AXV: TRADE DISCUSSION (2015/16)

[Rids]

McIntosh has been in the system for 3 years now. He came from nowhere and jumped ahead of the now delisted Matty McDonough. His kicking and decision making is terrible. Why is he fringe? It is because Drummond got injured in his first game, Menadue needs another season under his belt, Corey Ellis was injured and Lambert for a large chunk of the year was also injured. He grabbed his opportunity this year. When I was chatting to a couple of Richmond officials a month ago, they said they loved his run and carry.

It is no secret that the Tigers will be bringing in Yarran and are targeting a few extra players this year. As I said before, McIntosh efficiency is 68%. Just ask any Tiger fan about his decision making and those costly turnovers. There was one against North in the final 2 weeks ago.

As for Frawley, AXV is suited to forwards with the 12 points for goals. In the last 2 games for the home and away season, Frawley played forward and kicked 3 goals in each. He scored 128 and 92 in those 2 games. He averaged 70 for the year.

[Rids]

I have aired my views on the trade and will accept the decision made by BB. I think this view is shared by a few.

BB will make the call and we all will move on.

[nrich102]

I reckon most you guys are jut butthurt you didn't get Barlow yourselves :P

The trade is questionable, but it really isn't as bad as you guys seem to think it is.

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Says the guy who gifted the lambs the flag

Says the guy still butthurt from not getting the player he wanted a year ago.

[Ricochet]

McIntosh has been in the system for 3 years now. He came from nowhere and jumped ahead of the now delisted Matty McDonough. His kicking and decision making is terrible. Why is he fringe? It is because Drummond got injured in his first game, Menadue needs another season under his belt, Corey Ellis was injured and Lambert for a large chunk of the year was also injured. He grabbed his opportunity this year. When I was chatting to a couple of Richmond officials a month ago, they said they loved his run and carry.

It is no secret that the Tigers will be bringing in Yarran and are targeting a few extra players this year. As I said before, McIntosh efficiency is 68%. Just ask any Tiger fan about his decision making and those costly turnovers. There was one against North in the final 2 weeks ago.

As for Frawley, AXV is suited to forwards with the 12 points for goals. In the last 2 games for the home and away season, Frawley played forward and kicked 3 goals in each. He scored 128 and 92 in those 2 games. He averaged 70 for the year.

So he played in front of those kids? Doesn't mean he's fringe at all. Maybe those kids would have pushed out others? Or not be up to it yet anyway. This year I have lso spoken to a couple of ex Tigers players who still have links to the club and his name came up, he is rated highly internally.  And Richmond are chasing Yarran? Pies are chasing Treloar.. should I trade out Sidey? Or Pendles? Your throwing up things that aren't guaranteed of happening or not happening. Hardly fair to based a players complete value on it.

Frawley's average has a -3 and 24 sub scores in there, throwing out his average. He isn't the grunt of the deal anyway, just making up the gap. And just because fwds score better doesn't mean defenders aren't valuable. He also scored 99, 94 and 105 in defence, so those 2 scores aren't masking his scoring ability in defence.

It's fine mate you're allowed your opinion. I just don't like it when players are publicly bashed to bring their value down below what they're truly worth.

For the record, I would pass this even if it wasn't my team involved. But that probably doesn't mean much atm lol

It's been broken down, I can't make it any clearer. So up to BB now

[Adamant]

Hey lads, we'll be looking to go through a bit of a rebuild this off-season, and as a result we have a few guys available that aren't in our future plans but still have a few good seasons left in them.

Matthew Boyd - will get def status
Garrick Ibbotson
Lachlan Hansen
Paul Duffield
Sam Mitchell
Aaron Sandilands
Nick Riewoldt
Mark LeCras
Brent Harvey
Andrew Walker - def/fwd next year

Boyd, Ibbotson, Riewoldt, LeCras and Walker will likely be out the door soon so get your offers in for them ASAP.

[PowerBug]

Does anyone NOT want their 5th round pick? Because I want about 3 so need two more. You can probably get my 3rd rounder, or it can be used to finish off deals.

[Adamant]

Taking final offers for Boyd, Riewoldt and Walker, otherwise they will be gone tonight.

LeCras, Ibbotson and Harvey likely out the door soon too.

[kilbluff1985]

cant u wait until the new coach gets announced so they can make a offer

[Nige]

Jed Adcock, Matt Spangher, Tanner Smith, Sam Schulz and Jayden Short will be delisted by Laos unless anyone wants them.

First three have a bit of value, the latter two not so much. Depth forwards needed in return.  :)

[PowerBug]

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,104664.msg1666557.html#msg1666557

Kathmandu Eskimos

ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK: (These guys will be de-listed unless you want to take them as a sweetener)
P.Stewart (66), D.Howard (0)

ON THE TABLE: (I don't mind whether these players are on my list next season or not. If you want any please enquire me)
M.Firrito (71), J.Trengove (59) A.Silvagni (57)
Lewis Jetta (106), Ben Howlett (100), Tendai Mzungu (87), A.Boston (73, r), A.Morabito (0, r)
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L.Thomas (87), B.Dale (45), T.Elton (22)
N27

COULD BE PERSUADED: (I would rather have this lot on my list next season, I will listen to offers though)
C.Garland (83), J.Hombsch (77), S.Rowe (64), H.Schade (51, r)
Liam Picken (133), Isaac Smith (127), Levi Greenwood (112)
William Frampton (0, r), Daniel Currie (0), Sam Durdin (0)
C.Pedersen (88), O.Fantasia (87), L.Henderson (84), C.Dawes (75), J.Rose (73), R.Knight (71)
N11, R11, R27, R43, R59, R75

UNTOUCHABLE: (Seriously, unlike other teams, this means do not bother asking)
James Kelly, Taylor Duryea, Sam Wright
Dan Hannebery, Andrew Gaff, Brad Ebert, Sam Gray (r)
Paddy Ryder
Eddie Betts, Luke Breust


TARGET PLAYERS

Defenders:
Wouldn't mind an 80+ back.

Midfielders:
No need for anyone here

Ruckmen:
Matthew Lobbe still, someone give BB67th another ruckman please.

Forwards:
Believe it or not, I am taking offers for a 90+ forward.

Draft Picks:
I want one draft pick in the first round, so unless I am offered one, you can't take mine. Other than that I have no intentions in grabbing extra draft picks, I have the ones I require to make my upgrades and complete my senior lists.

Updated my trade requirements in the above link and all is shown there :) Should make things easier now for teams that want to take some of my players. Jetta being the biggest name up for sale. Remember records in AFL finals don't matter for AXV, bloke is an uncontested ball machine and racks it up!

[Memphistopheles]

Just because it's been a bit quiet around here.

Bangladesh give: M. Boyd + N. Riewoldt + A. Walker + M. LeCras + G. Ibbotson + B. Harvey + N26
Australia give: A. Tomlinson + S. Mayes + J. Aish + L. Taylor + J. Lonie + M. Hallahan + N76

Ada to confirm

And, someone complained last season about Nrich handing the title to another club with his trades...

Six premiums for some kids.

Also don't bother trading with me anymore unless it involves kids or draft picks.

I've tried several times to improve my team this off season but, it seems people only want to trade with the teams already at the top.

The divide between the good teams and the weak teams gets wider.

I'll just sit on my hands and wait for the kids to develop.

[kilbluff1985]

i highly doubt that's what's going on no reason makes sense for teams to only trade with top teams

[Rids]

Unfortunately the precedent has been set. No one should be blaming JB for going out and doing what has been considered acceptable previously. JB has given quality kids in this trade with huge futures. On the flip side there are a couple of older guys that have 1 year left.

I am not a fan of it at all as it makes the comp less competitive when 1 team lands so many. But these trades have passed continually in the past so it is what it is.

[nas]

Also makes it hard for the incoming Coach / Coaches whoever it may be, as will be playing catch up as have missed out on potential trading.

In saying that whoever incorporates the Tigers have a good ground floor of players to start with / trade / delist for picks.

[Rids]

Also makes it hard for the incoming Coach / Coaches whoever it may be, as will be playing catch up as have missed out on potential trading.

In saying that whoever incorporates the Tigers have a good ground floor of players to start with / trade / delist for picks.

Have to admit that I have no idea why trading wasnt halted till the new coach had been announced. Oversight I would assume. The good news is that not much has happened while the voting has occurred.