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Nige

I've got Stef and Mummy locked in unless Mummy isn't good to go Round 1, in which case he becomes Maxwell Gawn. It would be the first time I've ever started without Mummy, but I know exactly what I get from him which is why I pick him every year.

Holz

Quote from: Nige on March 05, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
I've got Stef and Mummy locked in unless Mummy isn't good to go Round 1, in which case he becomes Maxwell Gawn. It would be the first time I've ever started without Mummy, but I know exactly what I get from him which is why I pick him every year.

Good scores, annoying injuries and headaches that lose points and trades?

Mat0369

Quote from: Holz on March 05, 2016, 10:42:25 AM
Where do you read this im really interested as thats my golden  rule.

It was on another site I frequent where we were talking about NFL fantasy, in particular Julio Jones. I had Jones as a top 2 WR, one guy kept bringing up injuries, I didn't really care and said it had only really been one injury and he has insane production when on the field. Someone chimed in with that comment.

Nige

Quote from: Holz on March 05, 2016, 01:06:15 PM
Quote from: Nige on March 05, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
I've got Stef and Mummy locked in unless Mummy isn't good to go Round 1, in which case he becomes Maxwell Gawn. It would be the first time I've ever started without Mummy, but I know exactly what I get from him which is why I pick him every year.

Good scores, annoying injuries and headaches that lose points and trades?
Yep. That's exactly it. I wouldn't have it any other way.

enzedder

Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 05, 2016, 12:30:16 PM
What do people think about starting currie?

We will all have a minimum of 4 rookies on the ground, so you basically need to pick the top 4 rookies, regardless of their position.

Anyone think currie could be one of those?
He's got me interested. Two nab games for about 20 hit outs and 7 possessions per game... 91 & 70 SC pts averaging 80 at 160k... Got Nic Nat at R2 presently who is 400k more and will average around 110....-35pts
400k could get me to Sloane from a rookie mid ... +45pts(70/115)
Not sure on Currie's JS though and how he is considered vs Nicholls but he is making a claim for the top job.

Ringo

Quote from: enzedder on March 05, 2016, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: piesfan1989 on March 05, 2016, 12:30:16 PM
What do people think about starting currie?

We will all have a minimum of 4 rookies on the ground, so you basically need to pick the top 4 rookies, regardless of their position.

Anyone think currie could be one of those?
He's got me interested. Two nab games for about 20 hit outs and 7 possessions per game... 91 & 70 SC pts averaging 80 at 160k... Got Nic Nat at R2 presently who is 400k more and will average around 110....-35pts
400k could get me to Sloane from a rookie mid ... +45pts(70/115)
Not sure on Currie's JS though and how he is considered vs Nicholls but he is making a claim for the top job.
See what happens next week when Suns will name a near full strength team for NAB 3.  My opinion is 1 of Peter Wright or Currie will play and helping with ruck.  Wright may have the inside running at the moment.

sammy123

just gone the cheap ruck at R3. but have grimley at F8 to swap around in case of emergency

Holz

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 05, 2016, 01:06:52 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 05, 2016, 10:42:25 AM
Where do you read this im really interested as thats my golden  rule.

It was on another site I frequent where we were talking about NFL fantasy, in particular Julio Jones. I had Jones as a top 2 WR, one guy kept bringing up injuries, I didn't really care and said it had only really been one injury and he has insane production when on the field. Someone chimed in with that comment.

Fair enough had never heard anyone else say it.

Mine is for underpriced premos like crouch libba etc.

Mummy isnt really underpriced as nn cheaper and legit premo.

I also think with one ruck bench and not many if any cheap benxh options its not the spot to take a risk.

At 500 or less i would be all over him

Mat0369

Quote from: Holz on March 05, 2016, 04:12:32 PM
Fair enough had never heard anyone else say it.

Mine is for underpriced premos like crouch libba etc.

Mummy isnt really underpriced as nn cheaper and legit premo.

I also think with one ruck bench and not many if any cheap benxh options its not the spot to take a risk.

At 500 or less i would be all over him

He may not be under priced but he still can score like a beast. If Currie/Grimley get games and the Mummy injuries only happen to be a couple games I would be willing to hold him. It's more the fact I don't trust any of the other rucks other then Goldy and to an extent Sandi. I like Martin for DT but not as much in SC, Sauce could be good but I won't lock him in as a top 2 option, Nic Nat I don't trust 100% and would rather Mummy, Gawn I don't trust. I'm going to pick him expecting the injury but also know I'm going to get a 105-110 average.

RaisyDaisy

Weird that you can't trust any of those guys but can Mummy

Those guys have much better history than Mummy

Mat0369

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
Weird that you can't trust any of those guys but can Mummy

Those guys have much better history than Mummy

They really don't. The only ones that you can argue are Goldstein (which I have), Sandi (suspended round 1) and maybe Sauce.

Stef Martin has NEVER played 22 games in his career. He has had back to back years of around a 110 average which is a positive, but he isn't going to improve past that and is priced at top dollar at 30k more then Mummy. He will get his 20 touches a game which will see him still be a good DT option and the less rotations should benefit him, but I'd prefer Mumford.

Nic Nat won't play 22 games either, I am expecting about 20 games (has played 20 in 5 of the last 6 years and one season with 11), he also has an injury history and he doesn't do as much around the ground as Mumford for roughly the same price.

Sauce is probably good for around 105 and is safe injury wise, but he had most of his big games against bottom 8 teams last year. Assuming with a tougher draw to start the season he could be a flop by that point and have to bounce back to finish as a top 5 option.

Max Gawn has 0 runs on the board and struggled against the better rucks last year as well. I don't think he has a ton of upside considering he played to his potential last year which is 102-103. 105 is probably what I expect in a best case scenario.

Mummy has the injury history but he has had 2 previous years where he has averaged over 110 and a 105 last year. The only rucks that truly influence games to the extent of Mumford are Goldstein, Sandilands and maybe Nic Nat to a degree. The year he averaged 113 and 112 he averaged 92 and 91 DT.....

GWS will improve this year and with the way he influences contests it should see him score well. Basically I think I can lock him in for 105 minimum with a ceiling over 110. If he isn't fit I'll look at Martin, Nic Nat and Sauce in that order.

Holz

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Do people think mummy will outscore NN?

Southstorm


Big Mac

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 05, 2016, 06:17:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2016, 05:42:29 PM
Weird that you can't trust any of those guys but can Mummy

Those guys have much better history than Mummy

Max Gawn has 0 runs on the board and struggled against the better rucks last year as well. I don't think he has a ton of upside considering he played to his potential last year which is 102-103. 105 is probably what I expect in a best case scenario.

The thing with Maxy is that he just turned 24, and will play his 40th AFL game in round one

Has so much improvement left in him, last year was just a taste of what he can offer

fwiw he's not in my side at the moment, but I'd pick him over Mummy

PowerBug

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 05, 2016, 06:17:21 PM
Stef Martin has NEVER played 22 games in his career. He has had back to back years of around a 110 average which is a positive, but he isn't going to improve past that and is priced at top dollar at 30k more then Mummy. He will get his 20 touches a game which will see him still be a good DT option and the less rotations should benefit him, but I'd prefer Mumford.
He played 20 last year and the two he missed were due to a bs suspension which made zero sense.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 05, 2016, 06:17:21 PM
Nic Nat won't play 22 games either, I am expecting about 20 games (has played 20 in 5 of the last 6 years and one season with 11), he also has an injury history and he doesn't do as much around the ground as Mumford for roughly the same price.
Fairly sure the two games he missed last year were not by choice. :-\ And he had a very good season after a slow start.
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