Rucks

[Holz]

Just a reminder this is what he did between round 9 and 19

134 128 136 150 148 221 127 164 155

North should be just as good if not better next year with A fit swallow and now Daniel Wells back in (draws a tagger outside).

even without his 221 score he averaged just under 124.

I think he can go 120 this year and ill be stoked with that.

He does have a very tough draw to start though

Sloane
Martin
Gawn
Sandi

so think he will average 110 over the first 4 weeks.

Too early for you Holz   ;)- Know Sloane is good but not a ruck.  Think you mean Jacobs.  ;D

im not a morning person.

Or do I mean Sloane will just dominate by roving all of Goldy taps? :P

nah Jacobs will destroy him and by that I mean Ben Jacobs :P switched on now.

[bowyanger]

Ive got Goldy because I intend to have him as my captain, the rest of my team is made up of plebs that I hope turn to gold

Then I read an interview with him about 2 weeks ago, he hasn't been injured in the last 2 seasons, is super fit, and has been trying to improve on parts of his game that apparently need work

I just know if I don't pick him it will be like the time I didn't start with Ablett  2 or 3 years ago thinking I was being clever...but everyone else had him and I lost lots

[ubeaut]

I'm running Stefan Martin, Tippett, Leuy AND Blicavs! DPP options galore Leuy is too cheap to pass on. Blicavs is a machine and will start in my MIDS!

Martin is durable,consistent and can improve - he is like Blicavs gets around and racks em up. Better value than Goldy.

[brudski]

I'm actually thinking of going something different and start Blicavs and Martin. At the moment i have Blicavs and Nic Nat but i really am considering martin

[piesfan1989]

If blicavs is used as a pure midfielder I'd be very cautious to bring him in. He scored so well as a ruck man because he was competing against slower, less durable players who tire quickly. Blicavs strength is his agility compared to other rucks. If he's playing on a wing against other tall running midfielders, it's a completely different ball game for him. He's no longer the centrepiece at stoppages and is no longer competing against lumbering ruckmen...

Thoughts?

[Southstorm]

If blicavs is used as a pure midfielder I'd be very cautious to bring him in. He scored so well as a ruck man because he was competing against slower, less durable players who tire quickly. Blicavs strength is his agility compared to other rucks. If he's playing on a wing against other tall running midfielders, it's a completely different ball game for him. He's no longer the centrepiece at stoppages and is no longer competing against lumbering ruckmen...

Thoughts?

Blicavs has elite athleticism in every measure. There's not a single player in the competition who I think could match up on him effectively. It's like trying to cover a flowering racehorse.

[piesfan1989]

If blicavs is used as a pure midfielder I'd be very cautious to bring him in. He scored so well as a ruck man because he was competing against slower, less durable players who tire quickly. Blicavs strength is his agility compared to other rucks. If he's playing on a wing against other tall running midfielders, it's a completely different ball game for him. He's no longer the centrepiece at stoppages and is no longer competing against lumbering ruckmen...

Thoughts?

Blicavs has elite athleticism in every measure. There's not a single player in the competition who I think could match up on him effectively. It's like trying to cover a flowering racehorse.

Yeah I understand that, but he's in a different role. So even though he can run around all day, that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to find himself in the right spots to get a high amount of possessions, win contested ball and kick efficiently under pressure. My point is, I think he'll be much more effective as an endurance freak in a ruck role, then he will as an endurance freak in a midfield role. Of course it's advantageous to have a huge tank when you're playing as a ruck man because chances are his opponent will tire. But his role as a ruck man is to be at every stoppage, thus having first crack at the ball. If you take this away from him, I think he'll struggle to get similar numbers. Am I making sense?

[Southstorm]

If blicavs is used as a pure midfielder I'd be very cautious to bring him in. He scored so well as a ruck man because he was competing against slower, less durable players who tire quickly. Blicavs strength is his agility compared to other rucks. If he's playing on a wing against other tall running midfielders, it's a completely different ball game for him. He's no longer the centrepiece at stoppages and is no longer competing against lumbering ruckmen...

Thoughts?

Blicavs has elite athleticism in every measure. There's not a single player in the competition who I think could match up on him effectively. It's like trying to cover a flowering racehorse.

Yeah I understand that, but he's in a different role. So even though he can run around all day, that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to find himself in the right spots to get a high amount of possessions, win contested ball and kick efficiently under pressure. My point is, I think he'll be much more effective as an endurance freak in a ruck role, then he will as an endurance freak in a midfield role. Of course it's advantageous to have a huge tank when you're playing as a ruck man because chances are his opponent will tire. But his role as a ruck man is to be at every stoppage, thus having first crack at the ball. If you take this away from him, I think he'll struggle to get similar numbers. Am I making sense?

Just because he isn't the starting ruckman doesn't mean he won't be anywhere near the stoppages. The guy won't be pulled out of the center because the work he does around the stoppages is beastly. Second for contested possies after Selwood, third for clearances after Selwood and Caddy, lead the club for tackles. He belongs at the contest.

If you were going to doubt his ability to score, you'd question what impact a certain high profile Geelong recruit will have on his game.

[piesfan1989]

If blicavs is used as a pure midfielder I'd be very cautious to bring him in. He scored so well as a ruck man because he was competing against slower, less durable players who tire quickly. Blicavs strength is his agility compared to other rucks. If he's playing on a wing against other tall running midfielders, it's a completely different ball game for him. He's no longer the centrepiece at stoppages and is no longer competing against lumbering ruckmen...

Thoughts?

Blicavs has elite athleticism in every measure. There's not a single player in the competition who I think could match up on him effectively. It's like trying to cover a flowering racehorse.

Yeah I understand that, but he's in a different role. So even though he can run around all day, that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to find himself in the right spots to get a high amount of possessions, win contested ball and kick efficiently under pressure. My point is, I think he'll be much more effective as an endurance freak in a ruck role, then he will as an endurance freak in a midfield role. Of course it's advantageous to have a huge tank when you're playing as a ruck man because chances are his opponent will tire. But his role as a ruck man is to be at every stoppage, thus having first crack at the ball. If you take this away from him, I think he'll struggle to get similar numbers. Am I making sense?

Just because he isn't the starting ruckman doesn't mean he won't be anywhere near the stoppages. The guy won't be pulled out of the center because the work he does around the stoppages is beastly. Second for contested possies after Selwood, third for clearances after Selwood and Caddy, lead the club for tackles. He belongs at the contest.

If you were going to doubt his ability to score, you'd question what impact a certain high profile Geelong recruit will have on his game.

mmm i see your point, but again those stats were obtained from being a mobile ruckman..isn't he pinned to play on the wing? I dunno I would have to see a huge game from him this week to feel confident..

[Holz]

If blicavs is used as a pure midfielder I'd be very cautious to bring him in. He scored so well as a ruck man because he was competing against slower, less durable players who tire quickly. Blicavs strength is his agility compared to other rucks. If he's playing on a wing against other tall running midfielders, it's a completely different ball game for him. He's no longer the centrepiece at stoppages and is no longer competing against lumbering ruckmen...

Thoughts?

Blicavs has elite athleticism in every measure. There's not a single player in the competition who I think could match up on him effectively. It's like trying to cover a flowering racehorse.

Yeah I understand that, but he's in a different role. So even though he can run around all day, that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to find himself in the right spots to get a high amount of possessions, win contested ball and kick efficiently under pressure. My point is, I think he'll be much more effective as an endurance freak in a ruck role, then he will as an endurance freak in a midfield role. Of course it's advantageous to have a huge tank when you're playing as a ruck man because chances are his opponent will tire. But his role as a ruck man is to be at every stoppage, thus having first crack at the ball. If you take this away from him, I think he'll struggle to get similar numbers. Am I making sense?

Just because he isn't the starting ruckman doesn't mean he won't be anywhere near the stoppages. The guy won't be pulled out of the center because the work he does around the stoppages is beastly. Second for contested possies after Selwood, third for clearances after Selwood and Caddy, lead the club for tackles. He belongs at the contest.

If you were going to doubt his ability to score, you'd question what impact a certain high profile Geelong recruit will have on his game.

This is what will undo him.

yes he can run all day but if i have the ball in my hands im giving it to Dangerfield the fastest man in the AFL and the guy I would put on Blicavs actually as he could burn off even him. I would then look to selwood who is just an out and out workhorse and winner.

[TexR74]

Anyone considering Zac Smith?

[bowyanger]

Anyone considering Zac Smith?

That's funny after the posts above it

[Thewizz71]

Just wondering if anyone is planning on not starting Goldy?
A Martin/Jacobs (A suacy martini perhaps?) could pay off, suing the $100K elsewhere.
For what it's worth, i currently have Goldy in my team.

[IntegralX]

I'm not starting goldy, but if you're going set and forget rucks, goldy has to be one of them doesn't he?

[BomberSam]

I'm not starting goldy, but if you're going set and forget rucks, goldy has to be one of them doesn't he?

Agreed. However I have seen a surprising number of set and forget combinations without him though. Martin and Gawn, Martin and Nic Nat will be the most popular of these.

I have strayed from my Goldy and Martin combination a few times but I always came back to it and now it is absolutely locked in.

Sauce Jacobs is an interesting one. Never has there been such a high-scoring ruckman as a big POD. Could be big rewards for those who select him.