Ringos Rocky Road 2016

[fanTCfool]

Interested to know why you dropped Bartel & Simmo? Just didn't fit the new structure?

[Ringo]

Still may make it - Backs are always up and down.  Alarm Bells on bartel started ringing with the way Geelong were using him in NAB.  Injury to Thurlow may now change that. 
Dropping both Simmo and Bartel allowed Shaw who I really think is the only defender at this stage who will average 100+.  Was originally targeting him as an upgrade and looking at the draw could not see him dropping more than 60k making it hard to get him in as an upgrade early. Hence why I decided to get him first.
If not comfortable with rookies named will do some further tweaking but as I said defence and mid rookies seem to be plentiful this year.  Even Gault raised his hand with 2 good performances for Pies.

[Fid]

I like the De Goey pick.  He has been in and out of my side for weeks.

I too reckon he'll have a breakout year

[piesfan1989]

Everyone's teams seem to be changing significantly (mine included).

Structure changes are happening all over the place. This year seems like there's no 'safe' team to head into round 1 with. Guns and rookies doesn't really work because there aren't enough reliable rookies to choose from but then the mid price strategy has inherent risks associated to it.

Will Harwood be the Lumumba etc. of 2016? Simpkin, Kennedy... lots of players in this range that don't necessarily have massive upside but do have some value. For me, the laws of probability will prevail and a handful of these players won't perform in the season proper. Wells is the only sure thing in that price range.

I like your team mate, to start with a midfield of ablett, peddles, danger, fyfe, libba and rockliff is ridiculous and won't happen for a long time to come. To me, it just doesn't feel right leaving your fwd/def so exposed, particularly at the start of the season. What happens if one or two of your on-field rookies have a shocking start to the season and get dropped to the vfl for two weeks to improve? I just think it's too much risk, personally.

[RoughRed]

I am a great McGovern fan but he did tweak his shoulder again. He had to play through the pain last year but with McK and Brown back, and given his age, if it flares up IMO he will be rested

[Bully]

Will Harwood be the Lumumba etc. of 2016?

Quite the opposite, I think he will be the Jamie MacMillan of of 2016. It's interesting that people are afraid to pay for mid-pricers in defence yet last year there were plenty that appreciated in value. This year I think guys like Harwood, Aish, Williams, Seedsman, Whitecross etc could really prove to be inspired picks. Not all of course but I predict there will be more winners than losers. Those who select wisely will be near the top of the tree IMO. Same goes for the forwards.

[Ringo]

Just the final update before settling on Rd 1 Team.

must be the right team because it version 13 I have posted here and is on 13/3 so numbers align anyway.  :D



May do some fiddling with rookies when known and go Grundy to Bartel.  Although I think Grundy may be the major benefactor in the Swans line up with Rhyce Shaw's retirement.

Have gone away from the super premo mid field model as i think this structure and team is better balanced with 2 more keepers.  Whoever ends up at D3 I want as keeper but beggars can not be choosy. Defence line has been doing my head in and have gone back to Shaw for reliability with 2 mid pricers who I see as upping their averages to 90+ which will do me for D5/6. Harwood may still become Weitering if I am not happy.

Rucks set and forget - have toyed with the idea of Goldy to Nat/Jacobs/Gawn but keep coming back.

Fwds: 2 prems plus degoey who I am tipping will go close to 90 and sit at F6.  Wells if he lasts the season will sit at F5.

Zorko now a worry in forward line with todays report but he can become Dahlhaus, Martin or Wingard.

Rookies will be adjusted and Ruggles may come in if promoted for Broad or someone else.

Bye Structure: 8/12/10             Keepers: 3/5/6 Very manageable

[sammy123]

very different defence i like it.

mids interesting NO fyfe or danger. good PODS in gray and priddis. not jumping on the crouch train?

solid rucks.

NO dusty? fwd line solid as well

[Ringo]

Post NAB Team slight tweak of previous team.  Harwood had to become Rich. Adjustments allowed Gray to Fyfe.

Rookies subject to being named and think all will bar Petracca who I will keep. Expensive rookies in team but may be adjusted for cheaper ones.

Zorko if gone for more than 2 weeks will become one of martin, Dahlhaus or Wingard.  Fair bench covereage for 2 weeks.

Def: Shaw, Rich, McGovern, Weitering, Brown (Ess), Hartley (Broad, Adams)
Mids: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Menadue (Gresham, Bennedy, Petracca)
Rucks: Goldy, Martin (Cox)
Fwds: Zorko, Barlow, DeGoey, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Grimley. McDonald Tipp)

If I need extra cash for rookie adjustment Fyfe/Pendles will revert to Gray. 

[Ringo]

With Zorkos suspension thinking of going Zorko to Robbo especially with Beams out indefinitely.  Robbo averaged 118 for the 7 games Beams missed at end of last season and 2 tons in NAB cup.  Very Nice pod if that is maintained and could be better than Zorks.   

So Zorko to Robbo - Petracca to Davis (trusting he gets promoted) and Broad (who looks unlikely) to Dea.
Also contemplating Martin to Nic Nat and Priddis to Danger.  Thoughts

[Samm79]

Cannot argue with those changes. Think you're paying overs for Shaw but understand the rational being picking him. That being said if he was a mid you wouldn't pick him so don't know why it's any difference as a defender! Like the Rich pick, has been relatively durable and should improve on the average he's priced at.

Good luck mate

[tttt]

I'm considering d.martin to robinson as well, but worried he is a suspension threat  :-\ :-\ :-\

[piesfan1989]

Cannot argue with those changes. Think you're paying overs for Shaw but understand the rational being picking him. That being said if he was a mid you wouldn't pick him so don't know why it's any difference as a defender! Like the Rich pick, has been relatively durable and should improve on the average he's priced at.

Good luck mate

Youd pick him as a defender because there arent any other high scoring options..to explain a reverse scenario...2 years ago everyone was jumping on pearce hanley as a defender..but when he changed to a mid only, nobody would touch him because there are other mid options..so you wouldnt pick hanley as a mid, but definitely would as a defender. You probably wouldnt have picked bontempelli as a mid but you definitely would consider if he was a fwd/mid this year. Makea complete sense to pick someone based on their position eligibility

[Samm79]

Cannot argue with those changes. Think you're paying overs for Shaw but understand the rational being picking him. That being said if he was a mid you wouldn't pick him so don't know why it's any difference as a defender! Like the Rich pick, has been relatively durable and should improve on the average he's priced at.

Good luck mate

Youd pick him as a defender because there arent any other high scoring options..to explain a reverse scenario...2 years ago everyone was jumping on pearce hanley as a defender..but when he changed to a mid only, nobody would touch him because there are other mid options..so you wouldnt pick hanley as a mid, but definitely would as a defender. You probably wouldnt have picked bontempelli as a mid but you definitely would consider if he was a fwd/mid this year. Makea complete sense to pick someone based on their position eligibility

Understand this theory, but that was not the point I was getting at, I may not have explained it well enough!

What I was getting at was that you're paying overs for him, and if he was a midfielder he is not a value option. You wouldn't pick him as a mid only, not because a 112 average is not good enough, it's because there are better value alternatives available. The Bont and Hanley situation is different as they've never averaged enough to be a keeper mid.

As a back he is the highest scoring option but is far from the best value option. He is a player who in 8 years has only once played more than 20 games and only once averaged more than 101 in that time. You're paying for this player based on a 112 average and isn't good value based on these historic figures.

Almost no doubt he will be one of the top 3 defenders come year end based on ave PPG, most likely the top, but you are paying top dollar for someone who's history suggests he'll miss 3-4 games and drop 5-15PPG. In a game of value and risk taking, this is why I do not consider him to be a good starting option.

[eaglesman]

You like many seem to have gone away from Harwood. He is still in my side and has stayed there for the last week or so. Lost confidence in him? Why?

I wish I had the stones to pick McGovern, high risk and reward selection.

Just moved robbo back into my side, was contemplating him before beams injury but they helped that pick along.
I like the cheap backline.

What's your thoughts on rich? I won't be picking him but interested to see why you are considering him as I have always regarded him very unreliable and one I could never see being common sense selection?