Matthew Lobbe

Started by fanTCfool, August 22, 2015, 03:59:03 PM

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quinny88

People using him as a stepping stone to need to be willing to have him for over half the year.
Let's say he is averaging 95 at round 7 and NicNat is averaging 105. You're not gonna use a trade at an early stage to basically sideways trade him to someone like NicNat when you have cash cows all over your field ready to be upgraded to premiums.

I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

BomberSam

Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

quinny88

Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

fanTCfool

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Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.

powersuperkents

Quote from: fanTCfool on January 16, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.
+1

I could see Libba going 105-110, but that would be a big comeback.

Crouch can average 105, the question is will he... The biggest question will be 'can he play out a full season'?? I doubt it... (better off going O'Meara imo)

TomK

Quote from: powersuperkents on January 16, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on January 16, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.
+1

I could see Libba going 105-110, but that would be a big comeback.

Crouch can average 105, the question is will he... The biggest question will be 'can he play out a full season'?? I doubt it... (better off going O'Meara imo)
O'Meara is as much of an injury risk as Crouch, the only exception is Crouch will be ready for round one at this stage

fasttrack13

Quote from: TomK on January 16, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on January 16, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on January 16, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.
+1

I could see Libba going 105-110, but that would be a big comeback.

Crouch can average 105, the question is will he... The biggest question will be 'can he play out a full season'?? I doubt it... (better off going O'Meara imo)
O'Meara is as much of an injury risk as Crouch, the only exception is Crouch will be ready for round one at this stage

From memory this is O'mearas first major injury, crouch has had problems for a lot of his late juniors

powersuperkents

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 16, 2016, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on January 16, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on January 16, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on January 16, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.
+1

I could see Libba going 105-110, but that would be a big comeback.

Crouch can average 105, the question is will he... The biggest question will be 'can he play out a full season'?? I doubt it... (better off going O'Meara imo)
O'Meara is as much of an injury risk as Crouch, the only exception is Crouch will be ready for round one at this stage

From memory this is O'mearas first major injury, crouch has had problems for a lot of his late juniors
It's a case of recurring injuries versus one severe injury

Probably best to just go Wines (not just the best of the lot  :P)

fasttrack13

Quote from: powersuperkents on January 16, 2016, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 16, 2016, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: TomK on January 16, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on January 16, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on January 16, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.
+1

I could see Libba going 105-110, but that would be a big comeback.

Crouch can average 105, the question is will he... The biggest question will be 'can he play out a full season'?? I doubt it... (better off going O'Meara imo)
O'Meara is as much of an injury risk as Crouch, the only exception is Crouch will be ready for round one at this stage

From memory this is O'mearas first major injury, crouch has had problems for a lot of his late juniors
It's a case of recurring injuries versus one severe injury

Probably best to just go Wines (not just the best of the lot  :P)

Wines lock lock lock!

quinny88

Quote from: powersuperkents on January 16, 2016, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on January 16, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 16, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 16, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
I have a rule that I don't start mid pricers unless I think they can become keepers. Too awkward to get rid of and always end up stuck in your team for way too long

I assume you are starting Libba? What about Crouch?

Yes, I think Libba can average 110 and crouch 105 which would make them both keepers.
Also have Leuy because I think he can go 95+ as sole ruck and has DPP so creates perfect cover

I think you are overestimating there.
A bloke who hasn't played for a year will average 105 but a bloke returning to sole ruck status won't average 95 like Leuy (same role?)
Besides, McKernan is still available for the Bombers.
+1

I could see Libba going 105-110, but that would be a big comeback.

Crouch can average 105, the question is will he... The biggest question will be 'can he play out a full season'?? I doubt it... (better off going O'Meara imo)

I didn't say Lobbe couldn't go 95 as well but Berger has DPP and a better history of scoring when the sole ruck.

Crouch and Libba are in full training and ready to go for round 1. Omeara is only a maybe to even play round 1.

quinny88

A 95 avg from Berger is good enough for F5/F6 in a complete side (ruck coverage as well)
A 95 from Lobbe isn't good enough for R2

BomberSam

Quote from: quinny88 on January 18, 2016, 12:30:47 AM
A 95 avg from Berger is good enough for F5/F6 in a complete side (ruck coverage as well)
A 95 from Lobbe isn't good enough for R2

This.

ben_020285

Quote from: quinny88 on January 18, 2016, 12:30:47 AM
A 95 avg from Berger is good enough for F5/F6 in a complete side (ruck coverage as well)
A 95 from Lobbe isn't good enough for R2

I think Lobbe has a much better chance of averaging around 95 than Berger though. Lobbe will be tapping it down to a midfield of Gray, Wines, Boak, Ebert and Hartlett while Berger will be tapping it down to the worst midfield ever. Plus Berger is just so damn injury prone.

I don't think either will be keepers but both SHOULD make decent stepping stones. I'm hopeful that Lobbe will make around 150k and Goldy will drop around 100k so I can save 250k and just use the one trade. Starting with Lobbe allows us to get a look at how the rucks perform this year as well, you never know there could be a better performing ruck that averages 5 or so more points than Goldy this year. S Martin, Jacobs or Nic Nat the likely candidates.

Holz

Quote from: BomberSam on January 18, 2016, 01:19:34 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on January 18, 2016, 12:30:47 AM
A 95 avg from Berger is good enough for F5/F6 in a complete side (ruck coverage as well)
A 95 from Lobbe isn't good enough for R2

This.

Im still not sure if the joke was being sarcastic or not

95 from lobbe is more then good enough for a R2. Obviously 95 as a F/R is better. but lobbe is much much better then burger. even taking out the injury factor. 

fanTCfool

95 is more than enough from Lobbe considering his price, and if you think you will get 95 average from Berger this year you are dreaming.