WXV International Draft 2015

Started by Purple 77, November 25, 2015, 12:29:45 PM

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Nige

It's not like the AFL's academy bidding though, it's basically an auction.

I'm almost certain that's how it worked last time with would.

Best/highest price (pick) wins. You guys simply get first crack as you were his last owners before he was no longer in the comp.

Nige

Found it.

Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2013, 08:25:27 AM
Draft Bidding

Sometimes we are forced to make decisions we don't want! Cameron Wood was delisted by Collingwood at the end of 2012, therefore forcing Pacific to delist him. This is the only case I can find (let me know if I've missed someone). Wood has now been drafted again.

So, in fairness to Pacific, they should get the oppurtunity to draft him back.

We will do a father-son like bidding system.

The 17 other teams (not Pacific) have the oppurtunity to bid which round they would pick Cameron Wood in. Pacific then get the oppurtunity to match it. I.e:

Beijing bid there 3rd round pick on Cameron Wood. If Pacific don't want to pay a 3rd round pick, Beijing have to use a 3rd round pick to select him (Pick 41). If Pacific want him, they'll have to use a 3rd round pick on him (Pick 53). So Pacific would win that battle, even though Beijing's pick is higher.

Alternatively, Mexico City might bid there 3rd round pick (pick 56), but since Pacific's 3rd round pick is earlier (pick 53) they would only need to match it with there next pick (which would be a 6th round pick as it currently stands).

So Pacifc clearly have the advantage, but if other teams want him, they get the oppurtunity.

..... So, happy for people to raise thoughts, etc... But let the bidding start NOW!

Bidding will end once drafting starts, at which point Pacific will need to decide whether to match the offer or not.

You can also bid with rookie draft rounds (not preseason though)

Ricochet

Quote from: Nige on November 26, 2015, 12:48:10 AM
It's not like the AFL's academy bidding though, it's basically an auction.

I'm almost certain that's how it worked last time with would.

Best/highest price (pick) wins. You guys simply get first crack as you were his last owners before he was no longer in the comp.
Nah man they only have to match bids with their next pick, not go first

Nige

So, if I'm reading that right, if we bid N42 for example, NY would have to bid N38 (because they don't have a third rounder) to get Brown (unless another team goes higher than ours). Using 38 on Brown means they won't get to use PSD1 though.

Quote from: Ricochet on November 26, 2015, 12:57:20 AM
Nah man they only have to match bids with their next pick, not go first
Yeah, my bad. Found the original bidding post from Oss as you can see above.

Hellopplz

Think if you bid N42, since they have no picks after N38, they'd have to use PSD1 on Mitch Brown. However, say somebody bid N36. New York would be required to bid their next round pick in order to land Brown, which would be N38 in this case.

So basically New York can sit back and see who would want their player and if a bid comes in, they can choose to match it with their next pick (in order from Nat to PSD, or Rookie Pick should nobody want Brown in the Nat or PSD).

So rather than an auction, it's basically whenever somebody makes an intention to pick the player by actually using a pick on Brown, to which New York has a chance to respond (like the real draft). So people can't bluff pick somebody to increase what New York have to give :P.

Holz

Quote from: Hellopplz on November 26, 2015, 01:07:48 AM
Think if you bid N42, since they have no picks after N38, they'd have to use PSD1 on Mitch Brown. However, say somebody bid N36. New York would be required to bid their next round pick in order to land Brown, which would be N38 in this case.

So basically New York can sit back and see who would want their player and if a bid comes in, they can choose to match it with their next pick (in order from Nat to PSD, or Rookie Pick should nobody want Brown in the Nat or PSD).

So rather than an auction, it's basically whenever somebody makes an intention to pick the player by actually using a pick on Brown, to which New York has a chance to respond (like the real draft). So people can't bluff pick somebody to increase what New York have to give :P.

Completely unfair. They traded away their picks thats their problem.

If you bid a 3Rd round I reckon a 4th round is needed at a minimum

Hellopplz

Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 01:26:33 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 26, 2015, 01:07:48 AM
Think if you bid N42, since they have no picks after N38, they'd have to use PSD1 on Mitch Brown. However, say somebody bid N36. New York would be required to bid their next round pick in order to land Brown, which would be N38 in this case.

So basically New York can sit back and see who would want their player and if a bid comes in, they can choose to match it with their next pick (in order from Nat to PSD, or Rookie Pick should nobody want Brown in the Nat or PSD).

So rather than an auction, it's basically whenever somebody makes an intention to pick the player by actually using a pick on Brown, to which New York has a chance to respond (like the real draft). So people can't bluff pick somebody to increase what New York have to give :P.
Completely unfair. They traded away their picks thats their problem.

If you bid a 3Rd round I reckon a 4th round is needed at a minimum
Given, if somebody does bid that, they'd have to bid PSD1 to get Brown, which is arguably worth more than Brown, so depends how badly they want him ;). So tricky position for them to be in themselves.

Holz

Everything is worth more thrn brown aka cap points

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Hellopplz on November 26, 2015, 01:07:48 AM
So basically New York can sit back and see who would want their player and if a bid comes in, they can choose to match it with their next pick (in order from Nat to PSD, or Rookie Pick should nobody want Brown in the Nat or PSD).

This is how I understand it after reading Ossies explanation. Basically, if anyone bids on him we just have to put up our next best available pick if we want him

Because NAT 38 is our last pick, it would then go to PSD picks then Rookie picks

Don't get me wrong, we'd like to have him back but I'm not going to get caught up in a bidding war just for the  thrill of it. If someone wants to pay more than our 2Nd rounder (38) then lol good luck

We can always delist another player now to use 38 too ;)

Purple 77

Right, so yeah Pick 38 still comes into play for Mitch Brown.

I also forgot about PSD Picks, so if someone bids Pick 39 for Brown, New York can match it with PSD 1

RaisyDaisy

Question

If someone puts up their 3rd or 4th rounder for example, then it means our next best is PSD 1

We don't want to use PSD 1, so could we actually just beat the 3rd/4th rounder by putting up 38?

Seems silly if we couldn't

I know this would mean that any pick earlier or before 38 would be beaten by us putting up 38, but it seems wrong that we want to use a better pick and wouldn't be able to

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Question

If someone puts up their 3rd or 4th rounder for example, then it means our next best is PSD 1

We don't want to use PSD 1, so could we actually just beat the 3rd/4th rounder by putting up 38?

Seems silly if we couldn't

I know this would mean that any pick earlier or before 38 would be beaten by us putting up 38, but it seems wrong that we want to use a better pick and wouldn't be able to

Once you skip it though it no longer exists.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Question

If someone puts up their 3rd or 4th rounder for example, then it means our next best is PSD 1

We don't want to use PSD 1, so could we actually just beat the 3rd/4th rounder by putting up 38?

Seems silly if we couldn't

I know this would mean that any pick earlier or before 38 would be beaten by us putting up 38, but it seems wrong that we want to use a better pick and wouldn't be able to

Once you skip it though it no longer exists.

Well we wouldn't skip it - we would use it to pick Brown

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
Quote from: Holz on November 26, 2015, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 26, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Question

If someone puts up their 3rd or 4th rounder for example, then it means our next best is PSD 1

We don't want to use PSD 1, so could we actually just beat the 3rd/4th rounder by putting up 38?

Seems silly if we couldn't

I know this would mean that any pick earlier or before 38 would be beaten by us putting up 38, but it seems wrong that we want to use a better pick and wouldn't be able to

Once you skip it though it no longer exists.

Well we wouldn't skip it - we would use it to pick Brown

I know but to me you use pick 38, or if you skip it and then someone bids at pick 39 then you no longer have the pick.

Ringo

Is this a possible scenario and may be taking it to the extreme.  New York say they will leave Brown in the National Draft and not start a bidding war, Then they pick him up if still available with the N38 bid.  My redaing of the Ossie explanation is that NY can choose not to exercise their option hence no bids.