Matthew Lobbe

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RaisyDaisy

Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
The only other ruckman Port has I can see is Frampton , don't know anything about him myself ? lets just wait and see what they do , do they have anyone they can elevate or will they go out and get another ruck because Lobbe was no good last year with Ryder playing and he is not really big enough to mix it with the bigger ruckman .

Dixon provides ruck support now

shaker

Quote from: powersuperkents on January 12, 2016, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
The only other ruckman Port has I can see is Frampton , don't know anything about him myself ? lets just wait and see what they do , do they have anyone they can elevate or will they go out and get another ruck because Lobbe was no good last year with Ryder playing and he is not really big enough to mix it with the bigger ruckman .
Frampton was taken in the 2014 National Draft with a very late pick.

He is not AFL-ready (don't even expect him to feature as an emergency this season). He is one of Hinkley's side projects (like Karl Amon was)

Ok cheers for that well will be interesting to see if they go out and grab another ruck

shaker

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
The only other ruckman Port has I can see is Frampton , don't know anything about him myself ? lets just wait and see what they do , do they have anyone they can elevate or will they go out and get another ruck because Lobbe was no good last year with Ryder playing and he is not really big enough to mix it with the bigger ruckman .

Dixon provides ruck support now

Not the most durable of players Dixon think they need another ruck

Ringo

Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
The only other ruckman Port has I can see is Frampton , don't know anything about him myself ? lets just wait and see what they do , do they have anyone they can elevate or will they go out and get another ruck because Lobbe was no good last year with Ryder playing and he is not really big enough to mix it with the bigger ruckman .

Dixon provides ruck support now

Not the most durable of players Dixon think they need another ruck
They also recruited a 23 year old ruck Paul Hunter from Redlands.  So he may be the one promoted from the rookie list to replace Ryder.

jfitty

Quote from: Ringo on January 12, 2016, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
The only other ruckman Port has I can see is Frampton , don't know anything about him myself ? lets just wait and see what they do , do they have anyone they can elevate or will they go out and get another ruck because Lobbe was no good last year with Ryder playing and he is not really big enough to mix it with the bigger ruckman .

Dixon provides ruck support now

Not the most durable of players Dixon think they need another ruck
They also recruited a 23 year old ruck Paul Hunter from Redlands.  So he may be the one promoted from the rookie list to replace Ryder.

That was the Crows wasn't it?

Dons

Quote from: Money Shot on January 12, 2016, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on January 12, 2016, 04:48:27 PM
I reckon Goldy and Lobbe for me. I was almost set on NicNat and Martin, but I was scared of not starting Goldy. It seems right in my mind now that the money saved on Lobbe should be spent on Goldy, with an eye to upgrading Lobbe to one of NicNat/Martin.
I personally think that If you don't start Goldy you're not going to be able to get him in so maybe Goldy and Lobbe?
I think Goldy is a must. Doubt he will be below 600k ever so if you don't start him it will be hard to get him in.
You may well be right mate, but even last year he dropped substantially due to 1 low score, preluded by a few scores around 90-100. Rd 4 he scored a 154 and then started Rd 5 at $615k, scored 92 Rd 5, then 100, 98, 44 and then 134 and was then priced at $511k. Not expecting him to repeat a 44, or fall that low, but as he is starting from a much higher price than $615 used in this example, he will need to score higher to keep his price while the MN is increasing. This is why I think a drop of $80k could occur early on. Not saying it will, but think it somewhat of a chance to occur.

Ringo

Quote from: jfitty on January 12, 2016, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 12, 2016, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 12, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: shaker on January 12, 2016, 06:59:13 PM
The only other ruckman Port has I can see is Frampton , don't know anything about him myself ? lets just wait and see what they do , do they have anyone they can elevate or will they go out and get another ruck because Lobbe was no good last year with Ryder playing and he is not really big enough to mix it with the bigger ruckman .

Dixon provides ruck support now

Not the most durable of players Dixon think they need another ruck
They also recruited a 23 year old ruck Paul Hunter from Redlands.  So he may be the one promoted from the rookie list to replace Ryder.

That was the Crows wasn't it?
My mistake thought he went to Port but he went to Crows.

Hawker_08

So much money to spend on Ruck's this year in order to get set and forget which I do think is the right way to go, but these added funds mean potentially an extra premo plus a player that could easily ave 100. Lock at R2 for me. The only other player that I would consider would be mummy but he will get injured.

fasttrack13

Can lobbe be a top 5 ruck? Doesn't gather possessions and his mains strength is his tackling and not sure his tap work is really either.
Only 28% to adv

quinny88

Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 12, 2016, 08:30:53 PM
Can lobbe be a top 5 ruck? Doesn't gather possessions and his mains strength is his tackling and not sure his tap work is really either.
Only 28% to adv

Probably not..
IMO Goldy, Martin, NicNat, Jacobs, Mummy, Sandi  will definitely be better if none get injured, then there's probably 5 other ruckman that could be up there if everything went right (Lobbe, Maric, Berger etc)

If you're starting Lobbe you would have to be doing it as a stepping stone because even if he matches his only good year of a 100avg he will will be 20ppg behind Goldy and probably 10ppg behind the next best couple of ruckman

RaisyDaisy

Probably just bank the trade and keep things as is - set and forget

AaronKirk

Pick 2 of these rucks and set & forget :Goldy, Martin, NicNat, Jacobs, Mummy, Sandi

Lobbe could well improve with no Ryder and more experience but he still is very unlikely to beat the rucks above in average unless he has a massive career best season.

Port's draw does help but it is a gamble to pick him.

crowls

Quote from: AaronKirk on January 12, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
Pick 2 of these rucks and set & forget :Goldy, Martin, NicNat, Jacobs, Mummy, Sandi

Lobbe could well improve with no Ryder and more experience but he still is very unlikely to beat the rucks above in average unless he has a massive career best season.

Port's draw does help but it is a gamble to pick him.
Exactly my thinking.    Unless you are desperate for cash ( and you should not be as Bombers will have lots of rookies to choose from) why would you take Lobbe over the list above.  Likely to fall short on points, and maybe need a trade.




ben_020285

Quote from: crowls on January 13, 2016, 12:00:43 AM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 12, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
Pick 2 of these rucks and set & forget :Goldy, Martin, NicNat, Jacobs, Mummy, Sandi

Lobbe could well improve with no Ryder and more experience but he still is very unlikely to beat the rucks above in average unless he has a massive career best season.

Port's draw does help but it is a gamble to pick him.
Exactly my thinking.    Unless you are desperate for cash ( and you should not be as Bombers will have lots of rookies to choose from) why would you take Lobbe over the list above.  Likely to fall short on points, and maybe need a trade.

Completely depends on how you use the extra cash. Goldy and Lobbe are 300k apart so if you can use the cash to turn a rookie into a keeper then I think it would be worth it.

ben_020285

Quote from: AaronKirk on January 12, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
Pick 2 of these rucks and set & forget :Goldy, Martin, NicNat, Jacobs, Mummy, Sandi

Lobbe could well improve with no Ryder and more experience but he still is very unlikely to beat the rucks above in average unless he has a massive career best season.

Port's draw does help but it is a gamble to pick him.

I would say that Mummy is a much bigger gamble than Lobbe.