Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?

[js19]

"Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?"

A: Stupidly good

Drop mike

/thread

[Holz]

Taking Parker for 110k more might be OK now, but eventually you'll need 6 prem forwards, and Hall will be one I'd want and I can't see him ever being cheaper

yep and if you want hall now is the time to get him.

at the moment we have Kerridge 96 Wells 110 Kennedy 110 Adams 109 Papely 107. Im not saying they will keep up anywhere close to these numbers but i got to back in the forward rookies.

I have Franklin as my only premo and my f6 is averaging 96.

inversely how are the mid rookies going?

there are also plenty of forward options who can match or beat hall.

Gunston
Zorko
Martin
Deledio
Jroo
Higgins
Dahlhous

Hall is cheaper then all of them and he can match or beat some of them

This. Hall will outscore Gunston, jroo, higgins. Pribably outscore Zorko. Similar to Dahl, behind Martin and Deledio is injured. Hall also the cheapest... Isee Hall being the 3-8th best scoring fwd and he isnt the cheapest and fit.

Gunston is my unique and have kept quiet on him but.

He played with a broken hand last year remove those 4 games (which he was still decent) and he averaged 103.

he is averaging the year with 110 with a tough loss to the cats and playing the runners up off last years grand final.

i would bank my money on Gunston

[kilbluff1985]

"Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?"

A: Stupidly good

Drop mike

/thread

[Holz]

"Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?"

A: Stupidly good

Drop mike

/thread

to be fair he is a stupid pick at F4 or F5 with kerridge kommer wells adams papely. He is an ok F2 though

[js19]

"Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?"

A: Stupidly good

Drop mike

/thread

to be fair he is a stupid pick at F4 or F5 with kerridge kommer wells adams papely. He is an ok F2 though

Haha, touché!

Can't argue with that seems he's now my F1...

[spudaroos]

Taking Parker for 110k more might be OK now, but eventually you'll need 6 prem forwards, and Hall will be one I'd want and I can't see him ever being cheaper

yep and if you want hall now is the time to get him.

at the moment we have Kerridge 96 Wells 110 Kennedy 110 Adams 109 Papely 107. Im not saying they will keep up anywhere close to these numbers but i got to back in the forward rookies.

I have Franklin as my only premo and my f6 is averaging 96.

inversely how are the mid rookies going?

there are also plenty of forward options who can match or beat hall.

Gunston
Zorko
Martin
Deledio
Jroo
Higgins
Dahlhous

Hall is cheaper then all of them and he can match or beat some of them

This. Hall will outscore Gunston, jroo, higgins. Pribably outscore Zorko. Similar to Dahl, behind Martin and Deledio is injured. Hall also the cheapest... Isee Hall being the 3-8th best scoring fwd and he isnt the cheapest and fit.

Gunston is my unique and have kept quiet on him but.

He played with a broken hand last year remove those 4 games (which he was still decent) and he averaged 103.

he is averaging the year with 110 with a tough loss to the cats and playing the runners up off last years grand final.

i would bank my money on Gunston

I feel like Gunston is a consistent scorer but doesn't bring the big big scores too often, Hall seems like the type who threatens big scores, same with Zorko. Just based off their style of play.

[_wato]

I know it's already been said but the thing about Hall that I don't like is that he needs so much uncontested ball to score well. He is  a huge uncontested player atm (52 of 68 have been uncontested) which gifts him the ability to gain all the marks (up 4.5 per game), effective disposals (upto 80% from 69%), inside 50's leading to score assists (up 2) etc to boost his score so high. Now I'd love to choose him because I can see him scoring 100's for both of the next two weeks and he is priced at only $428k which is a steal. However I am one for not choosing a player based off his opposition for the coming week and benefitting from a good score followed but some mediocre scores.

If I compare his UP's from this year to last, he is up from 26 to 41%, and means he's playing more of an outside role for sure. When O'Meara and Swallow inevitably come back, will this increase further? It worries me for sure that he isn't playing an inside role as to the extent he was last year and they've only gained Prestia and Ablett back. What I would love to see is him score well against some tough opposition. And I won't take last years scores into account because he was the only fit mid in the team pretty much.

After Blues, Lions, they have North, Cats, Dees, Giants, Crows, Eagles, Swans, Tiges and Hawks. Mighty tough. Teams with much better structure, much better game plans, and much better knowledge to not let a bloke gather 36 and 32 touches for returns of only 120's. What does this tell you? I have no idea if I want him or not but his scores are so so so hard to ignore given his price.

Edit: Yes it is a very small sample size but the Suns are 2-0 for the first time in their history. They will cop losses, and some heavy losses, and what happens to Hall then with his uncontested play and outside run capacity then?

[RaisyDaisy]

_wato, what forwards do you think will be better than him this year?

I'd be excluding Lids because he won't play anywhere near 22 games. Scrap Bennell too

The comments you make are fair, but I feel like you might be over analysing this too much, but that's what experienced coaches tend to do

Sometimes you just need to make a call on face value. I don't really care how he gets the pill - he's getting it and is now one of their most important players

No ones expecting 120+ every week, but at 428K I would be staggered if he doesn't finish the season averaging 90+, and with his ceiling and ability it's simply a no brainer for me, but I'm someone who started him

[_wato]

Dusty, Bud, Dahl, Zorko, Gunston, Higgins, Joey, Chad I can see doing better than him. And there's potential for others.

It's a tough call mate. And that's the hardest thing, do I chase the pack and pick him or do I follow everyone who started him, OR do I decide to miss him altogether. I cannot decide.

[Holz]

Taking Parker for 110k more might be OK now, but eventually you'll need 6 prem forwards, and Hall will be one I'd want and I can't see him ever being cheaper

yep and if you want hall now is the time to get him.

at the moment we have Kerridge 96 Wells 110 Kennedy 110 Adams 109 Papely 107. Im not saying they will keep up anywhere close to these numbers but i got to back in the forward rookies.

I have Franklin as my only premo and my f6 is averaging 96.

inversely how are the mid rookies going?

there are also plenty of forward options who can match or beat hall.

Gunston
Zorko
Martin
Deledio
Jroo
Higgins
Dahlhous

Hall is cheaper then all of them and he can match or beat some of them

This. Hall will outscore Gunston, jroo, higgins. Pribably outscore Zorko. Similar to Dahl, behind Martin and Deledio is injured. Hall also the cheapest... Isee Hall being the 3-8th best scoring fwd and he isnt the cheapest and fit.

Gunston is my unique and have kept quiet on him but.

He played with a broken hand last year remove those 4 games (which he was still decent) and he averaged 103.

he is averaging the year with 110 with a tough loss to the cats and playing the runners up off last years grand final.

i would bank my money on Gunston

I feel like Gunston is a consistent scorer but doesn't bring the big big scores too often, Hall seems like the type who threatens big scores, same with Zorko. Just based off their style of play.

that all means Gunston doesnt bring the low scores too often.

[sammy123]

hard to see him being top 6 but definately too 10 with a 90-95 av

[Colley Dogs]

Just pissing myself laughing at those who're still coming up with reasons to not fast track Hall into their side. How much more evidence do you need? Three season's worth?

There are so many marginal call players, but this guy is a lock, lock, lock! I'm sure those who don't have him will say it's only Carlton. Just like they said it was only the Bombers, or an off-form Freo away from home. Or that it was only NAB. Or that the last 8 rounds of season 2015 are meaningless. Or that Swallow and O'Meara aren't back yet. He may not end up being the top Forward in the comp, but to suggest he won't be Top 6 (injuries permitting) is ludicrous.

The more you disagree with me, the happier I am.

(Next season there will be a long thread over whether he is overpriced @ 560K. And even then, I will pick him).

[Southstorm]

Just pissing myself laughing at those who're still coming up with reasons to not fast track Hall into their side. How much more evidence do you need? Three season's worth?

There are so many marginal call players, but this guy is a lock, lock, lock! I'm sure those who don't have him will say it's only Carlton. Just like they said it was only the Bombers, or an off-form Freo away from home. Or that it was only NAB. Or that the last 8 rounds of season 2015 are meaningless. Or that Swallow and O'Meara aren't back yet. He may not end up being the top Forward in the comp, but to suggest he won't be Top 6 (injuries permitting) is ludicrous.

The more you disagree with me, the happier I am.

(Next season there will be a long thread over whether he is overpriced @ 560K. And even then, I will pick him).

If you didn't start him, no point fast tracking. You can get him now at $420 or at $520k later in the upgrades. That's a loss of $100k which is almost nothing over the course of the season. Swapping a performing premium to a better performing premium is just poor supercoach strategy and many who won't get him will have other, more pressing player concerns that need attending.

Seriously, if you don't have him, don't flower your whole structure just to get him. Bennedy and Wells are far more important, as are good rookies.

[Colley Dogs]

Just pissing myself laughing at those who're still coming up with reasons to not fast track Hall into their side. How much more evidence do you need? Three season's worth?

There are so many marginal call players, but this guy is a lock, lock, lock! I'm sure those who don't have him will say it's only Carlton. Just like they said it was only the Bombers, or an off-form Freo away from home. Or that it was only NAB. Or that the last 8 rounds of season 2015 are meaningless. Or that Swallow and O'Meara aren't back yet. He may not end up being the top Forward in the comp, but to suggest he won't be Top 6 (injuries permitting) is ludicrous.

The more you disagree with me, the happier I am.

(Next season there will be a long thread over whether he is overpriced @ 560K. And even then, I will pick him).

If you didn't start him, no point fast tracking. You can get him now at $420 or at $520k later in the upgrades. That's a loss of $100k which is almost nothing over the course of the season. Swapping a performing premium to a better performing premium is just poor supercoach strategy and many who won't get him will have other, more pressing player concerns that need attending.

Seriously, if you don't have him, don't flower your whole structure just to get him. Bennedy and Wells are far more important, as are good rookies.

There are very few good rookies about (as Papley, Hewitt, and Mills demonstrated today... I have two of these btw). And if you don't already have Kennedy & Wells... and Hall... it's going to be a long season.

My team is far from perfect... but I was talked out of Parker and into Rockliff on these forums (which I obeyed); and I was talked out of Hall and into players more 'proven' (which I ignored).

The truth is... nobody knows.

My advice: go with your gut.

[RaisyDaisy]

Thanks to the people who still don't have him  ;D