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Started by LordSneeze, December 10, 2015, 01:10:23 PM

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LordSneeze

Time to get a team on paper to start with. Rookies i only have as placeholders for example Petracca will be in the mids etc.
Be Harsh

Salary cap left: $234,800.

Michael Johnson, Brodie Smith, Nick Malceski, Andrew Walker, David Swallow, Ryan Harwood
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, Josh Watts

Scott Pendlebury, Tom Rockliff, Gary Ablett jnr, Tom Liberatore, Jaeger O'Meara, Brad Crouch, Callum Mills, Darcy Parish
Aidyn Johnson, Ben Keays, Kieran Lovell

Stefan Martin, Nic Naitanui
Daniel Currie

Michael Barlow, Jimmy Bartel, Lance Franklin, Mark Hutchings, Daniel Menzel, Jonathon Patton
James Rose, Josh Clayton

Money Shot

This team is structurely perfect!
Michael Johnson may have to play more of KPP role so I would stay clear.
Mids and ruck are perfect!
Bartel is getting on in my opinion and don't see him improving.
Would love your thoughts on Hutchings as well.

Would be great if you could return the favour!

quinny88

D: agree with MS and think the retirement of McPharlin will force Johnson to play more of a lockdown role, Andrew Walker could be a good pick, only  if he plays across half back.

M: pretty standard and can't argue with an of those picks

R: perfect setup

F: jimmys midfield days are all but over so I question weather he can push for a 100 average again but he may prove me wrong.

Nice side!

LordSneeze

Quote from: Money Shot on December 10, 2015, 01:21:04 PM
This team is structurely perfect!
Michael Johnson may have to play more of KPP role so I would stay clear.
Mids and ruck are perfect!
Bartel is getting on in my opinion and don't see him improving.
Would love your thoughts on Hutchings as well.

Would be great if you could return the favour!

Johnson is underpriced, but someone like a Hibberd for the same price is very tasty.
Bartel will be moved on at somepoint, he is there more as a placeholder at a reasonable price which will allow me to upgrade to a Wingard/Gray/Gunston/Edwards/Riewolt type if i desire.

Hutchings to me is primed to breakout this year and only 25, im a big fan and he will likely fly under the radar on most teams being he is that awkward price between 300 & 400k.
He has never had an uninteruppted preseason, his first year for the club showed that he has quite a bit of improvement.
He was sub 3 times in 10 games and exluding these he averaged 90. He is priced at only 71.
He has show his ability to do everything around the ground, sweep off half back, win contested ball, kick goals.
The loss of Selwood could mean he gets a small increase in time in the middle

LordSneeze

Quote from: quinny88 on December 10, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
D: agree with MS and think the retirement of McPharlin will force Johnson to play more of a lockdown role, Andrew Walker could be a good pick, only  if he plays across half back.

M: pretty standard and can't argue with an of those picks

R: perfect setup

F: jimmys midfield days are all but over so I question weather he can push for a 100 average again but he may prove me wrong.

Nice side!
Walker has the potential to be replaced by Seedsman as he is also well underpriced.

The_Captain

Quote from: LordSneeze on December 10, 2015, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 10, 2015, 01:21:04 PM
This team is structurely perfect!
Michael Johnson may have to play more of KPP role so I would stay clear.
Mids and ruck are perfect!
Bartel is getting on in my opinion and don't see him improving.
Would love your thoughts on Hutchings as well.

Would be great if you could return the favour!

Johnson is underpriced, but someone like a Hibberd for the same price is very tasty.
Bartel will be moved on at somepoint, he is there more as a placeholder at a reasonable price which will allow me to upgrade to a Wingard/Gray/Gunston/Edwards/Riewolt type if i desire.

Hutchings to me is primed to breakout this year and only 25, im a big fan and he will likely fly under the radar on most teams being he is that awkward price between 300 & 400k.
He has never had an uninteruppted preseason, his first year for the club showed that he has quite a bit of improvement.
He was sub 3 times in 10 games and exluding these he averaged 90. He is priced at only 71.
He has show his ability to do everything around the ground, sweep off half back, win contested ball, kick goals.
The loss of Selwood could mean he gets a small increase in time in the middle

Most eagles predicted round 1 lineups dont have him starting in 22. let alone getting enough midfield time to average what your hoping for. Better off going rookie, or proven premo.

LordSneeze

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Quote from: The_Captain on December 10, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on December 10, 2015, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on December 10, 2015, 01:21:04 PM
This team is structurely perfect!
Michael Johnson may have to play more of KPP role so I would stay clear.
Mids and ruck are perfect!
Bartel is getting on in my opinion and don't see him improving.
Would love your thoughts on Hutchings as well.

Would be great if you could return the favour!

Johnson is underpriced, but someone like a Hibberd for the same price is very tasty.
Bartel will be moved on at somepoint, he is there more as a placeholder at a reasonable price which will allow me to upgrade to a Wingard/Gray/Gunston/Edwards/Riewolt type if i desire.

Hutchings to me is primed to breakout this year and only 25, im a big fan and he will likely fly under the radar on most teams being he is that awkward price between 300 & 400k.
He has never had an uninteruppted preseason, his first year for the club showed that he has quite a bit of improvement.
He was sub 3 times in 10 games and exluding these he averaged 90. He is priced at only 71.
He has show his ability to do everything around the ground, sweep off half back, win contested ball, kick goals.
The loss of Selwood could mean he gets a small increase in time in the middle

Most eagles predicted round 1 lineups dont have him starting in 22. let alone getting enough midfield time to average what your hoping for. Better off going rookie, or proven premo.

Interesting i have him as best 22. See below. Who do you say replaced him? Hutchings is much more versatile that Hill, Mcginnity, Duggan.

B: Sharrod Wellingham, Eric Mackenzie, Shannon Hurn
HB: Will Schofield, Jeremy McGovern, Brad Sheppard
C: Andrew Gaff, Matt Priddis, Elliot Yeo
HF: Chris Masten, Jack Darling, Lewis Jetta
F: Mark LeCras, Josh Kennedy, Jamie Cripps
Foll: Nic Naitanui, Jack Redden, Luke Shuey
I/C: Dom Sheed, Xavier Ellis, Scott Lycett, Mark Hutchings

DEPTH
Key-position defenders: Tom Barrass, Mitch Brown
General defenders: Corey Adamson*,Jamie Bennell,Sam Butler, Paddy Brophy*, Tom Cole, Jackson Nelson
Key-position forwards: Fraser McInnes
General forwards: Matthew Allen, Josh Hill, Malcolm Karpany, Tom Lamb, Patrick McGinnity, Simon Tunbridge*
Midfielders: Damien Cavka, Brant Colledge*, Liam Duggan, Kane Lucas*, Kurt Mutimer, Luke Partington, Jordan Snadden*, Alec Waterman*
Rucks: Jonathan Giles



The_Captain

Duggan, butler,, hill. In that order. Duggan will be a jet, only reason he missed was because of injury. He will slot straight back in. Much better kick. Injuries will get him games. But not for that price would I be starting him.

LordSneeze

Okay so we are back for another installment of the team

$50,600 remaining

Def - Mcveigh, Hibberd, Smith, Malceski, Francis, Otten (Brown, Gowers)
Mids - Pendles, Ablett, Rocky, Swallow, Libba, Crouch, Mills, Parish (Keays, Fordham, Dunkley)
Rucks - Martin, Nic Nat (Currie)
Fwds - Lids, Barlow, Franklin, Walker, D. Menzel, Petracca (Kerridge, Rose)

Tossing up between Swallow & JOM +100k

fasttrack13

There are definitely much better options than hibberd.
I'd stick with swallow... I'd back him to go 105-110 this year even though 100-105 is more realistic!
Is that Tex or Andrew Walker? Assuming it's tex as he's killing pre season!
Is he there to trade out round 1 after his 170 or as a keeper because I don't see him being one... Even though I'm backing him in for the Coleman this year!

LordSneeze

Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 17, 2015, 12:47:56 AM
There are definitely much better options than hibberd.
I'd stick with swallow... I'd back him to go 105-110 this year even though 100-105 is more realistic!
Is that Tex or Andrew Walker? Assuming it's tex as he's killing pre season!
Is he there to trade out round 1 after his 170 or as a keeper because I don't see him being one... Even though I'm backing him in for the Coleman this year!

Yeah around that price in defence is difficult and I haven't done much indepth research into it yet. The news JOM potentially wont start the year, Bennell moving away I can see him playing in the guts a lot. Should be good for a 100+ average. Ill take that at 400k especially as I think he will be a pretty nice POD in the mids.
its Andrew, but solely as I placeholder.

Ive had a closer look into the Crows team this evening and Otten will be coming out of my backline. I just cannot see how he will break into the side. Currently they have
Laird, Henderson, Smith/Seedsman (One on wing), Jaensch, Brown, Talia as a solid starting 6. There is probably 1 spot free being fought between Cheney, Lever, Kelly, Hampton, Hartigan & Otten. Id have him 4th in that list.
If he somehow does he will likely average 65 which with the risk of not laying, getting dropped I don't think is worth even if named R1
To me Tex isn't worth it. He is prices at 82 and only once in his career averaged over that. The loss of Danger from the crows midfield to me will mean less quality being fed into the Fwd line. he does have the big game like most key forwards, but a average score is only 75. Not way am I picking that as there is very little upside.

TomK

Quote from: LordSneeze on December 17, 2015, 01:50:13 AM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 17, 2015, 12:47:56 AM
There are definitely much better options than hibberd.
I'd stick with swallow... I'd back him to go 105-110 this year even though 100-105 is more realistic!
Is that Tex or Andrew Walker? Assuming it's tex as he's killing pre season!
Is he there to trade out round 1 after his 170 or as a keeper because I don't see him being one... Even though I'm backing him in for the Coleman this year!
Ive had a closer look into the Crows team this evening and Otten will be coming out of my backline. I just cannot see how he will break into the side. Currently they have
Laird, Henderson, Smith/Seedsman (One on wing), Jaensch, Brown, Talia as a solid starting 6. There is probably 1 spot free being fought between Cheney, Lever, Kelly, Hampton, Hartigan & Otten. Id have him 4th in that list.
If he somehow does he will likely average 65 which with the risk of not laying, getting dropped I don't think is worth even if named R1
To me Tex isn't worth it. He is prices at 82 and only once in his career averaged over that. The loss of Danger from the crows midfield to me will mean less quality being fed into the Fwd line. he does have the big game like most key forwards, but a average score is only 75. Not way am I picking that as there is very little upside.
While I agree Otten doesn't get a game in a fit line up, who do you expect to be a key defender in that back six you posted other than Talia? Both Hartigan and Lever are both in the 22 and Otten will be fighting with those two for a spot and as far as I'm concerned with Seedsman coming in, there is no room for Henderson.

Tex will most likely improve his average actually, won't have Danger turning it over every inside 50 ;) Seriously though, Danger was never the most reliable kick so not sure how him leaving means there will be less quality ball.

LordSneeze

Quote from: TomK on December 17, 2015, 02:11:47 AM
Quote from: LordSneeze on December 17, 2015, 01:50:13 AM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on December 17, 2015, 12:47:56 AM
There are definitely much better options than hibberd.
I'd stick with swallow... I'd back him to go 105-110 this year even though 100-105 is more realistic!
Is that Tex or Andrew Walker? Assuming it's tex as he's killing pre season!
Is he there to trade out round 1 after his 170 or as a keeper because I don't see him being one... Even though I'm backing him in for the Coleman this year!
Ive had a closer look into the Crows team this evening and Otten will be coming out of my backline. I just cannot see how he will break into the side. Currently they have
Laird, Henderson, Smith/Seedsman (One on wing), Jaensch, Brown, Talia as a solid starting 6. There is probably 1 spot free being fought between Cheney, Lever, Kelly, Hampton, Hartigan & Otten. Id have him 4th in that list.
If he somehow does he will likely average 65 which with the risk of not laying, getting dropped I don't think is worth even if named R1
To me Tex isn't worth it. He is prices at 82 and only once in his career averaged over that. The loss of Danger from the crows midfield to me will mean less quality being fed into the Fwd line. he does have the big game like most key forwards, but a average score is only 75. Not way am I picking that as there is very little upside.
While I agree Otten doesn't get a game in a fit line up, who do you expect to be a key defender in that back six you posted other than Talia? Both Hartigan and Lever are both in the 22 and Otten will be fighting with those two for a spot and as far as I'm concerned with Seedsman coming in, there is no room for Henderson.

Tex will most likely improve his average actually, won't have Danger turning it over every inside 50 ;) Seriously though, Danger was never the most reliable kick so not sure how him leaving means there will be less quality ball.

News has come out that both Otten and Henderson have had injury setbacks.
I feel Lever has the second tall spot as he can also play on the mid side forwards with Hartigan also in the side, but solely as a second tall defender. Henderson to replace either Hartigan or Lever when he is ready to go. Otten should still be behind Cheney and will need injuries to break into the side.
TBH picking any of these players would be incredibly risky.

While he might improve his average slightly i still don't see him as a potential keeper (100+). Low qwuality ball is better than no ball at all.  ;D

TomK

Quote from: LordSneeze on December 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
While he might improve his average slightly i still don't see him as a potential keeper (100+). Low qwuality ball is better than no ball at all.  ;D
Yeah fair enough, I dont see him as a keeper either plus he'd be inconsistent but I don't see him as the worst option.
Hahahahah yes fair enough, good point ;D

LordSneeze

Update time

Def - Simpson, Bartel, Broadbent, Hibberd, Francis, Brown (Clayton, Bonner)
Mids - Pendles, Ablett, Rocky, Gibbs, Libba, Crouch, Mills, Parish (Keays, Fordham, Dunkley)
Rucks - Martin, Nic Nat (Currie)
Fwds - Lids, Barlow, Tippett, Wright, Wells, Petracca (Kerridge, Rose)