Naitanui replacement, cheaper options?

Started by mark44, August 11, 2015, 10:46:40 PM

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ronl

If Kreuzer can stay healthy he'll certainly be top three next year:  Goldy, Martin, Kreuzer.  From an economic pov I'll probably start the year with him, then pick up Goldy or Martin when they dip in price.

mark44

So would you roll the dice and go kruzer for the rest of the year at r2 to have money to upgrade elsewhere


MC

Quote from: ronl on August 13, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
If Kreuzer can stay healthy he'll certainly be top three next year:  Goldy, Martin, Kreuzer

Jeez that's a big call.
I can think of a few blokes who'd have something to say about that!
Mummy, Jacobs, NicNat, Blicavs, Sandi, Lobbe (if port sort their shower out), The Mullet...

Even Hickey/Longer, Witts/Grundy, Giles (if solo), McEvoy, Minson (might get traded) could all go better than Kreuz!


I rate Kreuz about the same chance as Bellchambers & Leuey to get a consistent run; very slim.

Holz

Quote from: MC on August 13, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: ronl on August 13, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
If Kreuzer can stay healthy he'll certainly be top three next year:  Goldy, Martin, Kreuzer

Jeez that's a big call.
I can think of a few blokes who'd have something to say about that!
Mummy, Jacobs, NicNat, Blicavs, Sandi, Lobbe (if port sort their shower out), The Mullet...

Even Hickey/Longer, Witts/Grundy, Giles (if solo), McEvoy, Minson (might get traded) could all go better than Kreuz!


I rate Kreuz about the same chance as Bellchambers & Leuey to get a consistent run; very slim.

seems a crazy call when some rucks are averaging more than his highest score this year.

RaisyDaisy

I'm just going to say it

Kruezer will never be SC relevant. Won't be a good enough scorer, and if he does go well he will get injured anyway

It's a shame for him personally, but it's just too hard for me to see this guy ever getting right or being dominant enough for SC

Holden the ball

Quote from: Holz on August 13, 2015, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: MC on August 13, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: ronl on August 13, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
If Kreuzer can stay healthy he'll certainly be top three next year:  Goldy, Martin, Kreuzer

Jeez that's a big call.
I can think of a few blokes who'd have something to say about that!
Mummy, Jacobs, NicNat, Blicavs, Sandi, Lobbe (if port sort their shower out), The Mullet...

Even Hickey/Longer, Witts/Grundy, Giles (if solo), McEvoy, Minson (might get traded) could all go better than Kreuz!


I rate Kreuz about the same chance as Bellchambers & Leuey to get a consistent run; very slim.

seems a crazy call when some rucks are averaging more than his highest score this year.

stupid to say you would rather have luey and belchambers over kreuz, kreuzer is 100 times better than both of them

MC

Quote from: Holden the ball on August 13, 2015, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Holz on August 13, 2015, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: MC on August 13, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
Quote from: ronl on August 13, 2015, 09:59:50 AM
If Kreuzer can stay healthy he'll certainly be top three next year:  Goldy, Martin, Kreuzer

Jeez that's a big call.
I can think of a few blokes who'd have something to say about that!
Mummy, Jacobs, NicNat, Blicavs, Sandi, Lobbe (if port sort their shower out), The Mullet...

Even Hickey/Longer, Witts/Grundy, Giles (if solo), McEvoy, Minson (might get traded) could all go better than Kreuz!


I rate Kreuz about the same chance as Bellchambers & Leuey to get a consistent run; very slim.

seems a crazy call when some rucks are averaging more than his highest score this year.

stupid to say you would rather have luey and belchambers over kreuz, kreuzer is 100 times better than both of them

If you read a touch more carefully you'd notice that I never said that. I said that he has the same chance as them of getting a consistent run of games...
Are you a Blues fan by chance to be so defensive?

MC

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
I'm just going to say it

Kruezer will never be SC relevant. Won't be a good enough scorer, and if he does go well he will get injured anyway

It's a shame for him personally, but it's just too hard for me to see this guy ever getting right or being dominant enough for SC

Agree.

ants

Quote from: MC on August 13, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
I'm just going to say it

Kruezer will never be SC relevant. Won't be a good enough scorer, and if he does go well he will get injured anyway

It's a shame for him personally, but it's just too hard for me to see this guy ever getting right or being dominant enough for SC

Agree.
i am a blues fan but looking at it from a sc point of view i strongly disagree! the guy will be a very good scorer if he can just stay on the park! ruckman generally dont perform to well after a serious injury! its like they need a descent run of games to get there mojo up and running! goldstein and mummy are prime examples! unfortunately kreuz is injury prone! and i think he has probably only played about half the games in his career! if he stays on the park for the rest of the year and an injury free pre season i will be starting him next year! and if he stays injury free for the whole year i cant see him averaging under 100! like i said i am a carlton supporter but the way carlton are playing i am more interested in sc! hope that changes in a few years from now!

Holz

Quote from: ants on August 13, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
Quote from: MC on August 13, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
I'm just going to say it

Kruezer will never be SC relevant. Won't be a good enough scorer, and if he does go well he will get injured anyway

It's a shame for him personally, but it's just too hard for me to see this guy ever getting right or being dominant enough for SC

Agree.
i am a blues fan but looking at it from a sc point of view i strongly disagree! the guy will be a very good scorer if he can just stay on the park! ruckman generally dont perform to well after a serious injury! its like they need a descent run of games to get there mojo up and running! goldstein and mummy are prime examples! unfortunately kreuz is injury prone! and i think he has probably only played about half the games in his career! if he stays on the park for the rest of the year and an injury free pre season i will be starting him next year! and if he stays injury free for the whole year i cant see him averaging under 100! like i said i am a carlton supporter but the way carlton are playing i am more interested in sc! hope that changes in a few years from now!

he has shown absoultely nothing to indicate that he will remain healthy and if anything every points towards him not being healthy. If he got 100% fit and had a full preseason and played 22 games without an injury than he could join the ranks of being a premo ruck matching it with guys like Jacobs and Martin. Thats a big iff.

He wont reach the heights of Goldy even if he never gets another injury in his career.

ants

Quote from: Holz on August 13, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: ants on August 13, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
Quote from: MC on August 13, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 13, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
I'm just going to say it

Kruezer will never be SC relevant. Won't be a good enough scorer, and if he does go well he will get injured anyway

It's a shame for him personally, but it's just too hard for me to see this guy ever getting right or being dominant enough for SC

Agree.
i am a blues fan but looking at it from a sc point of view i strongly disagree! the guy will be a very good scorer if he can just stay on the park! ruckman generally dont perform to well after a serious injury! its like they need a descent run of games to get there mojo up and running! goldstein and mummy are prime examples! unfortunately kreuz is injury prone! and i think he has probably only played about half the games in his career! if he stays on the park for the rest of the year and an injury free pre season i will be starting him next year! and if he stays injury free for the whole year i cant see him averaging under 100! like i said i am a carlton supporter but the way carlton are playing i am more interested in sc! hope that changes in a few years from now!

he has shown absoultely nothing to indicate that he will remain healthy and if anything every points towards him not being healthy. If he got 100% fit and had a full preseason and played 22 games without an injury than he could join the ranks of being a premo ruck matching it with guys like Jacobs and Martin. Thats a big iff.

He wont reach the heights of Goldy even if he never gets another injury in his career.
yes thats pretty much what i said and agree goldy is a freak but you would be crazy to start him next year! kreuz will be my number 2 ruck anyway!

Grazz

Quote from: Holden the ball on August 12, 2015, 05:56:25 PM
My league that I focus on the most I have the bye worth using my last trade to trade out Nic or just cop the donut

I'd take the donut mate and save that trade for the prelim or the GF if you make it.

mark44

Okay, so out of

Maric
Vs
Mcevoy
Vs
Kreuzer
vs
giles

Need cheap ruck, state case from these 4 please

Goosey

Quote from: mark44 on August 13, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
Okay, so out of

Maric
Vs
Mcevoy
Vs
Kreuzer
vs
giles

Need cheap ruck, state case from these 4 please

Gotta be Maric doesn't it?

Degsman

Quote from: mark44 on August 13, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
Okay, so out of

Maric
Vs
Mcevoy
Vs
Kreuzer
vs
giles

Need cheap ruck, state case from these 4 please


With Hampson dropped I think it would have to be maric