WXV International Draft 2015

Started by Purple 77, November 25, 2015, 12:29:45 PM

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RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Question

If someone puts up their 3rd or 4th rounder for example, then it means our next best is PSD 1

We don't want to use PSD 1, so could we actually just beat the 3rd/4th rounder by putting up 38?

Seems silly if we couldn't

I know this would mean that any pick earlier or before 38 would be beaten by us putting up 38, but it seems wrong that we want to use a better pick and wouldn't be able to

Once you skip it though it no longer exists.

Well we wouldn't skip it - we would use it to pick Brown

I know but to me you use pick 38, or if you skip it and then someone bids at pick 39 then you no longer have the pick.

Yeah that's fair and makes sense. We either use 38 to pick him normally, or we just pass on him all together (because we wouldn't waste PSD 1 on him)

@ Ringo - I'm saying that we will use N38 to pick him right now, so if anyone wants to use an earlier pick than that they are wasting their pick because as per rules our later pick would trump them

Purple 77

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Question

If someone puts up their 3rd or 4th rounder for example, then it means our next best is PSD 1

We don't want to use PSD 1, so could we actually just beat the 3rd/4th rounder by putting up 38?

Seems silly if we couldn't

I know this would mean that any pick earlier or before 38 would be beaten by us putting up 38, but it seems wrong that we want to use a better pick and wouldn't be able to

Of course :) Then the only bids that could beat it would be New Delhi at 18 or higher

Quote from: Ringo on November 26, 2015, 10:28:07 AM
Is this a possible scenario and may be taking it to the extreme.  New York say they will leave Brown in the National Draft and not start a bidding war, Then they pick him up if still available with the N38 bid.  My redaing of the Ossie explanation is that NY can choose not to exercise their option hence no bids.

Yup; if New York don't nominate him, then he won't go up for auction and will enter the draft like every other draftee. Likewise with Menegola.

Holz

I wanted Mengola but know i know somebody with a higher pick then mine wants him so bid away Moscow :P

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Purple 77 on November 26, 2015, 10:43:21 AM
Yup; if New York don't nominate him, then he won't go up for auction and will enter the draft like every other draftee. Likewise with Menegola.

Now I'm getting confused lol

He isn't going to be picked in the top 15 (LOL it's just Mitch Brown) so if he somehow went at 16-18 then we would need to use 19 if we wanted him, and if he goes at 21-37 then we use 38, and then if he doesn't go at all we can just use 38 when it's up

Is this right?

And what happens to the teams pick who uses the earlier pick only for us to get him with our later pick?

Purple 77

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 26, 2015, 10:43:21 AM
Yup; if New York don't nominate him, then he won't go up for auction and will enter the draft like every other draftee. Likewise with Menegola.

Now I'm getting confused lol

He isn't going to be picked in the top 15 (LOL it's just Mitch Brown) so if he somehow went at 16-18 then we would need to use 19 if we wanted him, and if he goes at 21-37 then we use 38, and then if he doesn't go at all we can just use 38 when it's up

Is this right?

And what happens to the teams pick who uses the earlier pick only for us to get him with our later pick?

You have an advantage if you want Mitch Brown; you can nominate him for a bidding process.

The bidding will start at like, a 4th round rookie draft pick, and keep going up through the two rounds of the PSD and then the rounds of the international draft.

IF a team bids a pick from 21-37, then you can match the bid with Pick 38 if you want to.

IF a team bids a pick from 1-18, then you can match the bid with Pick 19 if you want to.

If you don't want to put Mitch Brown up for auction, then he'll enter the draft normally, and lose any advantage you have to select him.

RaisyDaisy

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Quote from: Purple 77 on November 26, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
If you don't want to put Mitch Brown up for auction, then he'll enter the draft normally, and lose any advantage you have to select him.

So if we nominate him, then we can match a first or second round pick with 19 or 38, but is he still in the NAT draft so we can just pick him with 38 and no one else does before that pick?

Because if teams are allowed to use later picks to bid on him Eg 3rd or 4th rounder, we don't have any later picks to use (Don't want to use PSD1) but it sounds like by nominating him he wouldn't be in the NAT draft for us to select with 38?

Nige

Yes. That's how it'll work.

You can not nominate and run the risk of hoping he lasts until 38 and grab him that way rather than forfeiting the pick (well, using it on him) before it even starts.

Really depends on how much you want him.

meow meow

Quote from: Hellopplz on November 25, 2015, 11:55:05 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 25, 2015, 10:55:19 PM
it took me 15min to go through and find a list of players i liked
I made my list ages ago, didn't matter where people went they had an order before and mostly stayed the same after the draft :P.

Me too. That's why I've got no picks :P

Holz

Quote from: Nige on November 26, 2015, 11:13:52 AM

Really depends on how much you want him.

16 something games over 4 years. pumping out an average of nearly 50.

gun.

in contention for me at pick 5.

Ricochet

Looking forward to this. WXVs drafts are a lot different to the other XV ones where midfielders may dominate.
Defenders/Fwds/Rucks have a lot more potential in this comp

Who'll be the next Rance/Gibson?

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 26, 2015, 11:13:52 AM

Really depends on how much you want him.

16 something games over 4 years. pumping out an average of nearly 50.

gun.

in contention for me at pick 5.

Haha

I think he has a better chance of getting a game for Essendon than he did at the Premiership contending Cats


Nige

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 04:35:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 26, 2015, 11:13:52 AM

Really depends on how much you want him.

16 something games over 4 years. pumping out an average of nearly 50.

gun.

in contention for me at pick 5.

Haha

I think he has a better chance of getting a game for Essendon than he did at the Premiership contending Cats
Had a few injuries as well iirc during his time at Geelong also.

Levi434

Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 26, 2015, 11:13:52 AM

Really depends on how much you want him.

16 something games over 4 years. pumping out an average of nearly 50.

gun.

in contention for me at pick 5.

You'll be lucky if he slides past my Nat 2  :-X

Ricochet

Rookie Draft and Preseason Draft done, time to get those list lodgements in boys! Lets get this started

Purple 77

Alrighty,

Sam Menegola (Moscow) & Mitch W Brown (New York) bidding is now open! You have until 11.59 PM AEDST tomorrow night (Nov 30th) to bid on them. On December 1st morning, Moscow & New York will decide if they want to match the bid or not, and they will find a home before the draft starts.

New Delhi chose not to nominate Samuel Reid (GWS), and will enter the draft normally.

So... go nuts! Menegola is currently matched by Moscow at Rookie Pick 67, and Brown is currently matched by New York at Rookie Pick 65. PSD Picks are rated higher than rookie picks, and international draft picks are rated higher than PSD picks.