Player X v Player Y

[ben_020285]

Pendles v Sloane/Selwood

Is Pendles worth the extra money if he is going to play more of a forward role this season?

Pendles

[ben_020285]

Bennell v Dahlhous.

Dahlhaus. Bennell always misses multiple games.

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Pendlebury vs Beams?

Pendles. Beams always misses multiple games.

[ben_020285]

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Three will stay but one must go, but which one  ??

K Kolodjashnij     J Bartel     B Smith     P Seedsman

I can put up cases for and against all of them equally but keep coming back to one sticking point.
That is Bartel's age. Am I making too much of it guys ??   ??
                                                                                         :(

KK, Bartel and Smith. Goodbye Seedsman.

[Ringo]

:-\

Three will stay but one must go, but which one  ??

K Kolodjashnij     J Bartel     B Smith     P Seedsman

I can put up cases for and against all of them equally but keep coming back to one sticking point.
That is Bartel's age. Am I making too much of it guys ??   ??
                                                                                         :(

Can't we all.

In my opinion KK and Smith would be locks. With all the Suns players fit and the inclisopn of Rosa KK should revert to the running and kicking game which is SC friendly.  Smith should revert to his All Australian role and score well.

That leaves Bartel and Seedsman.  What will Seedsman's role be at the Crows probably need to watch NAB cup to get an idea and whether there is scope to increase his average.  (has been 67.5 and 60.1 for the last 2 years).
Bartel as you say age is a factor but weighing against that is the fact that prior to last year he has not averaged less than 95 for last 11 years. Taking out his injury effected score in Round 3 he still averaged 88 last year,

So based on Stats it would be Seedsman 

[Ringo]

Starting with Stef Martin as Ruck 1. (My opinion Goldy too expensive and concerned that very few Top Ruck are Top rucks the following season. Great debate in the to start Goldstein thread)

So Jacobs or Nat as R2?

[creeker]

Starting with Stef Martin as Ruck 1. (My opinion Goldy too expensive and concerned that very few Top Ruck are Top rucks the following season. Great debate in the to start Goldstein thread)

So Jacobs or Nat as R2?

Great call Ringo.
Further to the top scoring rucks and there following seasons.
These stats are from a highly respected coach from a different SC site.

2007. Dean Cox, 99. Followed up with 112.
2008. Cox, 112. Again Cox had the top average, but 13th in aggregate, only played 11 games.
2009. Cox, 111. Then backed up with  a 88.
2010. Sandilands, 114. Then went 4th with a average of 111 the following year.
2011. Cox, 122. Then again went 4th with 112.
2012. Nic Nat, 114. Followed up 8th with 96.
2013. Minson, 114. Then went 9th at 93.
2014. Jacobs, 115. Then finished 4th with 107.

I'm still tipping Goldy to be the best ruck again this year but history not on his side.
695k is just to much coin to part with up front.

[Dons]

Starting with Stef Martin as Ruck 1. (My opinion Goldy too expensive and concerned that very few Top Ruck are Top rucks the following season. Great debate in the to start Goldstein thread)

So Jacobs or Nat as R2?

Nat. Or luey, then grab goldy when (if?) he drops by moving luey fwd and cashing in a fwd or mid mid pricer or 2.

[GraysFan]

I took a look at jacobs for a bit.
He has the round 13 bye, if you start leuy in the forward line, he has the round 14 bye, and martin has the round 15.
So each round you will have two playing ruckman

However i was convinced reading that with danger gone he would lose points from not as many effective ruck taps.
I would personally go with nicnat out of the two :)

[enzedder]

So Jacobs or Nat as R2?

Nic Nat

[Sabretooth Tigers]

Starting with Stef Martin as Ruck 1. (My opinion Goldy too expensive and concerned that very few Top Ruck are Top rucks the following season. Great debate in the to start Goldstein thread)

So Jacobs or Nat as R2?

Out of the two you quoted definitely Nicnat. But if I was looking to upgrade to Goldstein I would go Mumford without any hesitation. Best chance of a parellel swap. Think from memory he was on fire when he went down with injury this year and his price at the time was very close to Goldy's. You'd have to check the stats on this as I'm going purely on memory. Cheers and best of luck      ;)

[_wato]

Not willing to spend $695k on Goldy but are willing to spend $597k on a bloke who's put 18 months of good footy together? Has had injuries in the past and relies on a load of possessions to score well? As a ruckman may I add?

That's like saying you'd go past Ablett in all those years he went massive and picking a bloke like Priddis. Good and serviceable but not the absolute super premium status of Ablett.

Good luck making the swap when Goldy does the same as this year!! No reason to say he won't. And your reply will say, 'he won't get as many monster scores', and look at the history of past ruckman, but you have to remember he scored 44 against Sandi and without that he averaged over 134. No ruckman has ever done that. Take a few points off that average and I cannot see him going under 120-125 which a few ruckman have done in the past. No different

[Money Shot]

Not willing to spend $695k on Goldy but are willing to spend $597k on a bloke who's put 18 months of good footy together? Has had injuries in the past and relies on a load of possessions to score well? As a ruckman may I add?

That's like saying you'd go past Ablett in all those years he went massive and picking a bloke like Priddis. Good and serviceable but not the absolute super premium status of Ablett.

Good luck making the swap when Goldy does the same as this year!! No reason to say he won't. And your reply will say, 'he won't get as many monster scores', and look at the history of past ruckman, but you have to remember he scored 44 against Sandi and without that he averaged over 134. No ruckman has ever done that. Take a few points off that average and I cannot see him going under 120-125 which a few ruckman have done in the past. No different

This. Although Martin is a good pick as well if you're not starting with Goldy I don't see you getting him in easily.

[Sabretooth Tigers]

 ::)

Isaac Heeney v Isaac Heeney

I put it this way because I believe he is capable of doing absolutely anything next year. Scored 117 in his last home and away, I really believe he will be the biggest breakout of the new season. Does anybody know anything about him or have any thoughts or opinions on this please ??        ;)

[Goosey]

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Isaac Heeney v Isaac Heeney

I put it this way because I believe he is capable of doing absolutely anything next year. Scored 117 in his last home and away, I really believe he will be the biggest breakout of the new season. Does anybody know anything about him or have any thoughts or opinions on this please ??        ;)

Heeney.