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_wato

How does that make you have a problem with his strategy then MC? Spending little $$ down back (which is shown clearly with Smith at D2 and Eski at D3), because plenty of players will cluster between 80-95 giving him more $$ to spend up on the premos where the point differential is bigger as you say. With him going cheap in defence, he could get a Jelwood over Shiel or Fyfe over Sloane for example. Are you trying to say you agree with it? I'm confused

hawkboy80

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Quote from: hawkboy80 on February 11, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
I'm playing around with a light option down back
Houli, Smith, Eski, McKenzie, Dea, Hartley, (Brown Ess) - Bonner, Broad
gives me plenty of $ for the midfield
my mids atm are
Pendles, Gaz, R Gray, Sloane, Rocky, Libba, Crouch, Hopper - Gresham, Jansen, Petracca

Grufflez

Quote from: MC on February 11, 2016, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: hawkboy80 on February 11, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
I'm playing around with a light option down back
Houli, Smith, Eski, McKenzie, Dea, (Brown Ess) - Bonner, Broad
gives me plenty of $ for the midfield


The only problem I have with this strategy is that the points-differential between the top 20 defenders might only be 7-8 points, though the difference between the mids will usually be far greater. Eg: If you went a speculative pick in the mids like Shiel, if he underperforms and only goes for 100-105 you could be 15-20 points behind someone who went for Selwood @ 120. In the defense, a top-liner would be around 90-95, but there are plenty who hit around 85.

Selwood 0 chance of going 120 this season. 00000000

Torpedo10

Quote from: Grufflez on February 11, 2016, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: MC on February 11, 2016, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: hawkboy80 on February 11, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
I'm playing around with a light option down back
Houli, Smith, Eski, McKenzie, Dea, (Brown Ess) - Bonner, Broad
gives me plenty of $ for the midfield


The only problem I have with this strategy is that the points-differential between the top 20 defenders might only be 7-8 points, though the difference between the mids will usually be far greater. Eg: If you went a speculative pick in the mids like Shiel, if he underperforms and only goes for 100-105 you could be 15-20 points behind someone who went for Selwood @ 120. In the defense, a top-liner would be around 90-95, but there are plenty who hit around 85.

Selwood 0 chance of going 120 this season. 00000000
I wouldn't go that far. 115 is easily a chance.

MC

Quote from: _wato on February 11, 2016, 01:53:31 PM
How does that make you have a problem with his strategy then MC? Spending little $$ down back (which is shown clearly with Smith at D2 and Eski at D3), because plenty of players will cluster between 80-95 giving him more $$ to spend up on the premos where the point differential is bigger as you say. With him going cheap in defence, he could get a Jelwood over Shiel or Fyfe over Sloane for example. Are you trying to say you agree with it? I'm confused

What I meant was that locking in the mids early may not work out so well, as there are a few who may break out or become must-haves, scoring far more than the next best in the position. People seem to have written Joel off for example, though if he returns to his best he'll become a must-have. If that happens, a player who stacks their mids early will have no room or flexibility to bring him in.

MC

Quote from: Grufflez on February 11, 2016, 05:05:23 PM
Quote from: MC on February 11, 2016, 01:26:06 PM
Quote from: hawkboy80 on February 11, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
I'm playing around with a light option down back
Houli, Smith, Eski, McKenzie, Dea, (Brown Ess) - Bonner, Broad
gives me plenty of $ for the midfield


The only problem I have with this strategy is that the points-differential between the top 20 defenders might only be 7-8 points, though the difference between the mids will usually be far greater. Eg: If you went a speculative pick in the mids like Shiel, if he underperforms and only goes for 100-105 you could be 15-20 points behind someone who went for Selwood @ 120. In the defense, a top-liner would be around 90-95, but there are plenty who hit around 85.

Selwood 0 chance of going 120 this season. 00000000

Comments like this suggest that you haven't been playing Supercoach for long... Selwood has been one of the best scorers for a very long time, his 7-year average is 114 for God's sake, and he's only 27 years old. His career average is 109, only 2 points below both Pendles and GAJ...   

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Keeper27

Quote from: MC on February 11, 2016, 06:55:50 PM
Comments like this suggest that you haven't been playing Supercoach for long... Selwood has been one of the best scorers for a very long time, his 7-year average is 114 for God's sake, and he's only 27 years old. His career average is 109, only 2 points below both Pendles and GAJ...   

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not denying the blokes ability to score.
but this year like the last 5 years you will always get a chance to get him cheaper.

His avg start price the last 5 years. $619,180
his avg lowest price the last 5 years $498,080

that's a saving of $121K

Quote from: _wato on February 11, 2016, 01:53:31 PM
How does that make you have a problem with his strategy then MC? Spending little $$ down back (which is shown clearly with Smith at D2 and Eski at D3), because plenty of players will cluster between 80-95 giving him more $$ to spend up on the premos where the point differential is bigger as you say. With him going cheap in defence, he could get a Jelwood over Shiel or Fyfe over Sloane for example. Are you trying to say you agree with it? I'm confused

agreed. save money in DEF where the differential is smaller than the Midfield.

batt

I'm going 5 deep in defense and loading up with midpricers up forward.  Don't think I can trust the scoring of any of the back rooks.

Laird/Simmo/Bartel/Yeo/Eski are my 5 atm.

_wato

I'm similiar, do not trust defence rookies at all. Always wait and see but currently have Smith at D4, EMac at D5. Makes the team so much more balanced. Libba/Crouch at M5/6 and Simpkin/Wells at F4/F5, including two prem rucks. Not lacking at all.

dmac07

Quote from: _wato on February 11, 2016, 09:14:44 PM
I'm similiar, do not trust defence rookies at all. Always wait and see but currently have Smith at D4, EMac at D5. Makes the team so much more balanced. Libba/Crouch at M5/6 and Simpkin/Wells at F4/F5, including two prem rucks. Not lacking at all.

Similar set up to me. Emac at D5. People may be gaining extra points in mids premiums, but have to look at how much less those defense rookies and mid pricers are going to score compared to the mids. Could have Eski/EMac, Dea, Brown all on the field getting you 70, 60, 50. Same money in the mids gets you Libba Mills/Hopper and Kerridge/Petracca for 95, 80, 80. Theres always 2 or 3 in each position that surpris you every year so better not to load up to heavy in one positon I think, spread your premiums with enough room to get the few that you dont predict


plumdog millionaire

Aaron Mullett - no chance?


ubeaut

Cheap in defence as ususal for me. Even more so this year.

McVeigh,Simpson,Hurn and rookies/rookie priced.

I reckon only Bartel,Smith and of course Heater are the other ones to look at.

meow meow


GoLions

Quote from: meow meow on February 13, 2016, 03:59:49 PM
Tom Langdon.
I've been looking at both Langdon and Marley, don't have the guts though