Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?

[ben_020285]

I wouldn't even say he's a good POD. I've always thought the point of a POD was to have a unique player who scores better than an alternative common player who everybody has. If the POD doesn't score as well compared to the alternative, it's a pointless exercise.

If a guy who averaged 113 in the last 7 games of last season isn't worth considering as a POD then no one is.

As I said I'm not picking him but IMO your comment is ridiculous.

This isn't about what he scored, this is about what he will score. I cannot see him averaging anywhere near 113 per game in a much more full Suns team, nor can I see him being a good investment at his list price. Instead of backing up the season end, he could just as easily revert to the sort of form which was seen early and midway through the season.

Nobody is expecting him to average 113. He only needs to average low 90's to be a good pick which I think he is a big chance of doing.

If you don't think that then don't pick him, but understand that others think he will and the reasoning is sound.

[batt]

Hall is too expensive for F5 and even F4 I reckon.

Agree, that's why I have him at F2.

[Keeper27]

Hall is too expensive for F5 and even F4 I reckon.

Agree, that's why I have him at F2.

F2?? isnt that leaving your FWD line a bit exposed??

[Hippo]

All over him like a fat kid on cake

[eaglesman]

Hall is clearly best 22 for the Suns when they are fully fit. The stats from the last NAB game show he was at the Centre bounces more than any other suns player. They wouldn't play him there that often unless he was going to start in the mids come round 1.

With the problems with Swallow, JOM, Bennell leaving the club and potentially also Prestia and Ablett maybe having injury concerns he will have IMO plenty of midfield/wing time.

Whilst I am not going to select him I can concede that there is merit in selecting him. He is DPP and has the runs on the board in the 2nd half of last year when a chunk of the other mids were out that he can score well. Has elite pace and is a decent user of the ball. Will only improve with opportunities.

NAB 3 on Friday at Metricon Stadium will be intriguing. Apart from Ablett and injured players I would imagine the suns will pick a full strength side and we will be more the wiser after Friday night.

It was also a NAB game where they were missing a dozen first choice players. For arguments sake, let's look at the Suns best 22 when healthy.

Cannon May Saad
Malcho Thompson KKolo
O'Meara Swallow Jack Martin
Miller Lynch Grant
Hall Wright Day
Nicholls Gaz Prestia
Rischa Rosa Lonergan Harbrow

Guys on the outer include Hallahan, Russell, Shaw, Sexton, Matera, Tape,  Ah Chee,  Currie and a few others. He has a few guys breathing down his neck like Matera etc. Now lets look at the guys currently injured.

O'Meara
Grant
Swallow

All those guys won't be there round 1 or more likely the first 6. That would mean that he has no pressure on his spot which is a plus.

Gaz
Lonergan
Prestia

All might have some doubt round 1 but should either play or be ready round 2. So assuming 4 don't play which are all in the mid rotation, what happens? Hallahan comes on, for mid depth, Touk Miller gets more mid time and Matera comes in as a forward, one of the rebounding defenders gets more time in the midfield and maybe they bring in Tape to free up Cannon? Ah Chee probably also comes in or a forward pressure option and Hall sees a huge increase in midfield minutes.

He might have averaged 113 in 7 games, but he has scored over 100 FIVE times in five years. So those considering him would have to pick him for the season with what he is priced. You've also got Jack Martin in healthy, Rosa added to the sqad, Miller constantly improving and a couple others like Lonergan getting more minutes in the midfield. He'll get time in there, but it won't be for 60% of the game. It will probably be as a high forward flanker similar to what Tom Bell did last year at Carlton

Also I disagree with the elite speed. Guys with elite speed are Hill, Jetta, Garlett. Guys with elite acceleration are Yaz and Danger. I'd say he is quick, but he isn't even the quickest player in their 22.

Mat you always post quality analysis, long winded, but quality. Much better than the unrealistic wishful thinking many post.

Can u see him going 95-100 for the first say 10 rounds?

[batt]

Hall is too expensive for F5 and even F4 I reckon.

Agree, that's why I have him at F2.

F2?? isnt that leaving your FWD line a bit exposed??

Not with all the expensive rookies.  All about stacking that midfield for me.

[Keeper27]

Hall is too expensive for F5 and even F4 I reckon.

Agree, that's why I have him at F2.

F2?? isnt that leaving your FWD line a bit exposed??

Not with all the expensive rookies.  All about stacking that midfield for me.

i get ya, stacked mid & expensive rookies, but i still think he's very weak to be an F2.
i've stacked the mid too (5 uber prems + Libba) and i have Robbo @ F3, and i can fit in Stringer/Hall @ F4

[HotTiges]

F3 Between hall and greene...currently on hall..loving his tackle numbers

[ben_020285]

F3 Between hall and greene...currently on hall..loving his tackle numbers

Same as me. Hoping NAB3 will make it more obvious for us.

[Mat0369]

Why would Rocket play him at more centre bounces than anyone else in the suns side in NAB games if he isn't going to play there round 1? He was 7th in the B+F and their best midfielder IMO in the 2nd half of the season.

All the indications are that he will have more mid time than last season. Was also offered decent money by North Melbourne to leave the club but stayed and signed a 3 year deal. This doesn't say to me he is in the players that are marginal to be selected in the side.

In saying that I have stated 3 times that I will not be selecting him. Need to see him in a full strength side to see what his role is when all the likes of Ablett, Prestia, JOM all play.

NAB 3 will show a bit.

Simply put, pre-season is a time to experiment with certain lineups to see what works and what doesn't. There are countless times players will play in the midfield in pre-season games to get some run in the legs but come the real stuff they see a decline in minutes because first choice players are back and they are needed to fill other positions. I got sucked in with Lumumba last year, trained with the midfield group all pre-season, played a fair bit on the wing in the NAB but then moved to HB out of team need. He will still see some midfield minutes but I expect him to fill more of a Bell/Zorko role as a high half forward flank that allows him to use his speed back towards goal rather then being at the center bounces when the GC get their better players in the team.

In regards to him getting a contract extension, he played well, GC would want to keep him around, however, if he isn't playing well and they are getting some good production at the lower level from highly touted youngsters they won't hesitate to drop him. He isn't Gaz, he doesn't have the runs on the board to say he can turn it around quickly if he has a bad month.

Mat you always post quality analysis, long winded, but quality. Much better than the unrealistic wishful thinking many post.

Can u see him going 95-100 for the first say 10 rounds?

It's possible, but I don't think it will happen. The other thing is if he is scoring like that you probably won't trade him out. At his price you should be thinking will he keep it up for the season? 420k is too much for a stepping stone in the forward line when a full blown premium is 500k option or for an extra 40k you can get Buddy.

[Hippo]

So I take it your going to pick him then 

[piesfan1989]

PASS

I doubt he'll be in the mids regularly when the season proper starts. GC need goals and that's what he can give them so that's what they'll use him for.

It's similar to pendlebury "playing in the backline" this year. Pendles will be a midfielder in 2016, not a rebounding/set-up defender - collingwood already has maynard, marley williams, langdon and oxley to set up play from the backline. He's one of the best mids in the comp - that's where they'll play him

[TexR74]

Swallow gone, Prestia in doubt....
His role will get bigger, Rocket's trying him out in a new improved role in the NAB and he's tearing it up. I'm trying to find a spot for him, I think he's a near lock

[GoLions]

He'll probably start well, then drop once guys like Swallow and JOM return. Too expensive to be used as a stepping stone.

No thanks.

*Could be a really good POD for SC Draft early on though

[Colley Dogs]

NAB 3s reflex move:

Fwds: Barlow; Greene; Hall; Wells; + Rookies.

I don't need Hall & Greene to average 100+ each to make this optimal. I need Barlow + Greene + Hall to gross 300 each week to make this optimal.

Highly likely; Likely; Unlikely; Highly Unlikely?