Is Aaron hall a good/stupid pick for FWD 4 or 5?

[Keeper27]

I reckon Stringer is a better option and cheaper. But thats just me.

[eaglesman]

You lads considering hall as an option? Or just joining in this thread's convo

I have 0 interest. He is fringe in the 22, even though he was playing as a half forward most of his career he doesn't have elite speed, he doesn't have super endurance and with less rotations that will hinder him. Add in the fact he is probably their 10th best midfielder and has hit the ton 5 times in his career, most of those came when the Suns were missing half their team why would you bother at 420k?

This is why fantasy footy is great. You have zero interest and I am very interested. Right now neither of us truly know whether he will be a good pick or not.

Lots of people are all over Aish but I don't see the appeal but that's ok because there's no wrong or right but just opinions based on our own knowledge and views.

I am interested also. But he is a tricky one. I agree with Mat ... He is a bit of a fringe midfielder at the Suns when they have all their lads on the park. But with the doubts over a number of their premo mids ... He could be that player u pick knowing he can really score when given that midfield role and then when the mids return to the side u offload him. (I am not usually a fan of such an option but this bloke really did pump out some scores last season when given that increased midfield opportunity).

That sounds strange but it's like what the dimmawits did with Cloke when he won the whole Comp. started with him then sold him.

[AaronKirk]

Hall is clearly best 22 for the Suns when they are fully fit. The stats from the last NAB game show he was at the Centre bounces more than any other suns player. They wouldn't play him there that often unless he was going to start in the mids come round 1.

With the problems with Swallow, JOM, Bennell leaving the club and potentially also Prestia and Ablett maybe having injury concerns he will have IMO plenty of midfield/wing time.

Whilst I am not going to select him I can concede that there is merit in selecting him. He is DPP and has the runs on the board in the 2nd half of last year when a chunk of the other mids were out that he can score well. Has elite pace and is a decent user of the ball. Will only improve with opportunities.

NAB 3 on Friday at Metricon Stadium will be intriguing. Apart from Ablett and injured players I would imagine the suns will pick a full strength side and we will be more the wiser after Friday night.

[eaglesman]

Hall is clearly best 22 for the Suns when they are fully fit. The stats from the last NAB game show he was at the Centre bounces more than any other suns player. They wouldn't play him there that often unless he was going to start in the mids come round 1.

With the problems with Swallow, JOM, Bennell leaving the club and potentially also Prestia and Ablett maybe having injury concerns he will have IMO plenty of midfield/wing time.

Whilst I am not going to select him I can concede that there is merit in selecting him. He is DPP and has the runs on the board in the 2nd half of last year when a chunk of the other mids were out that he can score well. Has elite pace and is a decent user of the ball. Will only improve with opportunities.

NAB 3 on Friday at Metricon Stadium will be intriguing. Apart from Ablett and injured players I would imagine the suns will pick a full strength side and we will be more the wiser after Friday night.

Absolutely agree he is best 22 ... But in case my comments were not clear ... I just believe he would get less midfield opportunity when all their stars are back possibly hindering his scores later in the season

He could really jump out the blocks early in the season

[AaronKirk]

Hall is clearly best 22 for the Suns when they are fully fit. The stats from the last NAB game show he was at the Centre bounces more than any other suns player. They wouldn't play him there that often unless he was going to start in the mids come round 1.

With the problems with Swallow, JOM, Bennell leaving the club and potentially also Prestia and Ablett maybe having injury concerns he will have IMO plenty of midfield/wing time.

Whilst I am not going to select him I can concede that there is merit in selecting him. He is DPP and has the runs on the board in the 2nd half of last year when a chunk of the other mids were out that he can score well. Has elite pace and is a decent user of the ball. Will only improve with opportunities.

NAB 3 on Friday at Metricon Stadium will be intriguing. Apart from Ablett and injured players I would imagine the suns will pick a full strength side and we will be more the wiser after Friday night.

Absolutely agree he is best 22 ... But in case my comments were not clear ... I just believe he would get less midfield opportunity when all their stars are back possibly hindering his scores later in the season

He could really jump out the blocks early in the season

No doubt about the less mid time if the suns mids were all fully fit. It isn't looking that way though for the early chunk of the season.

As I said I'm not picking him but he is an interesting POD option.

[Southstorm]

I wouldn't even say he's a good POD. I've always thought the point of a POD was to have a unique player who scores better than an alternative common player who everybody has. If the POD doesn't score as well compared to the alternative, it's a pointless exercise.

[tor01doc]

I think this year there seems to be a dearth of mid rookies with really good earning potential.

This makes it more tempting to start with a stronger midfield, leaving less for the other lines.

Hall is too expensive for F5 and even F4 I reckon.

[AaronKirk]

I wouldn't even say he's a good POD. I've always thought the point of a POD was to have a unique player who scores better than an alternative common player who everybody has. If the POD doesn't score as well compared to the alternative, it's a pointless exercise.

If a guy who averaged 113 in the last 7 games of last season isn't worth considering as a POD then no one is.

As I said I'm not picking him but IMO your comment is ridiculous.

[eaglesman]

I wouldn't even say he's a good POD. I've always thought the point of a POD was to have a unique player who scores better than an alternative common player who everybody has. If the POD doesn't score as well compared to the alternative, it's a pointless exercise.

If a guy who averaged 113 in the last 7 games of last season isn't worth considering as a POD then no one is.

As I said I'm not picking him but IMO your comment is ridiculous.

This smells of someone unaware of what he did late last year

[AaronKirk]

I wouldn't even say he's a good POD. I've always thought the point of a POD was to have a unique player who scores better than an alternative common player who everybody has. If the POD doesn't score as well compared to the alternative, it's a pointless exercise.

If a guy who averaged 113 in the last 7 games of last season isn't worth considering as a POD then no one is.

As I said I'm not picking him but IMO your comment is ridiculous.

This smells of someone unaware of what he did late last year

As I live on the Gold Coast and don't have Foxtel at the moment I watch the Gold Coast more than any other team in the comp. We get the Queensland teams shoved down our throats and don't have a choice ha.

[Mat0369]

Hall is clearly best 22 for the Suns when they are fully fit. The stats from the last NAB game show he was at the Centre bounces more than any other suns player. They wouldn't play him there that often unless he was going to start in the mids come round 1.

With the problems with Swallow, JOM, Bennell leaving the club and potentially also Prestia and Ablett maybe having injury concerns he will have IMO plenty of midfield/wing time.

Whilst I am not going to select him I can concede that there is merit in selecting him. He is DPP and has the runs on the board in the 2nd half of last year when a chunk of the other mids were out that he can score well. Has elite pace and is a decent user of the ball. Will only improve with opportunities.

NAB 3 on Friday at Metricon Stadium will be intriguing. Apart from Ablett and injured players I would imagine the suns will pick a full strength side and we will be more the wiser after Friday night.

It was also a NAB game where they were missing a dozen first choice players. For arguments sake, let's look at the Suns best 22 when healthy.

Cannon May Saad
Malcho Thompson KKolo
O'Meara Swallow Jack Martin
Miller Lynch Grant
Hall Wright Day
Nicholls Gaz Prestia
Rischa Rosa Lonergan Harbrow

Guys on the outer include Hallahan, Russell, Shaw, Sexton, Matera, Tape,  Ah Chee,  Currie and a few others. He has a few guys breathing down his neck like Matera etc. Now lets look at the guys currently injured.

O'Meara
Grant
Swallow

All those guys won't be there round 1 or more likely the first 6. That would mean that he has no pressure on his spot which is a plus.

Gaz
Lonergan
Prestia

All might have some doubt round 1 but should either play or be ready round 2. So assuming 4 don't play which are all in the mid rotation, what happens? Hallahan comes on, for mid depth, Touk Miller gets more mid time and Matera comes in as a forward, one of the rebounding defenders gets more time in the midfield and maybe they bring in Tape to free up Cannon? Ah Chee probably also comes in or a forward pressure option and Hall sees a huge increase in midfield minutes.

He might have averaged 113 in 7 games, but he has scored over 100 FIVE times in five years. So those considering him would have to pick him for the season with what he is priced. You've also got Jack Martin in healthy, Rosa added to the sqad, Miller constantly improving and a couple others like Lonergan getting more minutes in the midfield. He'll get time in there, but it won't be for 60% of the game. It will probably be as a high forward flanker similar to what Tom Bell did last year at Carlton

Also I disagree with the elite speed. Guys with elite speed are Hill, Jetta, Garlett. Guys with elite acceleration are Yaz and Danger. I'd say he is quick, but he isn't even the quickest player in their 22.

[AaronKirk]

Hall is clearly best 22 for the Suns when they are fully fit. The stats from the last NAB game show he was at the Centre bounces more than any other suns player. They wouldn't play him there that often unless he was going to start in the mids come round 1.

With the problems with Swallow, JOM, Bennell leaving the club and potentially also Prestia and Ablett maybe having injury concerns he will have IMO plenty of midfield/wing time.

Whilst I am not going to select him I can concede that there is merit in selecting him. He is DPP and has the runs on the board in the 2nd half of last year when a chunk of the other mids were out that he can score well. Has elite pace and is a decent user of the ball. Will only improve with opportunities.

NAB 3 on Friday at Metricon Stadium will be intriguing. Apart from Ablett and injured players I would imagine the suns will pick a full strength side and we will be more the wiser after Friday night.

It was also a NAB game where they were missing a dozen first choice players. For arguments sake, let's look at the Suns best 22 when healthy.

Cannon May Saad
Malcho Thompson KKolo
O'Meara Swallow Jack Martin
Miller Lynch Grant
Hall Wright Day
Nicholls Gaz Prestia
Rischa Rosa Lonergan Harbrow

Guys on the outer include Hallahan, Russell, Shaw, Sexton, Matera, Tape,  Ah Chee,  Currie and a few others. He has a few guys breathing down his neck like Matera etc. Now lets look at the guys currently injured.

O'Meara
Grant
Swallow

All those guys won't be there round 1 or more likely the first 6. That would mean that he has no pressure on his spot which is a plus.

Gaz
Lonergan
Prestia

All might have some doubt round 1 but should either play or be ready round 2. So assuming 4 don't play which are all in the mid rotation, what happens? Hallahan comes on, for mid depth, Touk Miller gets more mid time and Matera comes in as a forward, one of the rebounding defenders gets more time in the midfield and maybe they bring in Tape to free up Cannon? Ah Chee probably also comes in or a forward pressure option and Hall sees a huge increase in midfield minutes.

He might have averaged 113 in 7 games, but he has scored over 100 FIVE times in five years. So those considering him would have to pick him for the season with what he is priced. You've also got Jack Martin in healthy, Rosa added to the sqad, Miller constantly improving and a couple others like Lonergan getting more minutes in the midfield. He'll get time in there, but it won't be for 60% of the game. It will probably be as a high forward flanker similar to what Tom Bell did last year at Carlton

Also I disagree with the elite speed. Guys with elite speed are Hill, Jetta, Garlett. Guys with elite acceleration are Yaz and Danger. I'd say he is quick, but he isn't even the quickest player in their 22.

Why would Rocket play him at more centre bounces than anyone else in the suns side in NAB games if he isn't going to play there round 1? He was 7th in the B+F and their best midfielder IMO in the 2nd half of the season.

All the indications are that he will have more mid time than last season. Was also offered decent money by North Melbourne to leave the club but stayed and signed a 3 year deal. This doesn't say to me he is in the players that are marginal to be selected in the side.

In saying that I have stated 3 times that I will not be selecting him. Need to see him in a full strength side to see what his role is when all the likes of Ablett, Prestia, JOM all play.

NAB 3 will show a bit.

[kilbluff1985]

the interchange cap alone will be why he still gets mid time

[ADEZ]

As a fellow queenslander I to have taken an interest in GC, this is my best team - expect O'Meara to spend quite a bit of time on the flank early in the season as he is managed.

Schade       May         Saad
Kolo       Thompson    Malceski
Rosa        Swallow      Hall
O'Meara    Lynch        Miller
Martin        Day         Wright     
Nicholls     Ablett       Prestia

Lonergan, Rischitelli, Matera, Harbrow

E: Grant/Currie, Sexton/Shaw, Hallahan etc.

With Swallow out Lonergan will assume a starting midfield spot. I'm expecting Lonergan and Hall to both have quite a few midfield minutes along with Touk, Risky, JOM (obviously), and I'm hoping Matera all spending minutes on ball with stints form Kolo/Rosa and hopefully some minutes from Saad.

And Hall is quick, no denying it. His meters gained, goal sense as a mid and speed around the ball will see him get enough midfield minutes for a solid average....

At the end of the day he is not in my team but still under consideration

[Southstorm]

I wouldn't even say he's a good POD. I've always thought the point of a POD was to have a unique player who scores better than an alternative common player who everybody has. If the POD doesn't score as well compared to the alternative, it's a pointless exercise.

If a guy who averaged 113 in the last 7 games of last season isn't worth considering as a POD then no one is.

As I said I'm not picking him but IMO your comment is ridiculous.

This isn't about what he scored, this is about what he will score. I cannot see him averaging anywhere near 113 per game in a much more full Suns team, nor can I see him being a good investment at his list price. Instead of backing up the season end, he could just as easily revert to the sort of form which was seen early and midway through the season.