Rookie discussions and when to cash

[Ringo]

And on cue the usual no rookies on the horizon comments start appearing as rookies get close to maxing out.

it is the same every year but invariably some do surface.  it is a matter of keeping on the second tier competitions.   And for what it is worth would not select Keays, as Rocky and rich will come back this week and beams maybe in 2 weeks so hard to get a price rise out of him.

[MontyJnr]

And on cue the usual no rookies on the horizon comments start appearing as rookies get close to maxing out.

it is the same every year but invariably some do surface.  it is a matter of keeping on the second tier competitions.   And for what it is worth would not select Keays, as Rocky and rich will come back this week and beams maybe in 2 weeks so hard to get a price rise out of him.

You've missed the point. I'm confident there will be plenty of rookies on the horizon.

But there are no decent mid rookies on the bubble this week and there will be none next week unless Goodyear racks up 30 touches and kicks 3.

Going into round 6, it is not out of the question that all of Hewett, Menadue, Mills & Davis won't be playing.
I'd rather offload Hewett now for Parish and make some money rather than tough it out with all 4 potential donuts until Petracca & Keays/"quality horizon rookie" are on the bubble round 6 (best case).

The other issue is I actually have to play 1 of Hewett, Menadue, Mills or Davis on field each week :'(

[jfitty]

I've seen a bit of speculation that Hartley might make room for Grima..

But keep in mind that Geelong's forward line consists of Hawkins, Kersten, Stanley, plus Blicavs and Smith rotating through there. It's very possible the Bombers might just want an extra tall defender in, particularly with Brown spending some time up forward..

I traded Hartley in last week so am a little biased I'll admit 8)

[sammy123]

just reading the article about state leagues.

petracca again playing well. he will be in the demons side very soon i would think

[jvalles69]

With most rookies having a poor week is there a real danger that the forward and mid benches could be empty ? Menadue , Short , Hewitt , Papley , Milera even Mills and Davis were not very good and unless there is an influx of newbies it is looking grim ?

This is what i'm worried about. Parish & Oliver looked great on the weekend around the contest, so does it suddenly become a priority to jump on these guys before their prices rise out of reach and we're stuck with too many deadwood rookies?

Sure, Petracca & Keays could debut this week. But by the time both of those guys are on the bubble, all of Hewett, Menadue, Mills & Davis could be maxed out in value or worse, dropped.

Worst case, trade Keays and Petracca in before the bubble, no biggie, everyone will be in the same boat.

You should be looking to get an edge on the competition though and cash generation is a priority for me.

What would you rather?
Parish, Oliver, Petracca & Keays all making money for you in round 5 or,
Petracca, Keays & then deadwood donuts from 2 of Hewett/Menadue/Mills/Davis?

Cash generation is key, but you're saying these guys will have maxed out and aren't going to play any more which we have no idea of apart from each teams selection committee.  Just cos they aren't scoring well in fantasy is not enough reason for a coach to drop them!  Anyone of those guys has a blinder and they will be back to a -ve BE.  Who's to say Keays plays one game and gets dropped for Rocky, Parish will surely get managed throughout the year, his body won't hold up week in week out.

[_wato]

That's all it boils down to. Fantasy does not = output within a game.

[MontyJnr]

With most rookies having a poor week is there a real danger that the forward and mid benches could be empty ? Menadue , Short , Hewitt , Papley , Milera even Mills and Davis were not very good and unless there is an influx of newbies it is looking grim ?

This is what i'm worried about. Parish & Oliver looked great on the weekend around the contest, so does it suddenly become a priority to jump on these guys before their prices rise out of reach and we're stuck with too many deadwood rookies?

Sure, Petracca & Keays could debut this week. But by the time both of those guys are on the bubble, all of Hewett, Menadue, Mills & Davis could be maxed out in value or worse, dropped.

Worst case, trade Keays and Petracca in before the bubble, no biggie, everyone will be in the same boat.

You should be looking to get an edge on the competition though and cash generation is a priority for me.

What would you rather?
Parish, Oliver, Petracca & Keays all making money for you in round 5 or,
Petracca, Keays & then deadwood donuts from 2 of Hewett/Menadue/Mills/Davis?

Cash generation is key, but you're saying these guys will have maxed out and aren't going to play any more which we have no idea of apart from each teams selection committee.  Just cos they aren't scoring well in fantasy is not enough reason for a coach to drop them!  Anyone of those guys has a blinder and they will be back to a -ve BE.  Who's to say Keays plays one game and gets dropped for Rocky, Parish will surely get managed throughout the year, his body won't hold up week in week out.

Jarrad McVeigh is ready to come back into the Swans side.
Hewett collected 3 touches in a full game of football on the weekend.
The Swans have a huge game against Adelaide away next Saturday.
Hewett won't be playing.

[crowls]

Will probably pass on Hartley, his first score in the 80's was a one off IMO, wont be a very high scorer.

Will not get him in unless one of McGovern, McCarthy or Brown are dropped.

Rocky to Parker/Gray will hopefully be my only trade next week

I was thinking the same thing. It's too early to start culling guys because they haven't had a chance to make any cash. I'm not trading someone that's only made 20k for someone that is going to probably score in the 50's most weeks.

Nothing this week, but m brown on radar for early downgrade

M W Brown to Ruggles is what I am looking at now for a few weeks time

Yeah this is looking like an option, I feel Brown is going to be lucky to make 100k, might be worth cutting your loses early

[jvalles69]

With most rookies having a poor week is there a real danger that the forward and mid benches could be empty ? Menadue , Short , Hewitt , Papley , Milera even Mills and Davis were not very good and unless there is an influx of newbies it is looking grim ?

This is what i'm worried about. Parish & Oliver looked great on the weekend around the contest, so does it suddenly become a priority to jump on these guys before their prices rise out of reach and we're stuck with too many deadwood rookies?

Sure, Petracca & Keays could debut this week. But by the time both of those guys are on the bubble, all of Hewett, Menadue, Mills & Davis could be maxed out in value or worse, dropped.

Worst case, trade Keays and Petracca in before the bubble, no biggie, everyone will be in the same boat.

You should be looking to get an edge on the competition though and cash generation is a priority for me.

What would you rather?
Parish, Oliver, Petracca & Keays all making money for you in round 5 or,
Petracca, Keays & then deadwood donuts from 2 of Hewett/Menadue/Mills/Davis?

Cash generation is key, but you're saying these guys will have maxed out and aren't going to play any more which we have no idea of apart from each teams selection committee.  Just cos they aren't scoring well in fantasy is not enough reason for a coach to drop them!  Anyone of those guys has a blinder and they will be back to a -ve BE.  Who's to say Keays plays one game and gets dropped for Rocky, Parish will surely get managed throughout the year, his body won't hold up week in week out.

Jarrad McVeigh is ready to come back into the Swans side.
Hewett collected 3 touches in a full game of football on the weekend.
The Swans have a huge game against Adelaide away next Saturday.
Hewett won't be playing.

1/4 then? So what's happening with the other 3 guys you named, Mills, Davis, Menadue?  I'm sure Hewetts going to be the 1st to go too and I've planned for that, but not sure why you think the other 3 will go?  Mills might get week off, but don't think he'll be completely dropped, GC with more injuries so I don't see Davis going anywhere short term, and Menadue's been doing just fine in the side albeit not setting the world on fire fantasy wise, but like I said, players aren't getting picked for the fantasy prowess.

[Fid]

Next week -the worst performer out of Brown or Menadue for Ruggles is what I will be looking at

[crowls]

Next week -the worst performer out of Brown or Menadue for Ruggles is what I will be looking at

Will you do this if Hewett is dropped?

[fanTCfool]

Next week -the worst performer out of Brown or Menadue for Ruggles is what I will be looking at

Will you do this if Hewett is dropped?

I think we can hang on to Hewett until Keays/Petracca get a run IMO

[frenzy]

I'm hesitant on picking Hartley after reading this from Woosha this morning when asked if Grima would be playing this week

"Grimesy reckons he's ready, he's said that for a few weeks. He's upright out there, so that's good. He's ready to go," coach John Worsfold said on Monday.

"We've been pretty happy with Michael Hartley, so we've got to weigh all that up, but Grima's available this week. We didn't really consider him for selection last week [as we] wanted to get him as fit as we possibly could first."

To me, that sounds like when Grima does come in, Hartley is out

Yep, happy enough to drop him. Grima's first game since 2014 finals series. Reckon he'll need 3 or 4 before a call up. Career ending back injury, major back operation, little if any pre-season and one game in the VFL and he comes straight in to the team at the expense of a guy they're happy with.  :o

[Fid]

Next week -the worst performer out of Brown or Menadue for Ruggles is what I will be looking at

Will you do this if Hewett is dropped?

I don't have Hewett, but if I did it still would depend on how the other two perform

[crowls]

Next week -the worst performer out of Brown or Menadue for Ruggles is what I will be looking at

Will you do this if Hewett is dropped?

I think we can hang on to Hewett until Keays/Petracca get a run IMO

Any guide on when they will be back.   Also freeman likely candidate in next couple of weeks as well.