Sloane ...

[Money Shot]

This year Averaged (including finals)
117 in winning games (12)
81 in losing games (6)

Last year
126 in winning games (11)
103 in loosing games (11)

This could either be that he plays well and the crows win or he plays well because the rest of the team does. Either way there's uncertainty for me to where the crows are heading in 2016. It will be tough without danger and if they do spiral downwards then there's not much chance of Rory being a top 10 mid. On the chance they stay there, boy oh boy does Rory look good!

he was injured in most of the games he lost though. i would say it has more to do with him playing bad (or injured) that made them lose then them not winning. Kids a beast one of the best mids in the comp.

So he's been injured for 2 years in a row?

[Holz]

This year Averaged (including finals)
117 in winning games (12)
81 in losing games (6)

Last year
126 in winning games (11)
103 in loosing games (11)

This could either be that he plays well and the crows win or he plays well because the rest of the team does. Either way there's uncertainty for me to where the crows are heading in 2016. It will be tough without danger and if they do spiral downwards then there's not much chance of Rory being a top 10 mid. On the chance they stay there, boy oh boy does Rory look good!

he was injured in most of the games he lost though. i would say it has more to do with him playing bad (or injured) that made them lose then them not winning. Kids a beast one of the best mids in the comp.

So he's been injured for 2 years in a row?

just last year.

the year before you can say coincidence or him being the factor. Most players score more in a win then a loss though.

Lets look at Scott Pendlebury this year, just because he is Mr consistent

Wins 123 (10)
Loss 111 (12)

not as big yes but just shows its common. Sloane certainly isnt a downhill skier. cough gibbs

remember in 2014 he played 22 games and had 19/22 over 100. his scores under where 83 84 73 so not really ever bad. I rate him similar to a slightly lower version of pendles, will bascially post 100-120 and have a few big games when he is on.

[Money Shot]

That's true! He is locked in for me at the moment but that is something to consider.

[fasttrack13]

I did look at other premiums before I posted this but Sloane had the biggest discrepancy by about 5-10 points from those I looked at

[DMCC10]

Did some research on Sloane as i have seen him in many teams and have been had recommendations to put him in. I thought I'd just let you guys know my findings to make some peoples selection decision on him a bit easier. I reckon although he looks underpriced he could be a bit of a trap (and i'm not saying he won't be a good pick but based on my findings I have taken him out of consideration). My data used is from both the 2014 and 2015 seasons and does not include his injury/sub games.

Wins = 123, 120, 60, 115, 133, 130, 120, 83, 90, 104, 91, 98, 80, 126, 108, 145, 105, 145, 124, 123 = Ave. 111.2

Looks like a great selection when you see his scores in wins, with some huge scores posted, and only 3 scores < 90.
However, when you look at the losses is where things start to get a bit pearshaped and alarming.


Losses = 74, 86, 89, 77, 102, 75, 106, 93, 96, 65, 96, 87, 88, 100, 105, 130 = Ave. 91.8

Now this is where it looks bad for those selecting and considering Sloane, especially because of their opening fixture. Of his 16 losses in the past 2 seasons, he has had just one score above 106 which is a serious problem. Now some of you might be thinking that this doesn't matter cause if they win he will score well, but have a look at the first 8 games for the Crows in 2016 (NM, Port, Rich, Syd, Haw, Fre, WB, Geelong). Unlikely, but with their list changes I honestly could see Adelaide stumble to 0-8 by round eight. They sure have drawn a short straw with this fixture, however in terms of SC, this draw (if they do lose) will greatly affect Sloane, and along with the tag, could see him fall to an average of approx. 90-100 by round 10, and he could actually be quite cheap to bring in then. Just a suggestion, I love Sloane as a player and this is nothing against him, but more of a warning for those considering him. Any opinions are welcome, and hope it helps.

[Football Factory]

Anyone worried about Adelaide playing North twice this year, in round 1 and round 14 .. who get's the Ben Jacobs tag ? im thinking Sloane ?

I have Sloane in my AXVIII SC team and im a little worried by the departure of Danger  :(

[Ricochet]

I would have thought that Brodie Smith would get the tag before Sloane

[Football Factory]

I would have thought that Brodie Smith would get the tag before Sloane

Really ? okay that's good news for my team then.

[Grazz]

I would have thought that Brodie Smith would get the tag before Sloane

What makes you think that mate ?

[Ricochet]

I would have thought that Brodie Smith would get the tag before Sloane

What makes you think that mate ?

More outside, more damaging by foot, and easier to tag/limit his impact

[DMCC10]

Smith may well get the tag ahead of Sloane but even so, he has scored very poorly in losses without it anyway, so either way, its more the fixture side of it and his scores in losses that I am trying to get across

[Grazz]

I would have thought that Brodie Smith would get the tag before Sloane

What makes you think that mate ?

More outside, more damaging by foot, and easier to tag/limit his impact

Fair points but can't help but feel others will be inline ahead of him for a tag. Not out of the realms of possibility though depending on where he plays.

[Ricochet]

Smith may well get the tag ahead of Sloane but even so, he has scored very poorly in losses without it anyway, so either way, its more the fixture side of it and his scores in losses that I am trying to get across

Would you be able to do the same analysis on Danger please mate?

My thinking is that Sloane will have to step up in Danger's absence. If Danger show's a similar trend then I may have to stay away, but if he show's he scored well in losses too then there is room for Sloane to improve on those stats as a #1 mid

Again, just my thinking

[ben_020285]

Did some research on Sloane as i have seen him in many teams and have been had recommendations to put him in. I thought I'd just let you guys know my findings to make some peoples selection decision on him a bit easier. I reckon although he looks underpriced he could be a bit of a trap (and i'm not saying he won't be a good pick but based on my findings I have taken him out of consideration). My data used is from both the 2014 and 2015 seasons and does not include his injury/sub games.

Wins = 123, 120, 60, 115, 133, 130, 120, 83, 90, 104, 91, 98, 80, 126, 108, 145, 105, 145, 124, 123 = Ave. 111.2

Looks like a great selection when you see his scores in wins, with some huge scores posted, and only 3 scores < 90.
However, when you look at the losses is where things start to get a bit pearshaped and alarming.


Losses = 74, 86, 89, 77, 102, 75, 106, 93, 96, 65, 96, 87, 88, 100, 105, 130 = Ave. 91.8

Now this is where it looks bad for those selecting and considering Sloane, especially because of their opening fixture. Of his 16 losses in the past 2 seasons, he has had just one score above 106 which is a serious problem. Now some of you might be thinking that this doesn't matter cause if they win he will score well, but have a look at the first 8 games for the Crows in 2016 (NM, Port, Rich, Syd, Haw, Fre, WB, Geelong). Unlikely, but with their list changes I honestly could see Adelaide stumble to 0-8 by round eight. They sure have drawn a short straw with this fixture, however in terms of SC, this draw (if they do lose) will greatly affect Sloane, and along with the tag, could see him fall to an average of approx. 90-100 by round 10, and he could actually be quite cheap to bring in then. Just a suggestion, I love Sloane as a player and this is nothing against him, but more of a warning for those considering him. Any opinions are welcome, and hope it helps.

Great post.

Was already leaning towards not starting him and even more so now after reading this analysis.

[Ricochet]

I would have thought that Brodie Smith would get the tag before Sloane

What makes you think that mate ?

More outside, more damaging by foot, and easier to tag/limit his impact

Fair points but can't help but feel others will be inline ahead of him for a tag. Not out of the realms of possibility though depending on where he plays.

I'm an outside looking in, so you'd know more than me man.  I'd be interested to know who you think would get tagged before Smith though?