Post Ashes Test Team

[Jay]

I don't like Johnson and Starc in the same team. They're too similar.. Do the same things well, and the same things poorly.

Pattinson, Cummins and Hazlewood are the future.

[valkorum]

Yeah I'm looking at something like this:

Warner
Burns
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Nevill
Johnson
Starc
Cummins
Lyon

12th man: MMarsh

This is our team for the Day-Night Test and the Summer IMO. Khawaja is a handy one as he has test experience along with Burns and the bowlers can really steady the ship. In the end a lot comes down to Smith, as it should with a Captain. Hazlewood is a good bowler in England but in here I'd rather the raw pace of Cummins. Johnson and Starc can be very economical and as aggressive as this lineup is, it's what works here.

Hey Torp - you only selected 10 players.

[valkorum]

Warner
Burns
Smith
Handscomb
Bancroft
M Marsh
Nevill
Johnson
Starc
Hazelwood
Lyon

If you are looking to the future then Khawaja is not the way to go - Bancroft and Handscomb are.  Burns is the obvious choice to come in to open with Warner.  I would love for Voges to get more games but his time has passed.

I personally wouldn't have Nevill as the keeper - Matthew Wade would be my option there but they have already selected Nevill over Haddin so they will stick with that.  Matthew Wade/Sam Whiteman should be the backup here

The bowling lineup has actually been ok - the scores we have bowled them out for haven't been that bad.  The backup bowlers here (in order) - Cummins, Behrendorff, Pattinson.  Obviously Ahmed is the spin option behind Lyon - followed by Agar.

[Jay]

Warner
Bancroft
Burns
Smith
Head
M Marsh
Nevill
Cummins
Pattinson
Hazelwood
Lyon

They've got to do a full clean out, pick some guys and stick with them.

[Jukes]

Bancroft
Warner
Harris
Klinger
Smith
Mitch Marsh
Whiteman
Agar
Johnno
Siddle
Behrendorff

Easy enough

[Nige]

So there's going to be a few casualties after this ashes, Clarkey gone already, Haddin/Rogers/Voges/S.Marsh/Johnson/Siddle could potentially hang up the boots, what team line up would you like to see?

Im thinking bout culling most of the old boys and having a team line up for the future along the lines of

Warner
Maddinson
Smith
Khwaja
Burns
M.Marsh
Neville
Johnson
Starc
Hazelwood
Lyon

Pattinson/Cummins back up bowling
Not sure who might back up the batting though haha

and give these guys a year at it without any kneejerk changes from test to test

I like the look of this team. I'd push Burns up to opener with Warner and have Handscomb or Ferguson in the middle order.

Yep, Maddinson out and Burns to open. Khawaja at 3. Smith bats best at 4. Handscomb at 5. MMarsh and Nevill stay in their spots. Even though I don't like him (see PB's comment), Starc stays. If Johnson does move on or is moved on, replace him with Cummins/Pattinson. Hazlewood and Lyon (wouldn't mind Fawad getting a crack though tbh) are fine.

[Koop]

The main problem we have at the moment is the lack of experience. We have been chopping and changing the side so often that now with Clarke and Rogers gone, and Johnson only on a ticking time bomb until he implodes again, it leaves very little experience whatsoever. I like all of your suggested XI's, however I think there are too many new/young players that is going to cause an imbalance within the side. We have no one with any leadership skills AND experience in the side after Smith, and even that can be called into question at times. I'd seriously be calling the selectors to buy their pot if they ever stick the VC on Warner or Johnson, while Lyon is not that type of cricketer.  We flowered up badly with a few players over the years, however this could be a great time to say to a few of them that this is their time to step into the side for 18 months, mentor Smith and the younger ones coming through, and then make way for fresh blood at the end of next summer. 

Bancroft
Warner
Khawja
Ferguson/Klinger (vc)
Smith (c)
Voges
Nevill
Johnson (only a matter of time though)
Starc (for now, again, could be only a matter of time)
Pattinson/Hazelwood
Lyon

12th: Mitch Marsh, theres no use for a 5th in Australian conditions. Better to shore up the batting.

Bancroft is a talent and needs to be utilized.

Khawja has done his second apprenticeship, its time to give him another shot. If he fails, go Burns.

Its been a long exile for Ferg. However the middle order need his experience badly. Hell, I wouldnt mind if they go back to Klinger and give him HIS flowerING RIGHTFUL 2 YEARS IN THE SIDE, but we can't have so many inexperienced batsmen in our side, and we need a genuine VC who can guide Smith.

Voges did enough in the shield last summer and in the Caribean to ride out one bad series, and with experience on his side, which this side is lacking, I would hope he will JUST hold on to his Number 6 spot for the summer. Wouldn't mind a Bailey call-up though.

Nevill is fine, however Tim Ludeman or Sam Whiteman should be knocking down the door over the summer if Nevill drops his game. Just please God not Matthew Wade, guy can't keep to spin to save his life.

Johnson is on a ticking time bomb. He has managed to keep his form up, but there is always the danger of the fallout from a few years ago happening again. Expect Cummins to be waiting in the wings, as you can't have 3 left-armers in the team. I'd even say Johnson and Starc are too simillar.

Starc worries me, but he's taking wickets so good on him.

Pattinson or Hazlewood is really a much of a muchness. It depends on whether you're wanting a stump to stump bowler to counter the excitement of MJ/Starc or you want a third livewire.

Lyon is fine. SOK, Zampa and Agar in the wings.

As I said, I like all of your teams, but I feel that what is on the paper isnt going to translate into what happens on the field. Some of these are great test teams for 2-3 years time, but there needs to be a transition process.

[Kellogscrunchynut]

How about Chris Lynn first class average of 45 ain't shabby.

[valkorum]

How about Chris Lynn first class average of 45 ain't shabby.

I looked at him but couldnt get him in over Bancroft and Handscomb.  I think Burns has to be the new opener so that only left 2 batting spots left.

[Capper]

Starc is a better white ball bowler than red ball. Johno is a better bowler with a kookaburra. It would be good if anyone could spell Hazlewood as well ::)

My team

Warner
SMarsh
Smith
Burns
Voges
MMarsh
Nevill
Johno
Cummings
Hazlewood
Lyon

[Torpedo10]

Starc is a better white ball bowler than red ball. Johno is a better bowler with a kookaburra. It would be good if anyone could spell Hazlewood as well ::)

My team

Warner
SMarsh
Smith
Burns
Voges
MMarsh
Nevill
Johno
Cummings
Hazlewood
Lyon

I spelt it right.  :P

Your hypocrisy is awfully high considering your spelling.

[The_Captain]

Bancroft has to be the opener to replace rogers. Perfect opener.

Bancroft
Warner
Burns
Smith
Khawja
M marsh
Neville
Starc
Hazelwood
Pattinson
Lyon

Voges to be next batter in line if one is failing. Cummins next bowler. Persist with Mitch Marsh for a bit, and if he doesn't come on, then Henriques could be the worth a shot.

Johnson not sure if he has much in him, if he does he would have pattinsons spot i spose.,

[The_Captain]

How about Chris Lynn first class average of 45 ain't shabby.

Think he will play odi for aus  before tests.

[Capper]

Starc is a better white ball bowler than red ball. Johno is a better bowler with a kookaburra. It would be good if anyone could spell Hazlewood as well ::)

My team

Warner
SMarsh
Smith
Burns
Voges
MMarsh
Nevill
Johno
Cummings
Hazlewood
Lyon

I spelt it right.  :P

Your hypocrisy is awfully high considering your spelling.

I saw 3 blokes Sitting together at the cricket all with Hazlewood shirts on
they read

Hazzlewood
Hazelwood
Hazlewood

Good work lads

[Bill Manspeaker]

Starc is a better white ball bowler than red ball. Johno is a better bowler with a kookaburra. It would be good if anyone could spell Hazlewood as well ::)

My team

Warner
SMarsh
Smith
Burns
Voges
MMarsh
Nevill
Johno
Cummings
Hazlewood
Lyon

I spelt it right.  :P

Your hypocrisy is awfully high considering your spelling.

I saw 3 blokes Sitting together at the cricket all with Hazlewood shirts on
they read

Hazzlewood
Hazelwood
Hazlewood

Good work lads

and 3 other blokes sitting there with Cummins shirts on
they read

Cummins
Cummings
Cumonhertits

:P