Player X v Player Y

Started by ben_020285, December 22, 2015, 02:28:20 PM

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ben_020285


Ricochet

Quote from: ben_020285 on December 22, 2015, 02:28:20 PM
Stef Martin v Nic Nat
Good one! also tossing up these two. I'm with SMartin atm, just because Leuey has gone

Ringo

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This will probably be one of the most asked comparisons by coaches looking at rucks.

There is a not a lot of difference between them.  Both now No 1 Rucks at their clubs and both very durable. Martin missed 2 games last year as did Nic Nat. Both very athletic around the ground though Martin virtually is another mid winning a lot of his own ball.

Martin has averaged 110 for last 2 years and Nat averaged 103 last year following Cox's retirement. Question can Nic Nat gain the extra 7ppg to match Martin or will martin drop off slightly. Oh for a crystal ball.

Nat is 3 years younger than Martin so this could be a factor to consider.

Stats averages:
Martin: Kicks 12 Handball 10 Possessions 22 Marks 6 Hit outs 33 Tackles 2
Naitanui : Kicks 6 Handball 6 Possessions 12 Marks 2 Hit Outs 34 Tackles 4

Looking at the Stats has to be Martin.  However if strapped for cash Naitanui is $37k cheaper.

Overall favour Martin, but may be biased, based on Martin's possessions around the ground.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Ricochet on December 22, 2015, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on December 22, 2015, 02:28:20 PM
Stef Martin v Nic Nat
Good one! also tossing up these two. I'm with SMartin atm, just because Leuey has gone

Tough one for sure.

I prefer NicNat personally, because he doesn't need 20+ touches to ton up like Martin does and probably has a slightly higher ceiling too

fasttrack13

I think Martin is definitely a better option...
Lions now have a beautifully built midfield with players who know how to rove the ball and i think a full pre season of practise roving to martin i think his HO adv. % will rise 5-10% in addition to his possessions.
However nicnat as was said is 37k cheaper and as I'm strapped for cash i have him in right now. I think NN is set for a major breakout year so taking price and points into account its pretty even. If your not worried about cash Martin is the man.


Have one of my own:
Z.Merrett v T.Greene

ben_020285

Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 22, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
I think Martin is definitely a better option...
Lions now have a beautifully built midfield with players who know how to rove the ball and i think a full pre season of practise roving to martin i think his HO adv. % will rise 5-10% in addition to his possessions.
However nicnat as was said is 37k cheaper and as I'm strapped for cash i have him in right now. I think NN is set for a major breakout year so taking price and points into account its pretty even. If your not worried about cash Martin is the man.


Have one of my own:
Z.Merrett v T.Greene

Very tough one I reckon. So tough that I actually have both in my current side!

I think it all comes down to what role they play for their respective sides next year. NAB Cup will hopefully be a good indication. If one of them spends the majority of the time in the midfield during NAB then I would pick them and if they both do then I would pick both.

So my answer doesn't really help you right now so my suggestion is to go with the cheaper option so the leftover cash can be spent elsewhere so that would be Greene.

RaisyDaisy

On the assumption you can only fit in one

Jelwood vs Sloane

Samm79

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 22, 2015, 04:04:30 PM
On the assumption you can only fit in one

Jelwood vs Sloane

Tough one as there's an argument to have both. Would have to go Jelwood, think he said recently he struggled with injury last year, proven and the addition of Danger should take the heat off a little. Conversely Sloane may attract more attention.

Assuming youve locked Rocky away?

fasttrack13

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 22, 2015, 04:04:30 PM
On the assumption you can only fit in one

Jelwood vs Sloane

Selwood has the higher ceiling and probably more upside from last years effort so i'd probably pick him over sloane. But, in the past we have gotten selwood cheap later on in the year. Personally i think selwood will out score sloane quite significantly!

RaisyDaisy

My concerns with Jelwood are that he still isn't training and wont til the new year - has several niggles or something that is hampering him so he's clearly nowhere near 100% still

fasttrack13

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on December 22, 2015, 04:41:24 PM
My concerns with Jelwood are that he still isn't training and wont til the new year - has several niggles or something that is hampering him so he's clearly nowhere near 100% still

Even still I think there's too much uncertainty around Sloane compared to Selwood. If you're not confident on Selwood or Sloane I'd consider Treloar / Shiel! I expect them to break into the top 10-15 mids in the comp and go 108-112. If you have 3 of Gaz/Pendles/Fyfe/Rocky/Hanners its worth the risk with a POD like treloar or shiel at M4

Southstorm

Sloane if you're picking one to start with. I don't think he's going to be noticeably affected by Dangerfield's departure even if the rest of the Adelaide side will be. He's an inside bull, he's going to rack up a showerload of the footy and plenty of tackles regardless of who is working around him.

Hawker_08


ben_020285

Quote from: Hawker_08 on December 22, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
Lids vs Martin, of both?

Dusty.

Lids is too expensive and has dodgy achilles which will likely see him miss games.

Ringo

With Martin being cleared by police so there is every probability he will play round 1,  So that being the case would have to go Martin $40k cheaper