Chris Biter Masten

[LF]

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the lower scale eagles supporter sees him out and gives him a flogging!

Such a little prick acting like he's so innocent in all this.  Don't think I know anyone who, if had a forearm shoved into their mouth wouldn't bite as a reaction.

Seen Eagles and dockers players out and about around the place before. It's funny. These are the guys you never see.... Suban Ballantyne and Crowley... Reason being you know what's gonna happen if they do go out. Which explains a lot really!

Well actually I have seen Ballantyne down at Rockingham Shopping centre with his kids and I know people that have run into Crowley before as well.

Well obviously they need to leave the house..... But I'm referring to out out... As in like bars and night clubs and having a few brews... The kind of places were someone would be likely to have go at them.

Why would they be at places like nightclubs during the season anyway?

[The_Captain]

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the lower scale eagles supporter sees him out and gives him a flogging!

Such a little prick acting like he's so innocent in all this.  Don't think I know anyone who, if had a forearm shoved into their mouth wouldn't bite as a reaction.

Seen Eagles and dockers players out and about around the place before. It's funny. These are the guys you never see.... Suban Ballantyne and Crowley... Reason being you know what's gonna happen if they do go out. Which explains a lot really!

Well actually I have seen Ballantyne down at Rockingham Shopping centre with his kids and I know people that have run into Crowley before as well.

Well obviously they need to leave the house..... But I'm referring to out out... As in like bars and night clubs and having a few brews... The kind of places were someone would be likely to have go at them.

Why would they be at places like nightclubs during the season anyway?

They're human. There aloud to have a good time

[Grazz]

The whole incident begins and ends in roughly 3 seconds for maybe one third of that time Suban had his arm in the vicinity of Masten's mouth. I don't subscribe to the jammed in there defence or the dentist theory of involuntary reaction that's blah blah for mine, you make a conscious choice to bite or not to bite, it really is that simple and that cut and dry. If Suban was on top of him for any length of time forcing his forearm into Masten's mouth then i'd probably be more sympathetic towards Masten without actually condoning it but that's not what happened.
As always i respect everyones right to have an opinion but find it near on impossible to agree with the condoning of it and zero for the opinion of i'd do it to in the context of this incident from start to finish over approximately 3 seconds.

[Capper]

I agree with Buckley, he is either cleared or gets a bigger penalty.

It doesnt matter what kind of drop kick the guy you "apparently" bite is you still dont bite.

You learn that shower at preschool and if you do bite then you get sent to your room and I get your dessert!!

[Grazz]

I agree with Buckley, he is either cleared or gets a bigger penalty.

It doesnt matter what kind of drop kick the guy you "apparently" bite is you still dont bite.

You learn that shower at preschool and if you do bite then you get sent to your room and I get your dessert!!

My brother bit himself once to get me sent to my room, now thats a low act.  :P

[The_Captain]

Buckley ha? The same guy that wiped blood on an opponent? Bloke is an arrogant tool and can't coach for shower. His opinion is valid for nothing.

[valkorum]

I get that, biting is the lowest of the low, especially on a sporting field, but for someone who's never had issues with bad behaviour or the tribunal you would have to give a player like that the benefit of the doubt, if he's saying that a player pushed his forearm into his mouth and didn't deliberately bite down, but in the heat of the moment maybe reacted (with adrenalin mind you) by doing whatever his body said to do in the situation (fight or flight always be controlled) then why does Suabn's word mean more especially as Suban has been in trouble with the tribunal on multiple occassions. The evidence in this situation was bullshower and they mae a judgemental decision.  Biting IS and always will be wrong though.

Are you serious - he got charged with assault for a  fight in a pub


I stand by my statement that BITING is a dog act.  How many times has a bite happened on the footy field?  Only 2 times that I am aware of and both by Eagles players.

How you guys can say that he didn't do it, is totally beyond me.  He immediately showed the umpire, photo proof has been shown that a bite mark is on his arm.

The tribunal found him guilty and then gave him a slap on the wrist.

Even Gillon said the punishment wasn't right.

[valkorum]

Read this article before you start/continue accusing Suban of Dog Acts (breaking players code)

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/29301099/suban-attacks-a-bit-rich/

He was SUMMONED TO THE TRIBUNAL

[Ziplock]

Bottom line is you don't bite, if he was indeed sufficiently threatened then smack the dude, i'd rather do a couple of weeks for landing a punch than be known as a bitter. You don't bite ever under any circumstance on a football field. Smack the flowerer and at the very least you can hold your head up.

You ever tried to punch someone who's on top of you with their arm around your head? It's not flowering easy. I'd probably have bit the guy too.

I never mentioned his head but yeh ive trained to do it, theres always some part of the body thats vulnerable. there's no excuse to bite on the footy field, none zero. If you condone it then im shocked if you'd actually do it then words fail me regarding ones character.

Bottom line is you don't bite, if he was indeed sufficiently threatened then smack the dude, i'd rather do a couple of weeks for landing a punch than be known as a bitter. You don't bite ever under any circumstance on a football field. Smack the flowerer and at the very least you can hold your head up.

You ever tried to punch someone who's on top of you with their arm around your head? It's not flowering easy. I'd probably have bit the guy too.

Plus, are we really going to encourage punching someone in the head? Really, come on.

Biting is a shower look, but saying he should have belted the bloke, something we are trying to stamp out of our game but more importantly out of wider society amongst young males is well off the mark imo.

C'mon jumper punches are thrown every second week,nowhere did i say punch him in the head but i'll stand by what i said if it were me and you bit me on the footy field then i'm gunna belt whoever is doing it to me, it's a bloody low act regardless of what treatment you are receiving. Bitting is far more unbecoming to the game than punch or elbow to the torso.
I really can't understand people that condone it or say i'd do it, thats flowered up.

what's the actual difference between a bite and a punch? Keep in mind, I've never bitten anyone before, and I've been in a fair few situations where I've had to throw a punch.

It's just social programming to think that punching is a more manly act than biting/ a less dog act. And, imo, that's because biting is normally a last resort- it's pretty hard to hurt someone seriously by biting them, unless you get a really flowering hard bite on like an ear/ nose/ finger, at worst you're going to draw blood. Biting's a last resort, so it's seen as cowardly/ dog because you have no other way to protect yourself- someone has to be basically on top of you and in your face to bite someone, you never see someone run at a person to go and bite them.

The only thing that biting could be worse for is basically transmission of disease. That being said, it's pretty hard to transmit diseases by biting, you'd have to not only break the skin but also have blood in your mouth, and AFL players would be having regular health checks/ be mostly disease free (insert joke about rival clubs/ the sub rule/ umpiring/ the tribunal being a disease).

So, I don't really see how biting is worse than punching? You're far more likely to seriously injure someone from a punch than a bite. I personally wouldn't bite someone, but I think the general outcry over it is a bit symptomatic of societal brainwashing.

xoxo, Ziplock out.

[Grazz]

Zip you shock me here a little for someone that is clearly quite intelligent, If you fail to see the difference between biting and punching then so be it I am not about to try to explain it as I think we'd just go back and forth over it nor should we subject anyone else to the boredom of that lol for me it's clear that 99% of the population that follows AFL football think that it is a very low act a dog act if you like for a grown man inside or outside of football for that matter to do. Only ever happened twice on a AFL field that i'm aware of, that fact alone should be enough to understand where it ranks and how it is judged by the wider football community let alone the majority of the greater public.   

For what it's worth your mouth is a cesspit of bacteria good and bad, 600 various kinds of bacteria can inhabit the human mouth  this is why we shun the habit of spitting on a individual. If the skin is broken a doctor will immediately prescribe antibiotics to prevent anykind of infection as was the case with Suban and the Freo medical staff, Quote from the AFL site "A photo of Suban's left forearm was shown to an AFL investigator on Monday and again to the Tribunal on Tuesday, showing a clear breaking of the skin, which Fremantle said had required treatment and a course of antibiotics." end quote. No blood is required to be in your mouth to cause infection the bacteria in the mouth is sufficient enough to do it a simple Google search will tell you this.

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000035.htm

Human bites may be more dangerous than most animal bites. There are germs in some human mouths that can cause infections that are hard to treat. If you have an infected human bite, especially on your hand, you may need to be admitted to the hospital to receive antibiotics through a vein (intravenously). In some cases, you may need surgery.

[The_Captain]

I get that, biting is the lowest of the low, especially on a sporting field, but for someone who's never had issues with bad behaviour or the tribunal you would have to give a player like that the benefit of the doubt, if he's saying that a player pushed his forearm into his mouth and didn't deliberately bite down, but in the heat of the moment maybe reacted (with adrenalin mind you) by doing whatever his body said to do in the situation (fight or flight always be controlled) then why does Suabn's word mean more especially as Suban has been in trouble with the tribunal on multiple occassions. The evidence in this situation was bullshower and they mae a judgemental decision.  Biting IS and always will be wrong though.

Are you serious - he got charged with assault for a  fight in a pub


I stand by my statement that BITING is a dog act.  How many times has a bite happened on the footy field?  Only 2 times that I am aware of and both by Eagles players.

How you guys can say that he didn't do it, is totally beyond me.  He immediately showed the umpire, photo proof has been shown that a bite mark is on his arm.

The tribunal found him guilty and then gave him a slap on the wrist.

Even Gillon said the punishment wasn't right.

Subans a grub. The guy cant play football, and goes around with the intention of pissing his opponents off. This was a provoked attack! Not saying biting is fine, but there is no footage to show how it happened. He didnt chase after suban and take a chunk out of his arm unprovoked.

At the end of the day, the dockers style of footy is negative and it will never win them a grand final. Ross lyon needs to teach his players to worry about the ball and not the opponent.... only then may they stand a chance.

[valkorum]

So its everyone else's fault, Suban is a grub and Ross Lyon can't coach.  These are your reasons why Masten bit Suban

Far out

[The_Captain]

So its everyone else's fault, Suban is a grub and Ross Lyon can't coach.  These are your reasons why Masten bit Suban

Far out

Nothing to do with why Ross cant coach, but may explain why Suban has a mark on his arm.

[elephants]

This is being over-analysed.

Biting is bad and shouldn't happen in society or on the football field hence the suspension for Masten.

This never would have happened if Suban played the ball and didn't sit on top of Masten impeding is run at the football.

End of.

[Ziplock]

Zip you shock me here a little for someone that is clearly quite intelligent, If you fail to see the difference between biting and punching then so be it I am not about to try to explain it as I think we'd just go back and forth over it nor should we subject anyone else to the boredom of that lol for me it's clear that 99% of the population that follows AFL football think that it is a very low act a dog act if you like for a grown man inside or outside of football for that matter to do. Only ever happened twice on a AFL field that i'm aware of, that fact alone should be enough to understand where it ranks and how it is judged by the wider football community let alone the majority of the greater public.   

For what it's worth your mouth is a cesspit of bacteria good and bad, 600 various kinds of bacteria can inhabit the human mouth  this is why we shun the habit of spitting on a individual. If the skin is broken a doctor will immediately prescribe antibiotics to prevent anykind of infection as was the case with Suban and the Freo medical staff, Quote from the AFL site "A photo of Suban's left forearm was shown to an AFL investigator on Monday and again to the Tribunal on Tuesday, showing a clear breaking of the skin, which Fremantle said had required treatment and a course of antibiotics." end quote. No blood is required to be in your mouth to cause infection the bacteria in the mouth is sufficient enough to do it a simple Google search will tell you this.

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000035.htm

Human bites may be more dangerous than most animal bites. There are germs in some human mouths that can cause infections that are hard to treat. If you have an infected human bite, especially on your hand, you may need to be admitted to the hospital to receive antibiotics through a vein (intravenously). In some cases, you may need surgery.

I probably should have been more specific, but I was referring more to serious diseases rather than bacterial infection- which can become serious, but antibiotics will clear right up unless Masten has been licking a hospital floor. If your saliva was so deadly then I'd be killing hordes of chicks on a saturday night.

Once again, I don't think it's a good thing to do, and I'd slam someone with a couple of weeks for it as well. What I'm questioning here isn't if it's a dog act, but it's why it's regarded as so much worse than a punch- I understand that the majority of the footballing population would believe so, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily right. Punches kill people... as for biting, unless you're ripping someone's throat out, you're probably not going to off them with a nibble.

I'm just really trying to reiterate that before we slam Masten too hard we should look at why we're doing so- if he'd smacked Suban barely anyone would have thought otherwise, and really why is that better? My gut reaction to a footballer biting someone is revulsion, but if I think about and reflect on it, in the scheme of things where you have a similar outcry on Lake choking petrie out, on Judd trying to dislocate someone's injured shoulder, or any other numerous less talked about instances where a player goes out of their way to hurt another player in a way that can do serious damage, it seems like an excessive judgement.

For shower like this I think it's important to try and figure out/ justify why we feel and believe what we do, rather than just assume it to be something inherently true.

But, as important

This is being over-analysed.

Biting is bad and shouldn't happen in society or on the football field hence the suspension for Masten.

This never would have happened if Suban played the ball and didn't sit on top of Masten impeding is run at the football.

End of.

If you're not a cow you're probably not going to get bit.

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