MS 2K16 Team Thread

[GCSkiwi]

Naitanui games played

2009 - 10
2010 - 22
2011 - 20
2012 - 11
2014 - 20
2015 - 20

2009 was his rookie year so only 2012 was a problem. I would say only Goldy and Jacobs have had a better run over the last 5 years

In terms of games played, sure. In terms of points scored? Not so much.

2009 - 57.4
2010 - 71.2
2011 -  93.8
2012 - 114.2
2013 - 96.1
2014 - 90.8
2015 - 103.9


If you're looking to take a cheaper option in the ruck, NicNat is the pick. But I don't see any reason to expect him to improve drastically on the last couple of years.

Goldy:
2011 - 21 - 113.19
2012 - 20 - 93.05
2013 - 22 - 113.55
2014 - 21 - 106.86
2015 - 21 - 128.81

Sauce:
2011 - 19 - 92.7
2012 - 21 - 102.1
2013 - 22 - 85.3
2014 - 22 - 115.4
2015 - 21 - 107.9

Smartin:
2011 - 21 - 85.9
2012 - 7 - 78.4
2013 - 5 - 45
2014 - 12 - 111.7
2015 - 20 - 110.7

Mummy:
2011 - 17 - 112.6
2012 - 14 - 91
2013 - 19 - 91.9
2014 - 17 - 114.2
2015 - 11 - 105.7


Mummy's issue is durability, Smartin has excelled with a regular gig, Sauce is consistently good and inconsistently great, Goldy is a machine.

Tippett:

2011 - 18 - 72.4
2012 - 18 - 86.5
2013 - 10 - 89.8
2014 - 11 - 75.4
2015 - 20 - 89.6

Again, go with your gut...

[fasttrack13]

Sounds like Smiths role won't change to much.


The skilful Crow spent more time on the wing this year and could continue to earn more midfield minutes given the addition of versatile pair Paul Seedsman and Curtly Hampton.

But Pyke said Smith’s effectiveness down back remained a valuable weapon.

“I probably see Brodie more as a rebounding defender,” Pyke said in afc.com.au’s exclusive Fans on One feature.

“I know last (season) they explored him a little bit up on the wing, and we’ll probably do the same next year.

“But he’s an All Australian half-back for a reason. I think that’s probably his best spot.”


http://www.afc.com.au/news/2015-12-03/back-best-for-brodie

If they did trial him on the wing this year then he goes back to HB where he averaged 90... With general improvement year to year he will probably be around 95-100.

[Money Shot]

You guys are making me doubt Tippet :o

Might bring Grundy in as another pod. Tippet is in for now though but not as confident!

[GCSkiwi]

You guys are making me doubt Tippet :o

Might bring Grundy in as another pod. Tippet is in for now though but not as confident!

Actually in crunching the numbers, in the last 5 years Tippett has played 77 games at an average of 82.9 ppg, Mummy has played 78 games at an average of 103.1  :o

Just putting it out there because I've seen Tippett in a few teams and no-one is going near Mummy!

[Money Shot]

TEAM NAME: Money Shot
DEF: H. Shaw, B. Smith, N. Malceski, E. Mackenzie, R. Bonner, M. Brown (M. Hibberd, D. Tucker)
MID: N. Fyfe, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, B. Crouch, R. Clarke, J. Dunkley (B. Keays, R. Mathieson, L. Partington)
RUC: N. Naitanui, B. Grundy (C. Loersch)
FWD: B. Deledio, L. Montagna, L. Dahlhaus, H. Bennell, M. Leuenberger, C. Petracca (M. Adams, H. Balic)
CASH LEFT: $18,200

Out goes Tippet in comes Grundy.
Looked a little bit into the rookies and I am confident that I will be able to get 4 defenders at 117k that will play.

[GCSkiwi]

... I like Tippett more than Grundy   ;D

Haha nah I think Grundy is an ok pick. I guess the perspective I have on it is this: Everyone's goal is to end up with the best team they can field in the shortest time possible. That means picking players you think will be one of 3 things:

1) Amongst the best players in their position
2) A low priced player to make good money but maybe not the most points
3) A mid pricer who won't make tons of money but will hopefully score ok and be an easy upgrade later on

Which category would you fit Tippett or Grundy in? Because to me, the answer is "none of the above", and therefore I wouldn't pick them.

With only 2 rucks, you really want to have 2 of the top 5, and most years there are a couple that really lead the pack. Also there's bugger all available in the low price category, and Leuey is really the only one who seems viable as a mid pricer. So aside from taking a punt on Leuey, I think your rucks have to be people you fit in category 1, the keepers. Last season the top 5 on total points were Goldy, Sauce, Sandi, Smartin, Blitz; and the top 5 on average ppg were Goldy, Smartin, Sauce, Sandi, Mummy. If we include Tippett on total/average, he would be 8th on total points and 11th on average ppg. Grundy 9th on total points and 10th on average ppg. So they're pretty similar, but not at that top level. It should also be noted there is a cliff from 7th (Maric) with 2004 total points to Tippett with 1793 total points in 8th. Similarly on average ppg Gawn at 8th is 102ppg, Maric at 9th is 95.

As an aside, NicNat is 6th on total and 7th on average. So he's definitely worth considering just not someone I'm too fussed on myself. But I'm actually liking him more when I look at the numbers, just don't really see a big reason for him to improve his scores.

So basically, it would take a pretty massive improvement from either Grundy or Tippett for them to crack into that top level, and I think you have to be picking out of that top 5 zone. Though NicNat and Maric aren't impossibly far behind.

Lots of people are balking at Goldy's big price tag, this season he scored 2705 points, Sauce in second place scored 2267...

[Money Shot]

TEAM NAME: My Planned Super Coach
DEF: H. Shaw, J. McVeigh, B. Smith, N. Malceski, A. Francis, M. Brown (M. Hibberd, D. Tucker)
MID: N. Fyfe, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, B. Crouch, R. Clarke, J. Dunkley (B. Keays, R. Mathieson, L. Partington)
RUC: N. Naitanui, M. Leuenberger (C. Loersch)
FWD: B. Deledio, L. Montagna, L. Dahlhaus, H. Bennell, C. Petracca, M. Adams (H. Balic, M. Redman)
CASH LEFT: $9,500

I think this is a very solid side.
Leunberger will get upgraded to Goldy when it best fits.

4 keepers in defense (I think Malceski will go back too his best)
6 keepers in midfield (Libba and Crouch should do enough to be keepers)
2 keepers in the ruck (Leuy will probably get traded although he may not need to be)
4 keepers in the forwards (Might have the top 4 forwards in my starting side)

[fasttrack13]

TEAM NAME: My Planned Super Coach
DEF: H. Shaw, J. McVeigh, B. Smith, N. Malceski, A. Francis, M. Brown (M. Hibberd, D. Tucker)
MID: N. Fyfe, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, B. Crouch, R. Clarke, J. Dunkley (B. Keays, R. Mathieson, L. Partington)
RUC: N. Naitanui, M. Leuenberger (C. Loersch)
FWD: B. Deledio, L. Montagna, L. Dahlhaus, H. Bennell, C. Petracca, M. Adams (H. Balic, M. Redman)
CASH LEFT: $9,500

I think this is a very solid side.
Leunberger will get upgraded to Goldy when it best fits.

4 keepers in defense (I think Malceski will go back too his best)
6 keepers in midfield (Libba and Crouch should do enough to be keepers)
2 keepers in the ruck (Leuy will probably get traded although he may not need to be)
4 keepers in the forwards (Might have the top 4 forwards in my starting side)

G'day MS,
like this team a lot better...
I think with the rucks its either you pick top 5 ruckmen or players who will make more than 100k to trade up to a top 5 ruck...
You have selected one of each with nicnat and leuy!
Neither grundy or tippett will be top 5 ruckmen, so best not to pick them.
took me a while to work that out!

[Money Shot]

TEAM NAME: SQUAD
DEF: H. Shaw, J. McVeigh, B. Smith, N. Malceski, R. Bonner, M. Brown (M. Hibberd, D. Tucker)
MID: N. Fyfe, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, B. Crouch, C. Mills, J. Dunkley (B. Keays, R. Mathieson, L. Partington)
RUC: N. Naitanui, M. Leuenberger (M. King)
FWD: B. Deledio, D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, H. Bennell, C. Petracca, M. Adams (H. Balic, M. Redman)
CASH LEFT: $10,800

Found a way to get my boy Mills into the side. He could score 100 in his first season he is that good.

[GCSkiwi]

TEAM NAME: SQUAD
DEF: H. Shaw, J. McVeigh, B. Smith, N. Malceski, R. Bonner, M. Brown (M. Hibberd, D. Tucker)
MID: N. Fyfe, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, B. Crouch, C. Mills, J. Dunkley (B. Keays, R. Mathieson, L. Partington)
RUC: N. Naitanui, M. Leuenberger (M. King)
FWD: B. Deledio, D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, H. Bennell, C. Petracca, M. Adams (H. Balic, M. Redman)
CASH LEFT: $10,800

Found a way to get my boy Mills into the side. He could score 100 in his first season he is that good.

Can't really fault this team MS, like it.

My only little tiny teeny weeny comment is I think you're paying overs for Heater, he had a big finish to the year which jacked his average up a bit, but honestly defenders are so hard to pick I don't have a good replacement suggestion :P 600k for a defender is a lot though...

[Ringo]

It is your team MS so up to to you whether you take on board. Nice team that may require a little tweaking.

My little suggestions.
1) As you have King with DPP I would look at getting another Prem Ruck in now so you have set and forget. To achieve that would look at making Mills Wells to give DPP to Fwds, Replace Bennell with Berger  and then your choice of suitably priced rucks. May need to adjust rookies further or downgrade Shaw who I think like Kiwi will drop in price.
2) Would watch Brisbanes pre-season and select which one of Keays or Mattheson is shaping up as both will not play together unless we get a lot of injuries.

[BomberSam]

Looking great MS!

I agree with GCSkiwi, I guarantee Heater will drop in price but by how much is unknown. If he doesn't drop a whole lot, you will be a step ahead, but most teams are counting on him dropping in price enough to pick him up, so keep that in mind. I would personally go to Bartel instead and save yourself an extra 130k, but each to their own and this is why not all teams are the same come round 1.

Also, I would look at adding some ruck cover to your team. Hopefully a cheap f/r rookie plays round 1 and you can replace a rookie currently in your forward line, and leave R3 for a captain's loophole, which I assume is your plan? This is especially important when Leuey is your R2, because we know he is injury-prone.

Otherwise, I do like your rucks, I currently have Nic Nat and Leuey R1 and R2. I have Vardy in the forward line as cover, as you know.

[GraysFan]

I agree with the Shaw comments but I just think him and McVeigh are the only two I am confident in scoring well so I have put them both in and if Shaw loses money so be it.

What about Bartel? He should score fairly well. or even Simpson maybe?

Do love the team though!

[BomberSam]

I agree with the Shaw comments but I just think him and McVeigh are the only two I am confident in scoring well so I have put them both in and if Shaw loses money so be it.

I think if I was too do something It would be ...

Shaw>Mackenzie
Mills>117k rookie
Leuy> MUMMY
117k forward> Leuy

Shaw to McKenzie I assume you mean Eric? I think that would be weakening your defence just a little too much, even though the rest of that plan looks very good.

[fasttrack13]

I think I'm going to risk it and have no ruck cover for now.

I think I would rather an extra 20 points per week and waste a trade or two rather than have Leuy at F4.

I believe that if you got s.martin in for d.martin youd get 10 more points a week anyway and not use any trades...