Sloane ...

[Money Shot]

The way I see it is he wont go any worse avg wise this season and could go huge.

[Peter]

Also Sloane mas Nth Melb first up, so possibly will have Ben Jacobs first up at Etihad

[kilbluff1985]

The way I see it is he wont go any worse avg wise this season and could go huge.

not sure how u can think there is no chance  he could lower his average with the unknown of how Danger going will affect him

[Holz]

The way I see it is he wont go any worse avg wise this season and could go huge.

not sure how u can think there is no chance  he could lower his average with the unknown of how Danger going will affect him

considering he was injured most of last year I agree i cant see him going any worse barring injury.

He averaged 115 in 2014
and 113 unsubbed last year and that average includes games where he was clearly playing injured.

came out averaging 140 over the first 3 rounds then got concussed.

Would lock him in for 115 with danger but I cant see danger missing and crouch coming back in dropping him by more then 10 points which is what needs to happen to go down in average.

Sloane is a beast he gets tagged already anyway.

[Money Shot]

My thoughts exactly Holz.
He could avg as high as 125+ but worst Case scenario he goes around that 100-105 mark which means you are breaking even. Don't think he is that much of a risk at all tbh.

[kilbluff1985]

lol

[Mat0369]

My thoughts exactly Holz.
He could avg as high as 125+ but worst Case scenario he goes around that 100-105 mark which means you are breaking even. Don't think he is that much of a risk at all tbh.

I have seen you mention this a couple times, this shouldn't be the case, you don't pick guys that will average 100-105 when they are 500k and the premier guys in the position average 20-25 points per game more and the next tier are 5-10 points per game more. 100 PPG is around the 35th best mid and means you have to waste a trade or maybe even two to get the guy out of your team later down the track, otherwise you're leaking points.

The difference in someone like Rockliff is that he averaged 136 over the last 5 and was priced over 700k the year before due to the huge average. He is under priced due to injuries but is less of a risk because the team around him hasn't changed all that much. While Redden is gone, he averaged just as well the previous year with him out of the team.

Libba is coming off a 110 average before the knee and is under 400k, Crouch averaged 103 when he came back from the foot a couple years back and is under 400k, at their price they are worth the risk, however I am not viewing them as keepers but rather as stepping stones that will get to the 100-105 average hopefully that I can turn into Fyfe down the track.

If I am spending $500,000+ on a guy it should be someone with a high floor and in a situation that isn't riddled with question marks. It should be a guy you feel extremely confident that is going to hit 110 minimum

[Peter]

Well said Mat - just doesn't score enough points imo to justify starting top 4 position in midfield

[Holz]

Well said Mat - just doesn't score enough points imo to justify starting top 4 position in midfield

what is enough though?

115 in 2014
113 unsubbed and clearly injured in some games in 2015.

Yes danger leaving will cause more tags but it also means more ball is available for him to win and more SC points. Sloane is now the main target for taggers but also the main target to get the ball and jacobs is still a really good ruck who will now look to hit it to Sloane.

The guy is 25 and about to enter his prime.

He has averaged 106 107 115 105 in his last 4 and besides concussions and cheek fractures this year (which arent a problem going forward) he rarely misses games.

[tbagrocks]

I think 113-115 again! Brad Crouch, Brodie Smith and Taylor Walker will share Dangerfield's previous points, but mainly Crouch should he be fully fit :-\

Sloaney could go near 120 but certainly wont be below 105, bank your hat on that!

[Mat0369]

what is enough though?

115 in 2014
113 unsubbed and clearly injured in some games in 2015.

Yes danger leaving will cause more tags but it also means more ball is available for him to win and more SC points. Sloane is now the main target for taggers but also the main target to get the ball and jacobs is still a really good ruck who will now look to hit it to Sloane.

The guy is 25 and about to enter his prime.

He has averaged 106 107 115 105 in his last 4 and besides concussions and cheek fractures this year (which arent a problem going forward) he rarely misses games.

I think Crouch is the guy that is going to see a lot of taps going his way, the kid is an extractor and the role suits him to a tee, it obviously will depend on health though.

[Southstorm]

If that's the case, I'd be surprised if Crouch doesn't take the main tagger then.

[Mat0369]

If that's the case, I'd be surprised if Crouch doesn't take the main tagger then.

Teams tend to not tag the extractors, they will go to guys that can do more damage on the outside

[fasttrack13]

This year Averaged (including finals)
117 in winning games (12)
81 in losing games (6)

Last year
126 in winning games (11)
103 in loosing games (11)

This could either be that he plays well and the crows win or he plays well because the rest of the team does. Either way there's uncertainty for me to where the crows are heading in 2016. It will be tough without danger and if they do spiral downwards then there's not much chance of Rory being a top 10 mid. On the chance they stay there, boy oh boy does Rory look good!

[Holz]

This year Averaged (including finals)
117 in winning games (12)
81 in losing games (6)

Last year
126 in winning games (11)
103 in loosing games (11)

This could either be that he plays well and the crows win or he plays well because the rest of the team does. Either way there's uncertainty for me to where the crows are heading in 2016. It will be tough without danger and if they do spiral downwards then there's not much chance of Rory being a top 10 mid. On the chance they stay there, boy oh boy does Rory look good!

he was injured in most of the games he lost though. i would say it has more to do with him playing bad (or injured) that made them lose then them not winning. Kids a beast one of the best mids in the comp.