet ,,, but will be watching Gresham very closely.
Liked Mathieson n I think he should play from what I saw.
Looking forward to seeing menegola and polkinghorne

Another smokey is Marcon, may have just edged out Townsend for the inside mid role. Still rookie listed but looked very comfortable at the highest level.

If upgraded he is in. Got better as game went on I thought.

RaisyDaisy

Lol, one game and you're already ruling out Gresham? Lol come on Bully. He scored 71 which isn't bad, but I've had him since day dot because he's a gun and should get plenty of games and most importantly make cash. Yours talking up Milera, well Gresham is my guy ;)

I had Marcon at m11 for months but took him out just to make sure I'm not restricted to a 102k rookie, but it he plays then he's in

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2016, 09:28:56 PM
Lol, one game and you're already ruling out Gresham? Lol come on Bully. He scored 71 which isn't bad, but I've had him since day dot because he's a gun and should get plenty of games and most importantly make cash. Yours talking up Milera, well Gresham is my guy ;)

Not ruling him out from my side but I would be very hesitant to play him on the field, that's my point. Nothing wrong with him on the bench.

Bully

Quote from: MC on February 14, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
I honestly thought Danger and Fyfe would be picked less often than that. They both enter the season with quite high risk attached - Fyfe top priced mid, some injury concerns around his foot...
- Danger priced at career-high numbers, heading to a new team leaves his scoring potential a relative unknown...

I guess though quite a lot of inexperienced coaches might pick them, combined with some experienced coaches who will take the risk! Both excellent scorers, though I can't fit them into my squad just yet

When has Fyfe not had injury concerns? Every year it happens and at least for the last couple, he blasts a 120 average for the season, there are very few players who have achieved this feat. The risk is not having him.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 09:37:26 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 22, 2016, 09:28:56 PM
Lol, one game and you're already ruling out Gresham? Lol come on Bully. He scored 71 which isn't bad, but I've had him since day dot because he's a gun and should get plenty of games and most importantly make cash. Yours talking up Milera, well Gresham is my guy ;)

Not ruling him out from my side but I would be very hesitant to play him on the field, that's my point. Nothing wrong with him on the bench.

Well of course, we have no idea who's good enough to field just yet. Point I was making is that he's one of my 4 rookies and the most expensive

Keeper27

Is it crazy of me to wanna start jpk ahead of pendles.
My other 3 premo mids are fyfe/Gazza/rocky

jvalles69

Quote from: Keeper27 on February 24, 2016, 06:39:08 PM
Is it crazy of me to wanna start jpk ahead of pendles.
My other 3 premo mids are fyfe/Gazza/rocky

Nope, I have Fyfe, Gazz, Rocky, Pendles and JPK.  ;D

MC

Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: MC on February 14, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
I honestly thought Danger and Fyfe would be picked less often than that. They both enter the season with quite high risk attached - Fyfe top priced mid, some injury concerns around his foot...
- Danger priced at career-high numbers, heading to a new team leaves his scoring potential a relative unknown...

I guess though quite a lot of inexperienced coaches might pick them, combined with some experienced coaches who will take the risk! Both excellent scorers, though I can't fit them into my squad just yet

When has Fyfe not had injury concerns? Every year it happens and at least for the last couple, he blasts a 120 average for the season, there are very few players who have achieved this feat. The risk is not having him.

Him missing 4 games each year is what makes the difference. If we factor in a 70-average for the rookie that replaces him (possibly too optimistic depending on the time of year) it gives him a 22-game average of 110...

18 x 120 = 2160
4 x 70 = 280
2440 (div by) 22 = 110.9

His price tag of 670k for that average of 110 isn't good enough for me to risk starting him. 

enzedder

Quote from: MC on February 24, 2016, 07:16:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 22, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: MC on February 14, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
I honestly thought Danger and Fyfe would be picked less often than that. They both enter the season with quite high risk attached - Fyfe top priced mid, some injury concerns around his foot...
- Danger priced at career-high numbers, heading to a new team leaves his scoring potential a relative unknown...

I guess though quite a lot of inexperienced coaches might pick them, combined with some experienced coaches who will take the risk! Both excellent scorers, though I can't fit them into my squad just yet

When has Fyfe not had injury concerns? Every year it happens and at least for the last couple, he blasts a 120 average for the season, there are very few players who have achieved this feat. The risk is not having him.

Him missing 4 games each year is what makes the difference. If we factor in a 70-average for the rookie that replaces him (possibly too optimistic depending on the time of year) it gives him a 22-game average of 110...

18 x 120 = 2160
4 x 70 = 280
2440 (div by) 22 = 110.9

His price tag of 670k for that average of 110 isn't good enough for me to risk starting him.
Really good point you make.
I'm not starting him due to price. Injury doubt makes him less attractive at that price. Upgrade target for me.

Kyowa

Have made the mistake of not starting with Gazz in the past. Your opposition has him as Captain and before you know it, you are 2 nil down.