Goldstein - To start or to not start, that is the question

[Ricochet]

He is not worth the price tag but because there are only 2 positions, it makes it hard picking 2 keepers 1 not being goldy

Yep exactly. Only reason I'm paying top dollar for him tbh

[Spotted gum]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

[eaglesman]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

I am going to flirt with exactly this later today and try out some combinations - pretty sure it won't benefit me enough to follow through with it though

[Marstar]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

Only if Sinclair raises his average to 100+ and you upgrade to Goldstien the same time they bandwagon Sinclair.

That would be a massive victory ... but can he raise by 25+ppg ?

[eaglesman]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

Only if Sinclair raises his average to 100+ and you upgrade to Goldstien the same time they bandwagon Sinclair.

That would be a massive victory ... but can he raise by 25+ppg ?

Bandwagon Sinclair? What does this mean

[Spotted gum]

I think he can. He has always had to play 2nd fiddle and bows his chance. Coming into the right age for a ruckman and he goes forward and will kick a goal most games. The rest of my side looks so much stronger with that cash spent elsewhere

[piesfan1989]

He;s still playing second fiddle...tippett looks to be the preferred no. 1 ruck?

[Marstar]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

Only if Sinclair raises his average to 100+ and you upgrade to Goldstien the same time they bandwagon Sinclair.

That would be a massive victory ... but can he raise by 25+ppg ?

Bandwagon Sinclair? What does this mean

It means every man and his Dog buy him.

[eaglesman]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

Only if Sinclair raises his average to 100+ and you upgrade to Goldstien the same time they bandwagon Sinclair.

That would be a massive victory ... but can he raise by 25+ppg ?

Bandwagon Sinclair? What does this mean

It means every man and his Dog buy him.

What relevance does that have to anything though? I'm sorry but I don't understand what your main point is by hoping to trade sinclair out the same moment the bandwagon buys him ... Just don't get this statement at all - please explain

[Big Mac]

At the moment in my ever evolving team, I have Sinclair and Gawn. The plan being that I will turn my mid price player in the forward line to goldy when the time is right and Sinclair goes forward, eventually becoming my f7 and ruck cover. This dreaming or solid?

Only if Sinclair raises his average to 100+ and you upgrade to Goldstien the same time they bandwagon Sinclair.

That would be a massive victory ... but can he raise by 25+ppg ?

Bandwagon Sinclair? What does this mean

It means every man and his Dog buy him.

What relevance does that have to anything though? I'm sorry but I don't understand what your main point is by hoping to trade sinclair out the same moment the bandwagon buys him ... Just don't get this statement at all - please explain

Don't think he wants to trade out Sinclair, just move into the forwards

[Colley Dogs]

Yesterday, for the first time since SC 2016 opened, I downgraded Goldy to NicNat (my R2 is S. Martin). Boy, did that cash solve a number of problems for me!

But tonight I promptly reinstated Goldy into my team. The reason is simple: because there are only two players in this position, the stakes are considerably higher. This isn't like choosing three from six ultra-premium midfielders, where you almost kinda can't lose. To truly set-and-forget you need to go 2-for-2. And the one thing you can count on - should he play 22 games - is that Goldy will be in the top 2 Rucks in the comp. I'd bet my house that he'll be the top Ruck (it doesn't matter whether he averages 130, 120, or 115). That being the case, the question isn't Goldy, the question is who at R2 from Martin, Jacobs, Mumford, NicNat, Jamar et. al.

Don't bet on two 'value' Rucks and think you'll sideways swap to Goldy later. SC just never works out that smoothly. The mistake here is planning a fire to put out later when there are going to be plenty of other fires to put out you hadn't planned for.

You absolutely need to lock down the players that are guarantees, and Goldy is one of only a handful in this category.

[blue]

If you start with 2 ruck premos, one of them has to be Goldy.

You just can't leave him out for the entire year.

That being said, I've been toying with the idea of starting Tippet in the ruck and floating him down forward later in the season to be able to bring Goldy in.

For the love of god can someone tell me where the love for tippet has come from.
Top 5 ruck?
Top 15 forwards?

As for goody, he is a must have.

[cortez]

I can see both Martin going 110+ maybe 115. and Goldy won't go 120+ ill put my house on it. There is no much more else where you can make up those extra 5 - 10 points per week for 130-130K

For example:
Wines > Danger
Ward > Fyfe
Duncan > Pendles
Suckling >Houli
Birchall > Shaw
McCathy > Wells

I could go on but you get my drift.
All of the optionsplus more make you more points than Having Goldy over the next couple

[Colley Dogs]

I can see both Martin going 110+ maybe 115. and Goldy won't go 120+ ill put my house on it. There is no much more else where you can make up those extra 5 - 10 points per week for 130-130K

For example:
Wines > Danger
Ward > Fyfe
Duncan > Pendles
Suckling >Houli
Birchall > Shaw
McCathy > Wells

I could go on but you get my drift.
All of the optionsplus more make you more points than Having Goldy over the next couple

But Cortez... I already have Fyfe, Danger, Plendles, Shaw, Houli, and Wells. So who else can I improve... Crouch to Parker? I have Parker.

The place where I've got my money is F3 (I'm currently starting with 2 ultra-premiums, followed by Wells, Kerridge, Kennedy, Menadue, Milera, McDonald-Tippa). So which of these Rookie Forwards can the money from not having Goldy improve that justifies betting against him?

For me, this isn't a question of what Goldy will average, but whether he will be in the top two Rucks. And for him to be the second highest scoring Ruck it will take either Martin or NicNat averaging 116+ (Mumford won't play a full season). Goldy won't score below 115. I'd bank on 118+. And I'm prepared to pay that coin because I think's more chance of Goldy scoring 115+ than Martin scoring 115. I currently have both, and will be disappointed with anything less than 225 gross. No other combination will come close to this imo.

Pay the money. Deal with the pain. And focus your energy on the other lines. This has been my mantra this pre-season.

[cortez]

I can see both Martin going 110+ maybe 115. and Goldy won't go 120+ ill put my house on it. There is no much more else where you can make up those extra 5 - 10 points per week for 130-130K

For example:
Wines > Danger
Ward > Fyfe
Duncan > Pendles
Suckling >Houli
Birchall > Shaw
McCathy > Wells

I could go on but you get my drift.
All of the optionsplus more make you more points than Having Goldy over the next couple

But Cortez... I already have Fyfe, Danger, Plendles, Shaw, Houli, and Wells. So who else can I improve... Crouch to Parker? I have Parker.

The place where I've got my money is F3 (I'm currently starting with 2 ultra-premiums, followed by Wells, Kerridge, Kennedy, Menadue, Milera, McDonald-Tippa). So which of these Rookie Forwards can the money from not having Goldy improve that justifies betting against him?

For me, this isn't a question of what Goldy will average, but whether he will be in the top two Rucks. And for him to be the second highest scoring Ruck it will take either Martin or NicNat averaging 116+ (Mumford won't play a full season). Goldy won't score below 115. I'd bank on 118+. And I'm prepared to pay that coin because I think's more chance of Goldy scoring 115+ than Martin scoring 115. I currently have both, and will be disappointed with anything less than 225 gross. No other combination will come close to this imo.

Pay the money. Deal with the pain. And focus your energy on the other lines.

Martin without Leuey in 2015 (including when Leuey went down in first term in round 18):
95, 140, 120, 135, 112, 119, 108, 84, 159

So in 9 games last year without Leuey Martin averaged 119 with some pretty consistent scores. Without Leuenberger this year he has the ability to average this in 2016 which will definitely give him a top two ruck position.

Naitanui has had one of his best pre-seasons and looks to be injury free after playing 20 games last year. We all know what this guy is capabe of and there is nothing furthur to say about him.

Jacobs in 2014 averaged 115. In his last 10 games last year he averaged 116 so yes this bloke is capable of a massive average too.

Gawn, Every year there is a ruckman who comes out of nowhere. Martin in 2014, Maric in 2012, Jacobs in 2014, Minson in 2013 etc. This year could be that year where this bloke goes 115.

As i have stated before each year since 2010 no ruckman has backed up with two years in a row in the number one spot
and only 4 players have ever averaged over 120 two years in a row. it is a hard feat that only the very best can do.

Before last year Goldsteins highest average was 113 in a season.
We shouldn't be talking about this bloke as he is a God in supercoach. There is only one God in supercoach and even he is the son of God.

History shows that the ruck position is very up and down year to year on who the absolute top scorers are. Yes there are the ones who stay premiums year after year but to stay ultra premium in this position is historically very hard to do.