Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?

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Holz

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 09, 2016, 11:00:01 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 09, 2016, 10:57:18 PM
LOL ok Holz

Weitering looks a great pick, but to say Hall isn't, or you don't need him - seriously lol

I'd be cut too if I didn't have him :P
Weitering looks good, but is just as likely to go utterly missing one week and go sub 40.

Hall is a great pick as far as I've seen, although I first saw him as fools gold.He might have a couple of off games, but I still see a 95 average which is top 6.

FTR Holz I think having Weitering is less important than Hall.  ;)

thats last call was silly.

Hall is almost premium priced and is scoring well for a premium at the moment.

Weits is an expensive rookie playing in the much harsher defense and outscoring most premos.

geez the hype on aaron hall is amazing. I people are forgetting he is 420k.

he wasnt 300k this wasnt some amazing pick up.

funny thing is he is only very marginally outscoring what i predicted he would in round 1 and 3. I was saying 110 average from these two games and still didnt pick him.

Mat0369

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 09, 2016, 11:06:57 PM
I went for Dangerfield, hoping he can deliver me a massive one tomorrow!

He is the other one I was considering but I went for Robbie at a cheaper price hoping he could provide a good POD. The main reason was I don't think the Cats will have ruck supremacy again like they did in round 1 going against Pittonet or whatever his name is. That helped get Danger off the leash and he did as he pleased.

Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:07:13 PM
ill just wait my time.

he certainly isnt a must have, the only way you need him is if he averages close to 110.

its not like this is defence where there are no decent players.

Kennedy is going 110 - at 180k
Wells is going 110 - at 220k
Adams is going 109 - at 120k
Kerridge a decent 87 - at 120k

plenty of forwards.

Buddy is 30k more going 105.

Gunston is going 110


my only bad call up front (at this stage and i stress at this stage) is not missing hall its barlow. Who looks good tonight, so if he keep this role he will be ok.

This is the one that still stings for me.....

Holz

Quote from: fanTCfool on April 09, 2016, 10:58:59 PM
Did you have Rocky Holz? Who did you trade him to?
I would have thought Rocky to Hall would be more urgent than Rocky to Parker or so?

I went rocky to parker.

there are soo many good rookies up front. look at it this way hall is going 120 and there are 3 guys wihtihin that prcied at 230k or less.

Parker is going what 50 points above the next best rookie in his postion?


Parker will smash hall over a season, ill happily pay an extra 110k for the big big point difference.

Torpedo10

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 09, 2016, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 09, 2016, 11:06:57 PM
I went for Dangerfield, hoping he can deliver me a massive one tomorrow!

He is the other one I was considering but I went for Robbie at a cheaper price hoping he could provide a good POD. The main reason was I don't think the Cats will have ruck supremacy again like they did in round 1 going against Pittonet or whatever his name is. That helped get Danger off the leash and he did as he pleased.

Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:07:13 PM
ill just wait my time.

he certainly isnt a must have, the only way you need him is if he averages close to 110.

its not like this is defence where there are no decent players.

Kennedy is going 110 - at 180k
Wells is going 110 - at 220k
Adams is going 109 - at 120k
Kerridge a decent 87 - at 120k

plenty of forwards.

Buddy is 30k more going 105.

Gunston is going 110


my only bad call up front (at this stage and i stress at this stage) is not missing hall its barlow. Who looks good tonight, so if he keep this role he will be ok.

This is the one that still stings for me.....

I didn't make any bad calls in the Fwds either, but I still think that the extra 100k for Weitering is unnecessary, it helps but it isn't crucial.

I figured Danger will be top 5 for sure, whereas I see Gray trailing off as Lobbe slowly lacks full fitness go ruck out a whole season.

I have faith in Zac Smith.

RaisyDaisy

Holz, nobody is saying he is a must have, or that he will average 110

I just don't get why you can't acknowledge that at his price he has been fantastic. It's like your ego can't admit that you may just be wrong this time

Who cares if Parker is 110k more? You need 6 prem forwards, and Hall at his price was just as much a bargain as Parker at his price

Surely you wish you had him in your side? I won't believe you if say you don't. He's been excellent and a great pick, and that's the bottom line

Mat0369

Lobbe has been horrible yet Gray has still been killing it though.

Also Weits is a god, take that back!

Bully

Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 09, 2016, 10:58:59 PM
Did you have Rocky Holz? Who did you trade him to?
I would have thought Rocky to Hall would be more urgent than Rocky to Parker or so?

I went rocky to parker.

there are soo many good rookies up front. look at it this way hall is going 120 and there are 3 guys wihtihin that prcied at 230k or less.

Parker is going what 50 points above the next best rookie in his postion?


Parker will smash hall over a season, ill happily pay an extra 110k for the big big point difference.

Hall is playing in my mids at present so that argument is flawed. In due course he will be switched but he's producing just as much as Parker etc.

Torpedo10

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 09, 2016, 11:17:39 PM
Lobbe has been horrible yet Gray has still been killing it though.

Also Weits is a god, take that back!
Carlton saviour, hey?

Where have I heard that before?  ;)

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 09, 2016, 11:16:18 PM
Holz, nobody is saying he is a must have, or that he will average 110

I just don't get why you can't acknowledge that at his price he has been fantastic. It's like your ego can't admit that you may just be wrong this time

Who cares if Parker is 110k more? You need 6 prem forwards, and Hall at his price was just as much a bargain as Parker at his price

Surely you wish you had him in your side? I won't believe you if say you don't. He's been excellent and a great pick, and that's the bottom line

he has been a good pick, I would like him in my side if i picked him over barlow. Actually for me it was Ben Kennedy v Aaron Hall so on that im pretty happy with how things panned out.

picking hall to start the season was a good move as he was an underpriced premo.

I dont see him being better then other elite forwards over the course of the season.

I said he could go 100+ over the first 8-10 weeks but would finish sub 95. I still think thats the case and i think trading him in this week (which some will do) is a very poor move.

he was a good pick but people need to calm down, let him average 100+ for the year then you can say you were correct.

kilbluff1985

could sit here all day making counter arguments to all of Holz points but i cbf either way this thread is funny

Torpedo10

Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 09, 2016, 11:16:18 PM
Holz, nobody is saying he is a must have, or that he will average 110

I just don't get why you can't acknowledge that at his price he has been fantastic. It's like your ego can't admit that you may just be wrong this time

Who cares if Parker is 110k more? You need 6 prem forwards, and Hall at his price was just as much a bargain as Parker at his price

Surely you wish you had him in your side? I won't believe you if say you don't. He's been excellent and a great pick, and that's the bottom line

he has been a good pick, I would like him in my side if i picked him over barlow. Actually for me it was Ben Kennedy v Aaron Hall so on that im pretty happy with how things panned out.

picking hall to start the season was a good move as he was an underpriced premo.

I dont see him being better then other elite forwards over the course of the season.

I said he could go 100+ over the first 8-10 weeks but would finish sub 95. I still think thats the case and i think trading him in this week (which some will do) is a very poor move.

he was a good pick but people need to calm down, let him average 100+ for the year then you can say you were correct.
This I do agree with, you either had him from the start or he comes in as a luxury at the end of the season if you're in contention.

Bully

Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 09, 2016, 11:24:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 09, 2016, 11:16:18 PM
Holz, nobody is saying he is a must have, or that he will average 110

I just don't get why you can't acknowledge that at his price he has been fantastic. It's like your ego can't admit that you may just be wrong this time

Who cares if Parker is 110k more? You need 6 prem forwards, and Hall at his price was just as much a bargain as Parker at his price

Surely you wish you had him in your side? I won't believe you if say you don't. He's been excellent and a great pick, and that's the bottom line

he has been a good pick, I would like him in my side if i picked him over barlow. Actually for me it was Ben Kennedy v Aaron Hall so on that im pretty happy with how things panned out.

picking hall to start the season was a good move as he was an underpriced premo.

I dont see him being better then other elite forwards over the course of the season.

I said he could go 100+ over the first 8-10 weeks but would finish sub 95. I still think thats the case and i think trading him in this week (which some will do) is a very poor move.

he was a good pick but people need to calm down, let him average 100+ for the year then you can say you were correct.
This I do agree with, you either had him from the start or he comes in as a luxury at the end of the season if you're in contention.

Simply don't agree with this at all, you pick the form players irrespective of whether you started them at the beginning. As others have pointed out, Hall was cheap due to a slow start last season but he came home like a freight train. How many games does he require before people start taking notice?

Holz

Quote from: Bully on April 09, 2016, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 09, 2016, 10:58:59 PM
Did you have Rocky Holz? Who did you trade him to?
I would have thought Rocky to Hall would be more urgent than Rocky to Parker or so?

I went rocky to parker.

there are soo many good rookies up front. look at it this way hall is going 120 and there are 3 guys wihtihin that prcied at 230k or less.

Parker is going what 50 points above the next best rookie in his postion?


Parker will smash hall over a season, ill happily pay an extra 110k for the big big point difference.

Hall is playing in my mids at present so that argument is flawed. In due course he will be switched but he's producing just as much as Parker etc.

yes at the moment

at the moment GC is undefeated (and will probably be 4-0)

lets see what he goes over the North Geelong Dees Giants Crows Eagles Swans schedule

remember this stat when you wonder why he has slowed down

108 touches over 3 games is amazing. 28 contested is not. You dont get that much uncontested ball when you are losing. You also dont get that much uncontested ball when there are better players then you back in the squad demanding the ball.





Southstorm

Quote from: Bully on April 09, 2016, 11:29:17 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 09, 2016, 11:24:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 09, 2016, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 09, 2016, 11:16:18 PM
Holz, nobody is saying he is a must have, or that he will average 110

I just don't get why you can't acknowledge that at his price he has been fantastic. It's like your ego can't admit that you may just be wrong this time

Who cares if Parker is 110k more? You need 6 prem forwards, and Hall at his price was just as much a bargain as Parker at his price

Surely you wish you had him in your side? I won't believe you if say you don't. He's been excellent and a great pick, and that's the bottom line

he has been a good pick, I would like him in my side if i picked him over barlow. Actually for me it was Ben Kennedy v Aaron Hall so on that im pretty happy with how things panned out.

picking hall to start the season was a good move as he was an underpriced premo.

I dont see him being better then other elite forwards over the course of the season.

I said he could go 100+ over the first 8-10 weeks but would finish sub 95. I still think thats the case and i think trading him in this week (which some will do) is a very poor move.

he was a good pick but people need to calm down, let him average 100+ for the year then you can say you were correct.
This I do agree with, you either had him from the start or he comes in as a luxury at the end of the season if you're in contention.

Simply don't agree with this at all, you pick the form players irrespective of whether you started them at the beginning. As others have pointed out, Hall was cheap due to a slow start last season but he came home like a freight train. How many games does he require before people start taking notice?
So what do people do?

Do they sideways Barlow? Do they downtrade a premium and upgrade a rookie? At 480k, he's not going to be easy to get in. I've missed him and I'm trying to come to peace with that.

crowls

Quote from: _wato on April 07, 2016, 10:06:31 AM
Dusty, Bud, Dahl, Zorko, Gunston, Higgins, Joey, Chad I can see doing better than him. And there's potential for others.

It's a tough call mate. And that's the hardest thing, do I chase the pack and pick him or do I follow everyone who started him, OR do I decide to miss him altogether. I cannot decide.
Wato did you get him in?    be expensive in points and cash if you dont have him soon