2015 WXV Awards and 2015 Rules Discussion

[Memphistopheles]

The points cap is pretty much useless if teams just trade in injured players.

I can see the merit behind the best of the previous 2 years being the one that counts but I don't think previous seasons should have as much influence as the one just gone.

Libba is a gun with 0 points. That's not exactly an accurate representation of his value. But neither is making him worth full points since he's no certainty to bounce back to that level. I think we should count whichever is higher out of 90% of 2014 scores vs 100% of 2015 scores. A guy like Rocky shouldn't be worth the full 100% of his 2014 output because he's no certainty to get back to those astonishing levels ever again.

its the system though. I guess it kind of helps teams with injured players.

If it wasn't for the cap i wouldn't be trading in Liberatore i would have kept Tmac + Mundy.

as I have said the cap just distorts reality and causes mis pricing.

Which is why I am very for the home-grown players costing less cap points rule that was mooted.

If you draft a player then if they've been on your list for X number of years (lets say 3 seasons) they get a 10/20/30% discount when determining your cap.

[Vinny]

Our coaches award will go to Sir Easton Wood.

In what was a disaaponiting year for the Dillos , the 25 year old stepped up as the general in defence posting an average of 87. Wood played all but one game and managed a solid 10 scores of 85 and above with 6 of them cracking the tonne. After a mere 68 average in 2014, Easton was on the brink of leaving the club but following a plea to earn his place, he was held and he flowering delivered.

Missed us Os ;)

[Purple 77]

Oh yeah, will get round to sending the rule votes in due course... basically every idea mentioned in this thread will be voted on.

[Holz]

Oh yeah, will get round to sending the rule votes in due course... basically every idea mentioned in this thread will be voted on.

surely we cant change the cap rules for this year. It would have to be the year after, given all trades are based on current rules

[meow meow]

2. Getting up for a match

I don't think we could have but #1 and #2, but how about this:

You can choose to train your team really hard for a week, and get a +10% bonus the next round, but a -20% penalty the round after.

Finals wouldn't count.

Thinking about this some more, I think it is a terrible rule. If one week we had Mexico City vs Dublin, then next week Dublin are playing Buenos Aires but Mexico City have a match against PNL it brings an extra element of luck into the game. The same situation could arise between mid-tier teams, where team A has another mid-tier opponent next week and team B has a match against Dublin that they're not going to win anyway. Or maybe they would have won but they've effectively given themselves no chance, handing Dublin an extra win. It's like teams resting players against Dublin, all it does it advantage them even more.

[meow meow]

Oh yeah, will get round to sending the rule votes in due course... basically every idea mentioned in this thread will be voted on.

surely we cant change the cap rules for this year. It would have to be the year after, given all trades are based on current rules

What trades? I'm pretty sure that no trades have been done yet. Probably shouldn't get anywhere further than preliminary negotiations until the rules are voted on.

[ossie85]

Oh yeah, will get round to sending the rule votes in due course... basically every idea mentioned in this thread will be voted on.

surely we cant change the cap rules for this year. It would have to be the year after, given all trades are based on current rules

What trades? I'm pretty sure that no trades have been done yet. Probably shouldn't get anywhere further than preliminary negotiations until the rules are voted on.

Exactly. This is why rules are going to be voted on before trading starts.

[Holz]

Oh yeah, will get round to sending the rule votes in due course... basically every idea mentioned in this thread will be voted on.

surely we cant change the cap rules for this year. It would have to be the year after, given all trades are based on current rules

What trades? I'm pretty sure that no trades have been done yet. Probably shouldn't get anywhere further than preliminary negotiations until the rules are voted on.

Exactly. This is why rules are going to be voted on before trading starts.

Can i propose a rule change:

Rule Change 3458: Bring back the rules from when the WXV just started, when it was just fun and easy.

[Holz]

having people vote on rule changes is completely unfair. Everyone will just do whats best for their team. If you have lots of injured players then the existing rule is good. If you dont its in your best interest to vote for the new rule.

Have an gun ruck: clearly you vote for the rules as they are, don't have a ruck vote for the new rules.

the system is based on self interest.

[ossie85]

having people vote on rule changes is completely unfair. Everyone will just do whats best for their team. If you have lots of injured players then the existing rule is good. If you dont its in your best interest to vote for the new rule.

Have an gun ruck: clearly you vote for the rules as they are, don't have a ruck vote for the new rules.

the system is based on self interest.

disagree. Some, or even most, will vote what is best for the competition. 100% of coaches voted for New Delhi's priority pick when it disadvantaged them. I think most coaches here are mature enough to look past self interest.

[Toga]

disagree. Some, or even most, will vote what is best for the competition. 100% of coaches voted for New Delhi's priority pick when it disadvantaged them. I think most coaches here are mature enough to look past self interest.

[Holz]

disagree. Some, or even most, will vote what is best for the competition. 100% of coaches voted for New Delhi's priority pick when it disadvantaged them. I think most coaches here are mature enough to look past self interest.

There is a difference in moving one spot down the order and having a 75% OOP ruck. If you have a bad ruck spot.

[ossie85]

Purps should we say all rule suggestions need to be in by Sunday so vote can be sent out Monday?

[JBs-Hawks]

I have my rucks set and I will vote for a 75% ruck.

[Boomz]

I have my rucks set and I will vote for a 75% ruck.

and I had OOP ruck most of the year and will vote the opposite. There goes your theory holz...