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Started by LordSneeze, January 06, 2016, 03:00:52 AM

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Judd Magic

Quote from: Raiden on June 22, 2016, 12:22:41 PM
Simple answer is you pay for what you get, you know what your going to get with Pendles + added bonus of having an extra VC/C option each week.

King_Robbo

Quote from: GoLions on June 22, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on June 22, 2016, 11:52:19 AM
Not worth it when there are guys like Hanners and Neale who will both be around $100k cheaper after their byes and can match his scoring
They can't match his scoring. Since coming back into the midfield, Pendles is averaging 130, with only 1 score under 118. Hannebery is averaging 115.5, Neale 114.3, so both will be losing 10ppg or more compared to Pendles. Then you also get an extra 2-3 weeks from Pendles if you're gonna wait for the others to bottom out (probably 3 weeks due to their byes), so that's another 50ppg for the next 3 weeks or thereabouts.

So, you're paying 100k for an extra 150 points in the next 3 weeks, and an extra 10-15 per week for the rest of the season after that. 100% worth it.

Wow go lions - usually your advice (apart from writing zzzzzorko in every forward post) is pretty spot on

But on this.. I think you've well and truly missed the mark

Neale was matching his scoring apart from one poor game against Brisbane. I think he's proven enough this year to show he can easily average 120+ on the run home. Remember - from rounds 6-11 (when Fyfe went down) he averaged 126.8

As for your point re the 150pts extra, seriously bud.. You're better than that
Firstly, if you pick up Pendles this week then he'll play Rd 14 and Rd 15 = two weeks. If you pick up Neale (Rd 16) or Hanners (rd 15) you're 'loosing' 1-2 weeks of a super prem score.

If you look at it in isolation then yes, you're loosing potential point gains over the next 1-2 weeks if you don't get Pendles. But if you're upgrading your forwards or defense from a rookie who is scoring say 60 per game i.e. DBJ to a Rance who is averaging 100 per game then you're gaining 40pts per game which is off setting the 'loss'

One of the big rules of SC the stratergy of buy low sell high. In this case you're buying Pendles at the highest price he'll get to this year (has a break even of 149 v freo in which Barlow will tag him) and skipping on two absolute stars in Neale and Hanners at their lowest prices of the year.

Add to this Neale is incredibly unique (5% from memory) compared to Pendles whose ownership is sitting at 27% then it's a no brainier.

For the record - I'm a Pendles owner so this doesn't concern me at all, I just feel obliged to write accurate and helpful advice unlike some others on this forum who try to lead the masses down the wrong path

Gigantor

Quote from: King_Robbo on June 22, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
For the record - I'm a Pendles owner so this doesn't concern me at all, I just feel obliged to write accurate and helpful advice unlike some others on this forum who try to lead the masses down the wrong path

Wow thats a big call mate, do you have any examples of people purposely giving out bad advise?

ronl

The only problem with Pendles is deciding whether to make him or Danger captain.  Then, of course, there's Gahn and Goldy(when fit).  But Hanners, Selly and Heater can't really be ignored either.  Not to mention Gaz now that he's firing again. But back to Pendles, yea, first man picked every week.

King_Robbo

Quote from: Gigantor on June 22, 2016, 12:51:58 PM
Quote from: King_Robbo on June 22, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
For the record - I'm a Pendles owner so this doesn't concern me at all, I just feel obliged to write accurate and helpful advice unlike some others on this forum who try to lead the masses down the wrong path

Wow thats a big call mate, do you have any examples of people purposely giving out bad advise?

Let's put it this way, there is defiantly some posts/topics that you glance over and they certainly raise the eye brows. I think we'd be naive  to think this doesn't happen.

By the way - go lions in general posts up some awesome advice

_wato

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@King_Robbo

Sorry champ, but you've missed the mark.

Hanners last 3 average 97, last 5 average 105. So 30ppg off Pendles' avg while playing in the midfield. Neale's 51 has to count against Brissy, and do you know why? Because Pendles will never throw out a stinker. So Neale who can throw up some showere when teams actually show him attention, vs a king of SC.

Second of all, most teams are complete or will be by this week so how do you all of a sudden make up 40 points on another line? Those trades are more than likely already done for this week (in your example DBJ -> Rance) so that can't count. So yes, indeed you are 50 points behind already by grabbing one of the other two.

Third, Neale and Hanners aren't at their lowest price, as both have pretty hefty Be's. One could say you could wait after the bye, but then that's two weeks without Pendles? And why would you bring in Hannebery who has the bye? Stupid

Fourth, 27% ownership vs 5% tells you that 27% of people understand Pendles is a gun and a must have. He should really be higher when you compare him with Danger at over 60%. So in that sense, is Pendles also a pod?

Fifth, this is accurate information and I am not leading anyone down the wrong path. Pretty insulting towards GL if I'm honest, calling him out for that in an in discrete way.

Last of all, but not least, please tell me, who will average more by years end? Pendles, Neale or Hanners? Once you work out who it is, I think you should understand that the principle of buy low sell high doesn't always account for instances like this, majority of that principle will be made early on in the year, when you sell rookies high and buy low end premiums, but, when finalising your team, you actually grab the best players available.

Cheers

Huttabito

When Pendles is bought into consideration, Pendles is answer.

When talking about the value of Hannebery, Neale.. you are comparing the pros/cons of value to money for the guys of the likes of Steven, Sloane and Treloar.

nrich102


batt

Was going to bring in Hanners but I'll go for Pendles next week after Barlow keeps him a touch quiet.

enzedder


Ziplock

fk pendles

#Captainswan

dmac07

Since round 5 when he moved back to midfield ...

131. 100. 143. 157. 140. 118. 125. 122. That is all.


timmyparso

Quote from: enzedder on June 22, 2016, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 22, 2016, 01:57:38 PM

I'll have some of that.

Is there a seat next to you guys?

For what it worth, Pendles is worth every cent. Hanners form has dipped a little bringing his price down to bargain territory and neale has shown vulnerability to tag from robbo but he'll learn from that but is also a bargain.

If you still have midfield spots available then any of these 3 players would help any team.

Peddles is a proven champ of supercoach and some believe is favoured by champion data. Ask yourself this, do you buy Pendles knowing he's worth the price or take a risker, but cheaper, option in a down on form Hanners or taggable Neale to save coin? Note that Eberts tag on Neale was useless but he's not a genuine tagger anyway.

For the record i have Pendles but would love to take advantage of Hanners and Neales low price when they bottom out.

Do what is best for your team.

King_Robbo

Quote from: _wato on June 22, 2016, 01:33:21 PM
@King_Robbo

Sorry champ, but you've missed the mark.

Hanners last 3 average 97, last 5 average 105. So 30ppg off Pendles' avg while playing in the midfield. Neale's 51 has to count against Brissy, and do you know why? Because Pendles will never throw out a stinker. So Neale who can throw up some showere when teams actually show him attention, vs a king of SC.

Second of all, most teams are complete or will be by this week so how do you all of a sudden make up 40 points on another line? Those trades are more than likely already done for this week (in your example DBJ -> Rance) so that can't count. So yes, indeed you are 50 points behind already by grabbing one of the other two.

Third, Neale and Hanners aren't at their lowest price, as both have pretty hefty Be's. One could say you could wait after the bye, but then that's two weeks without Pendles? And why would you bring in Hannebery who has the bye? Stupid

Fourth, 27% ownership vs 5% tells you that 27% of people understand Pendles is a gun and a must have. He should really be higher when you compare him with Danger at over 60%. So in that sense, is Pendles also a pod?

Fifth, this is accurate information and I am not leading anyone down the wrong path. Pretty insulting towards GL if I'm honest, calling him out for that in an in discrete way.

Last of all, but not least, please tell me, who will average more by years end? Pendles, Neale or Hanners? Once you work out who it is, I think you should understand that the principle of buy low sell high doesn't always account for instances like this, majority of that principle will be made early on in the year, when you sell rookies high and buy low end premiums, but, when finalising your team, you actually grab the best players available.

Cheers

Well 'champ'
Pendles went around tonight for an underwhelming 87..
As I said it was poor advice
Buy low sell high

Judd Magic

They mentioned on the channel 7 broadcast of the game that Pendles was sick and shouldn't have really been playing.

So that explains his so so score.  :-[