Matthew Lobbe

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Holz

Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Lobbe isnt a keeper but this talk of him averaging 95 and being a bad pick i cant compute. Im probably picking him and if heactually did go 95 i would be stoked. Its 15 under the second best ruck behind goldy. I dont believe that people who were high in the rankings had M8 that were 10 or less off from the best guy they could have picked.

If Lobbe goes close to 95 he will be closer to the best R2 then crouch and libba will be to the best mid premo and nobody is worried about them.
If he goes 95, at what point will you trade him out tho man?

I probably dont have to nobody has the best of the best everywhere unless they arent going for overall.

when I finished right at the top i still had 100-105 mids at m7 m8. If instead I have 115 mids there then i can afford to have a 95 R2.

I only upgrade him if his form drops, he gets injured or if somebody goes really big and pushes 115+.

my trade hard strategy means i compromise on these positions to counter this i start of with less premos but the best of the best.

Starting Pendles Ablett Rocky Goldy Lids Martin Gunston Shaw etc... im paying up for these guys even though some overpriced. here is one, the 170k I save on Lobbe over a Martin I use on 3 different players to bump them from premo to super premo. e.g. Pendles over say Sloane or Selwood.
Why can't you start SMartin and upgrade the mids though? Martin pretty much scores like a midfielder anyway.

Ok, personally I don't think you can get away with a 95 ruck all year, and if he doesn't go 95 you're upgrading him for little gain.

Just seems like high risk for little reward imo.

He's different to Libba because Libba's reward is potential 105-110.

Im not sure libba will go 105-110 thats very optimistic. In thinking around 95-100.

its not really that much risk say he goes 95. I then trade him to a martin. for lets say 50k more. he cost 170k less so just made 120k and had a guy giving a very respectable 95 a game.

with that 170k. I have turned Sloane into Pendles and picked up 5 points a game. turned a basement rookie into say parish and picked up 10 points a game. there is your 15 points a game.

Ricochet

Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Lobbe isnt a keeper but this talk of him averaging 95 and being a bad pick i cant compute. Im probably picking him and if heactually did go 95 i would be stoked. Its 15 under the second best ruck behind goldy. I dont believe that people who were high in the rankings had M8 that were 10 or less off from the best guy they could have picked.

If Lobbe goes close to 95 he will be closer to the best R2 then crouch and libba will be to the best mid premo and nobody is worried about them.
If he goes 95, at what point will you trade him out tho man?

I probably dont have to nobody has the best of the best everywhere unless they arent going for overall.

when I finished right at the top i still had 100-105 mids at m7 m8. If instead I have 115 mids there then i can afford to have a 95 R2.

I only upgrade him if his form drops, he gets injured or if somebody goes really big and pushes 115+.

my trade hard strategy means i compromise on these positions to counter this i start of with less premos but the best of the best.

Starting Pendles Ablett Rocky Goldy Lids Martin Gunston Shaw etc... im paying up for these guys even though some overpriced. here is one, the 170k I save on Lobbe over a Martin I use on 3 different players to bump them from premo to super premo. e.g. Pendles over say Sloane or Selwood.
Why can't you start SMartin and upgrade the mids though? Martin pretty much scores like a midfielder anyway.

Ok, personally I don't think you can get away with a 95 ruck all year, and if he doesn't go 95 you're upgrading him for little gain.

Just seems like high risk for little reward imo.

He's different to Libba because Libba's reward is potential 105-110.

Im not sure libba will go 105-110 thats very optimistic. In thinking around 95-100.

its not really that much risk say he goes 95. I then trade him to a martin. for lets say 50k more. he cost 170k less so just made 120k and had a guy giving a very respectable 95 a game.

with that 170k. I have turned Sloane into Pendles and picked up 5 points a game. turned a basement rookie into say parish and picked up 10 points a game. there is your 15 points a game.
Have a look at Blicavs pricing i put up man, at 95 he's not going to be making you that kind of cash very quickly.

Also why is 105 from Libba optimistic?

fanTCfool

Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Lobbe isnt a keeper but this talk of him averaging 95 and being a bad pick i cant compute. Im probably picking him and if heactually did go 95 i would be stoked. Its 15 under the second best ruck behind goldy. I dont believe that people who were high in the rankings had M8 that were 10 or less off from the best guy they could have picked.

If Lobbe goes close to 95 he will be closer to the best R2 then crouch and libba will be to the best mid premo and nobody is worried about them.
If he goes 95, at what point will you trade him out tho man?

I probably dont have to nobody has the best of the best everywhere unless they arent going for overall.

when I finished right at the top i still had 100-105 mids at m7 m8. If instead I have 115 mids there then i can afford to have a 95 R2.

I only upgrade him if his form drops, he gets injured or if somebody goes really big and pushes 115+.

my trade hard strategy means i compromise on these positions to counter this i start of with less premos but the best of the best.

Starting Pendles Ablett Rocky Goldy Lids Martin Gunston Shaw etc... im paying up for these guys even though some overpriced. here is one, the 170k I save on Lobbe over a Martin I use on 3 different players to bump them from premo to super premo. e.g. Pendles over say Sloane or Selwood.
Why can't you start SMartin and upgrade the mids though? Martin pretty much scores like a midfielder anyway.

Ok, personally I don't think you can get away with a 95 ruck all year, and if he doesn't go 95 you're upgrading him for little gain.

Just seems like high risk for little reward imo.

He's different to Libba because Libba's reward is potential 105-110.

Im not sure libba will go 105-110 thats very optimistic. In thinking around 95-100.

its not really that much risk say he goes 95. I then trade him to a martin. for lets say 50k more. he cost 170k less so just made 120k and had a guy giving a very respectable 95 a game.

with that 170k. I have turned Sloane into Pendles and picked up 5 points a game. turned a basement rookie into say parish and picked up 10 points a game. there is your 15 points a game.
Have a look at Blicavs pricing i put up man, at 95 he's not going to be making you that kind of cash very quickly.

Also why is 105 from Libba optimistic?

Well he has missed an entire year through injury, he certainly won't average 105 in his first few games I would think

Ricochet

Quote from: fanTCfool on January 19, 2016, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Lobbe isnt a keeper but this talk of him averaging 95 and being a bad pick i cant compute. Im probably picking him and if heactually did go 95 i would be stoked. Its 15 under the second best ruck behind goldy. I dont believe that people who were high in the rankings had M8 that were 10 or less off from the best guy they could have picked.

If Lobbe goes close to 95 he will be closer to the best R2 then crouch and libba will be to the best mid premo and nobody is worried about them.
If he goes 95, at what point will you trade him out tho man?

I probably dont have to nobody has the best of the best everywhere unless they arent going for overall.

when I finished right at the top i still had 100-105 mids at m7 m8. If instead I have 115 mids there then i can afford to have a 95 R2.

I only upgrade him if his form drops, he gets injured or if somebody goes really big and pushes 115+.

my trade hard strategy means i compromise on these positions to counter this i start of with less premos but the best of the best.

Starting Pendles Ablett Rocky Goldy Lids Martin Gunston Shaw etc... im paying up for these guys even though some overpriced. here is one, the 170k I save on Lobbe over a Martin I use on 3 different players to bump them from premo to super premo. e.g. Pendles over say Sloane or Selwood.
Why can't you start SMartin and upgrade the mids though? Martin pretty much scores like a midfielder anyway.

Ok, personally I don't think you can get away with a 95 ruck all year, and if he doesn't go 95 you're upgrading him for little gain.

Just seems like high risk for little reward imo.

He's different to Libba because Libba's reward is potential 105-110.

Im not sure libba will go 105-110 thats very optimistic. In thinking around 95-100.

its not really that much risk say he goes 95. I then trade him to a martin. for lets say 50k more. he cost 170k less so just made 120k and had a guy giving a very respectable 95 a game.

with that 170k. I have turned Sloane into Pendles and picked up 5 points a game. turned a basement rookie into say parish and picked up 10 points a game. there is your 15 points a game.
Have a look at Blicavs pricing i put up man, at 95 he's not going to be making you that kind of cash very quickly.

Also why is 105 from Libba optimistic?

Well he has missed an entire year through injury, he certainly won't average 105 in his first few games I would think

Goddard
2006 ave: 106
2007: ACL
2008 ave: 103

Gray
2011 ave: 91
2012: ACL
2013 ave: 91 unsubbed

Hayes
2010 ave: 103
2011: ACL
2012 ave: 102

Liberatore
2014 ave: 110
2015: ACL
2016: ??


I don't think 105 is optimistic at all

LordSneeze

TBH id take 100 from him at his price as that is good enough to hold a M8 in a full team and then be used as a loophold once you get a 9th.

Holz

Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 19, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Quote from: Holz on January 19, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Lobbe isnt a keeper but this talk of him averaging 95 and being a bad pick i cant compute. Im probably picking him and if heactually did go 95 i would be stoked. Its 15 under the second best ruck behind goldy. I dont believe that people who were high in the rankings had M8 that were 10 or less off from the best guy they could have picked.

If Lobbe goes close to 95 he will be closer to the best R2 then crouch and libba will be to the best mid premo and nobody is worried about them.
If he goes 95, at what point will you trade him out tho man?

I probably dont have to nobody has the best of the best everywhere unless they arent going for overall.

when I finished right at the top i still had 100-105 mids at m7 m8. If instead I have 115 mids there then i can afford to have a 95 R2.

I only upgrade him if his form drops, he gets injured or if somebody goes really big and pushes 115+.

my trade hard strategy means i compromise on these positions to counter this i start of with less premos but the best of the best.

Starting Pendles Ablett Rocky Goldy Lids Martin Gunston Shaw etc... im paying up for these guys even though some overpriced. here is one, the 170k I save on Lobbe over a Martin I use on 3 different players to bump them from premo to super premo. e.g. Pendles over say Sloane or Selwood.
Why can't you start SMartin and upgrade the mids though? Martin pretty much scores like a midfielder anyway.

Ok, personally I don't think you can get away with a 95 ruck all year, and if he doesn't go 95 you're upgrading him for little gain.

Just seems like high risk for little reward imo.

He's different to Libba because Libba's reward is potential 105-110.

Im not sure libba will go 105-110 thats very optimistic. In thinking around 95-100.

its not really that much risk say he goes 95. I then trade him to a martin. for lets say 50k more. he cost 170k less so just made 120k and had a guy giving a very respectable 95 a game.

with that 170k. I have turned Sloane into Pendles and picked up 5 points a game. turned a basement rookie into say parish and picked up 10 points a game. there is your 15 points a game.
Have a look at Blicavs pricing i put up man, at 95 he's not going to be making you that kind of cash very quickly.

Also why is 105 from Libba optimistic?

depends if you look at it as a realised 150k or not.

if he is peforming loabit below a guy 170k more and im using that 170k to add points elsewhere then its kind of realised anyway. I would trade him to at least half way through the season and by then he should have made up the money in real terms.

Spite

With the late byes, I'm not sure anyone with Lobbe would end up burning a trade on him until the byes to work through it.

Otherwise you could trade him in like round 10-12 but may as well wait for the byes then

_wato

He's GONESKI. Goldy/Nic Nat

fanTCfool

Just a little something to note regarding top up players and the Power

QuoteHinkley said he would like to add another ruckman to the list to mitigate the risk young ruckman Billy Frampton would be overexposed too early in his career, if senior big man Matthew Lobbe went down with injury.

RaisyDaisy


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Holz


_wato

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 21, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
Quote from: _wato on January 21, 2016, 10:57:16 AM
He's GONESKI. Goldy/Nic Nat

What prompted this change?

Rico showing me Blicavs price rises over the first few weeks of this year. He was priced cheaper than Lobbe and avergaed higher (100) than Lobbe will over that period. And he reached nothing of the price I expected him too. Which means he is not worth it for me.
Will only increase $100k. Trade will cost loads to actually take place and I'm expecting Nat to average 115 which means he will be over $600k. He is underpriced at an average of 103.

Would rather Nic Nat and rookie over Lobbe/Bird.


RaisyDaisy

Yep, and I just read NicNat say he is in top condition and has had a full preseason

Sticking with my first choice of Goldy/NN

_wato

Yeah I follow West Coast on snapchat and he is killing it most definitely