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Started by lachie_001, September 16, 2015, 07:49:29 PM

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lachie_001

Already a bit of talk around us.

Curtly Hampton has chosen Adelaide as his club of choice.

Expressed interest in Paul Seedsman and Scharenberg.

Will we match Geelongs offer if Danger decides to go?

TomK

Where did you hear Seedsman?

Grazz

I really don't see the point in matching the Cats offer, if a player wants to be somewhere else for whatever reason ie family money personal reasons the underlying fact is they wish to be somewhere else so let them go as you probably won't see the best out of them going forward. Hate to lose Danger as he is a match winner and a great player, he's given his all to us this year he hasn't just cruised through the year he's arguably had his best year this year and you have to respect that and I do and if he does go then I wish him well but as said I hate the thought of loosing him.

TomK

If Danger chooses to go and we matched the offer, it wouldn't be too make him stay. We'd be doing it to force the club he's chosen to trade for him and not take the rubbish compo we'd get.

Grazz

Quote from: TomK on September 16, 2015, 11:11:44 PM
If Danger chooses to go and we matched the offer, it wouldn't be too make him stay. We'd be doing it to force the club he's chosen to trade for him and not take the rubbish compo we'd get.

Yeh I understand this and agree with you, that is the likely scenario. We'd be silly not to really.


lachie_001

I think we should match the offer purely to go to the trade table for him. At the moment the best first rounder we can get is pick 12 so our combo pick would be pick 13. I'd rather go to the trade table and get this years (pick 9) and next years first rounder, and maybe switch our 2nd pick for their 2nd pick this year. Seems fair

Jay

Quote from: lachie_001 on September 17, 2015, 12:18:06 AM
I think we should match the offer purely to go to the trade table for him. At the moment the best first rounder we can get is pick 12 so our combo pick would be pick 13. I'd rather go to the trade table and get this years (pick 9) and next years first rounder, and maybe switch our 2nd pick for their 2nd pick this year. Seems fair
Wouldn't say 'fair', but it's probably our only option at this point. Fact of the matter is, that whatever we get back for him will be about 10% of what he's actually worth.

That's the thing with free agency, it's nice for the bottom clubs who can end up with a top 5 pick if their player gets sniped but what about a club like Adelaide who is really building something and then loses their best player  :-\

TomK


lachie_001

Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2015, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on September 17, 2015, 12:18:06 AM
I think we should match the offer purely to go to the trade table for him. At the moment the best first rounder we can get is pick 12 so our combo pick would be pick 13. I'd rather go to the trade table and get this years (pick 9) and next years first rounder, and maybe switch our 2nd pick for their 2nd pick this year. Seems fair
Wouldn't say 'fair', but it's probably our only option at this point. Fact of the matter is, that whatever we get back for him will be about 10% of what he's actually worth.

That's the thing with free agency, it's nice for the bottom clubs who can end up with a top 5 pick if their player gets sniped but what about a club like Adelaide who is really building something and then loses their best player  :-\
Yeah I can see where your coming from, but if we could walk away with pick 9, pick 12-18, pick 27 this year and two first rounders next year. That would go along way to replacing Dangerfield. Keep in mind we picked up Dangerfield with pick 10. Remember we lost two years of draft picks between 2012-2013 as well.

TomK

This all doesn't matter anyway, since he is staying. :D

Dave085

We have a lot of talent and depth in the midfield but Dangerfield has the X Factor. Breaking out of packs and bombing goals from outside 50. He has also improved his short game and vision inside 50, especially over the last 5 or so games. This is why it hurts to lose him.

I don't think Seedsman is a bad option but wouldn't want to give up too much for him.

Holz

Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2015, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on September 17, 2015, 12:18:06 AM
I think we should match the offer purely to go to the trade table for him. At the moment the best first rounder we can get is pick 12 so our combo pick would be pick 13. I'd rather go to the trade table and get this years (pick 9) and next years first rounder, and maybe switch our 2nd pick for their 2nd pick this year. Seems fair
Wouldn't say 'fair', but it's probably our only option at this point. Fact of the matter is, that whatever we get back for him will be about 10% of what he's actually worth.

That's the thing with free agency, it's nice for the bottom clubs who can end up with a top 5 pick if their player gets sniped but what about a club like Adelaide who is really building something and then loses their best player  :-\

they system is dodgy it should depend on the quality of the player leaving not where you are on the ladder.

crazy that kreuzer can basically get pick 2 (more then he is worth) and danger like pick 13 (far far less then he is worth)

Ricochet

Quote from: Holz on September 17, 2015, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2015, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on September 17, 2015, 12:18:06 AM
I think we should match the offer purely to go to the trade table for him. At the moment the best first rounder we can get is pick 12 so our combo pick would be pick 13. I'd rather go to the trade table and get this years (pick 9) and next years first rounder, and maybe switch our 2nd pick for their 2nd pick this year. Seems fair
Wouldn't say 'fair', but it's probably our only option at this point. Fact of the matter is, that whatever we get back for him will be about 10% of what he's actually worth.

That's the thing with free agency, it's nice for the bottom clubs who can end up with a top 5 pick if their player gets sniped but what about a club like Adelaide who is really building something and then loses their best player  :-\

they system is dodgy it should depend on the quality of the player leaving not where you are on the ladder.

crazy that kreuzer can basically get pick 2 (more then he is worth) and danger like pick 13 (far far less then he is worth)
It's nowhere near perfect, but who needs the higher pick more?

Jay

Quote from: Ricochet on September 17, 2015, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: Holz on September 17, 2015, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 17, 2015, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: lachie_001 on September 17, 2015, 12:18:06 AM
I think we should match the offer purely to go to the trade table for him. At the moment the best first rounder we can get is pick 12 so our combo pick would be pick 13. I'd rather go to the trade table and get this years (pick 9) and next years first rounder, and maybe switch our 2nd pick for their 2nd pick this year. Seems fair
Wouldn't say 'fair', but it's probably our only option at this point. Fact of the matter is, that whatever we get back for him will be about 10% of what he's actually worth.

That's the thing with free agency, it's nice for the bottom clubs who can end up with a top 5 pick if their player gets sniped but what about a club like Adelaide who is really building something and then loses their best player  :-\

they system is dodgy it should depend on the quality of the player leaving not where you are on the ladder.

crazy that kreuzer can basically get pick 2 (more then he is worth) and danger like pick 13 (far far less then he is worth)
It's nowhere near perfect, but who needs the higher pick more?
But then you're rewarding a poorly run club, rather than Adelaide who has remained competent over the last few years and drafted/developed some really nice players. Only for some of that to be almost undone by losing one of the best players in the comp for a showerty compo pick.