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Started by Money Shot, January 29, 2016, 06:10:50 PM

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shaker

Is Bennell from WA ? if he is and is back on home ground I expect he is going to flower up big time at some stage lets face it Harley likes to party don't think even Ross the boss will change that .

quinny88

Knowing what Ross is like he will probably turn him into a tagger  ::)


fasttrack13

If bennell lines up round one and you're a fan of him you pick him round 1... All players have the fitness base to play out the game and a guy like bennell can find the ball at will and use it as good as anyone. All the conditioning they're doing with him now is gonna get him ready to play the whole season unlike the system at the suns which we clearly saw last year wasn't effective.

Quote from: Big  Mac on January 29, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
I'm not convinced

Reckon he will only average 90-100. Freo have plenty of SC guns, even Walters is training with the mids. I think Harley spends most of his time around mid to fwd, and won't be on the ball as much

+1

walters + balantyne have both trained in the midfield group in previous years!

StuL

Had him last year, wouldn't have him again. Does that answer the q?

Ricochet

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on January 29, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
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Quote from: Big  Mac on January 29, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
I'm not convinced

Reckon he will only average 90-100. Freo have plenty of SC guns, even Walters is training with the mids. I think Harley spends most of his time around mid to fwd, and won't be on the ball as much

+1

90 - 100 as a fwd is a little tempting  8)

Yeah I don't understand this? If he averages 100 I want him

I'm not paying 550k for a guy who I think will average 90-100 and has had an interrupted preseason as well as coming into a new side

Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow, Neale, Sandilands etc Freo have plenty of SC guns.

Don't know how people think a guy who has never averaged more than 101 and usually plays 15 games a year is going to come into one of the best sides in the comp and start going 105+.

I'm happy to wait and see on him - not start him
Having lots of good SC scorers already doesn't mean much at all

2014:
JPK 114ave
Buddy 99ave
KJack 103ave
Parker 108ave
Hannebery 101ave
McVeigh 104ave
McGlynn 100ave
Malceski 105ave

and that didn't include a gun ruck

If they're good enough they'll score well




In terms of Bennell, I'd expect him to score similar tbh

eaglesman

I don't actually think free have plenty of sc scorers either especially compared to Sydney

GoLions

Quote from: Ricochet on February 01, 2016, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on January 29, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: T Dog on January 29, 2016, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on January 29, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
I'm not convinced

Reckon he will only average 90-100. Freo have plenty of SC guns, even Walters is training with the mids. I think Harley spends most of his time around mid to fwd, and won't be on the ball as much

+1

90 - 100 as a fwd is a little tempting  8)

Yeah I don't understand this? If he averages 100 I want him

I'm not paying 550k for a guy who I think will average 90-100 and has had an interrupted preseason as well as coming into a new side

Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow, Neale, Sandilands etc Freo have plenty of SC guns.

Don't know how people think a guy who has never averaged more than 101 and usually plays 15 games a year is going to come into one of the best sides in the comp and start going 105+.

I'm happy to wait and see on him - not start him
Having lots of good SC scorers already doesn't mean much at all

2014:
JPK 114ave
Buddy 99ave
KJack 103ave
Parker 108ave
Hannebery 101ave
McVeigh 104ave
McGlynn 100ave
Malceski 105ave

and that didn't include a gun ruck

If they're good enough they'll score well




In terms of Bennell, I'd expect him to score similar tbh
You must have this post template saved on your desktop surely by now haha :P
Completely agree though regarding players being good enough to score no matter who else is in the team. In saying that, see Bennell as an upgrade target.

plumdog millionaire

He might be the second best natural talent on the team. The fact that he is in a situation that is much better footy wise gives me confidence he'll be a better and more reliable supercoach option than in previous years, which was pretty good anyway

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Ricochet on February 01, 2016, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on January 29, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: T Dog on January 29, 2016, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on January 29, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
I'm not convinced

Reckon he will only average 90-100. Freo have plenty of SC guns, even Walters is training with the mids. I think Harley spends most of his time around mid to fwd, and won't be on the ball as much

+1

90 - 100 as a fwd is a little tempting  8)

Yeah I don't understand this? If he averages 100 I want him

I'm not paying 550k for a guy who I think will average 90-100 and has had an interrupted preseason as well as coming into a new side

Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow, Neale, Sandilands etc Freo have plenty of SC guns.

Don't know how people think a guy who has never averaged more than 101 and usually plays 15 games a year is going to come into one of the best sides in the comp and start going 105+.

I'm happy to wait and see on him - not start him
Having lots of good SC scorers already doesn't mean much at all

2014:
JPK 114ave
Buddy 99ave
KJack 103ave
Parker 108ave
Hannebery 101ave
McVeigh 104ave
McGlynn 100ave
Malceski 105ave

and that didn't include a gun ruck

If they're good enough they'll score well




In terms of Bennell, I'd expect him to score similar tbh

This was the part that needed to be highlighted ;)

"Don't know how people think a guy who has never averaged more than 101 and usually plays 15 games a year is going to come into one of the best sides in the comp and start going 105+. "

At 550k, I'd want to see how he goes for a while first and then look to bring him in if he warrants it. Too much risk and unknown to start him imo

Ricochet

Quote from: GoLions on February 01, 2016, 03:34:54 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 01, 2016, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 30, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on January 29, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: T Dog on January 29, 2016, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on January 29, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
I'm not convinced

Reckon he will only average 90-100. Freo have plenty of SC guns, even Walters is training with the mids. I think Harley spends most of his time around mid to fwd, and won't be on the ball as much

+1

90 - 100 as a fwd is a little tempting  8)

Yeah I don't understand this? If he averages 100 I want him

I'm not paying 550k for a guy who I think will average 90-100 and has had an interrupted preseason as well as coming into a new side

Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow, Neale, Sandilands etc Freo have plenty of SC guns.

Don't know how people think a guy who has never averaged more than 101 and usually plays 15 games a year is going to come into one of the best sides in the comp and start going 105+.

I'm happy to wait and see on him - not start him
Having lots of good SC scorers already doesn't mean much at all

2014:
JPK 114ave
Buddy 99ave
KJack 103ave
Parker 108ave
Hannebery 101ave
McVeigh 104ave
McGlynn 100ave
Malceski 105ave

and that didn't include a gun ruck

If they're good enough they'll score well




In terms of Bennell, I'd expect him to score similar tbh
You must have this post template saved on your desktop surely by now haha :P
Completely agree though regarding players being good enough to score no matter who else is in the team. In saying that, see Bennell as an upgrade target.
Haha i know right. Sometimes ppl get a bit caught up in the whole "not enough points to go around" theory. At the end of the day scores are still mainly based on stats

Ringo

I agree with RD here.  Bennell is a wait and see in a new side. In 5 seasons only once has he played all 22 games.

More importantly here are the number of times in SC he has scored more than 105 points:

2015 5/15
2014 4/15
2013 8/15
2012 6/22
2011 1/14

So from 81 games he has scored 105 points or more 24 times or 30% of the time.  So paying $550k for a player I would want a much better return than 30% over 105. Hence the wait and see at a new club with a strong midfield.

Gigantor

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-07/harley-bennell-running-smoothly-in-new-home-environment-with-fremantle

Quote"He's not in full training yet; he has a bit of a calf, but we're taking the long-term view. It's not about round one. It's not even just about this season - we want him to be an eight-to-10-season player for us."

quinny88

Quote from: Gigantor on February 07, 2016, 03:15:14 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-07/harley-bennell-running-smoothly-in-new-home-environment-with-fremantle

Quote"He's not in full training yet; he has a bit of a calf, but we're taking the long-term view. It's not about round one. It's not even just about this season - we want him to be an eight-to-10-season player for us."

That statement alone is enough to put a line through his name for me. Upgrade target

Ricochet

Quote from: quinny88 on February 07, 2016, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on February 07, 2016, 03:15:14 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-07/harley-bennell-running-smoothly-in-new-home-environment-with-fremantle

Quote"He's not in full training yet; he has a bit of a calf, but we're taking the long-term view. It's not about round one. It's not even just about this season - we want him to be an eight-to-10-season player for us."

That statement alone is enough to put a line through his name for me. Upgrade target
Yeh he'll struggle for round 1. Was always an upgrade target for me but will definitely be now

Sabretooth Tigers

 ::)

Been one of the first picked in my forward line since SC prices came out. But there are many words of wisdom above, so much so that I'll treat him as an upgrade target until he shows what he's made of. Think he will be top 6 forward material but will wait and see now. Thanks guys.      ;)