2015 WXV Awards and 2015 Rules Discussion

[Ricochet]

Holz just trade/delist Jetta, VB, Walker, Schoenmakers etc. There's nearly 3000 points there

[meow meow]

^ It's called list management, every team has to do it. So what if Dublin can't afford ANOTHER premo player on their list? Deal with it.

[Purple 77]

Planning on how all of your players will perform in 2017, IN TWO YEARS TIME, is totally unrealistic and IMO is a colossal waste of time.

Planning for next year alone bears with it a great deal of uncertainty as it is.

[Holz]

Holz just trade/delist Jetta, VB, Walker, Schoenmakers etc. There's nearly 3000 points there

as always I just use Dublin as an example.

I will be fine thats not the problem. However who it was a problem for was Dillos and its the reason they are in such a bad shape.

when SJ Grundy and Murphy potentially retire next year then those guys above are vital. Schoenemakers is my f6 and I have needed him this year.

when Murphy Grundy go Schoenemakers is potentially my D5


As i said i will be fine and work a way around it. Beijing is who im really worried about, I dont think a repeat of dublin is possible, its really hard for teams to climb up the ladder as seen by beijing, unless they package all those guys for a star. But i dont think they will be able to do it.

[Holz]

Planning on how all of your players will perform in 2017, IN TWO YEARS TIME, is totally unrealistic and IMO is a colossal waste of time.

Planning for next year alone bears with it a great deal of uncertainty as it is.

its what i did in 2012/2013 for 2014/2015 and it got me into 2 grand finals and potentially two flags.

[MajorLazer]

So trade the old guys for less than their 'value'??

This whole thing has been pretty funny btw.

[Purple 77]

Holz just trade/delist Jetta, VB, Walker, Schoenmakers etc. There's nearly 3000 points there

I will be fine thats not the problem. However who it was a problem for was Dillos and its the reason they are in such a bad shape.

Please elaborate. I'd like to hear your reasoning.

[Boomz]

This whole thing has been pretty funny btw.

[meow meow]

I've got Sandi, Mitchell, Boyd and Dempster who'll retire after next year. I want Naitanui, Laird, Parker and Dangerfield to replace them. LET ME HAVE THEM ALL THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE OLD GUYS WILL RETIRE SOON! They won't take up cap space in 2017 so why can't I have them now? :'(

[Holz]

Holz just trade/delist Jetta, VB, Walker, Schoenmakers etc. There's nearly 3000 points there

I will be fine thats not the problem. However who it was a problem for was Dillos and its the reason they are in such a bad shape.

Please elaborate. I'd like to hear your reasoning.

I have posted a big thing about it when it was happening but the post above pretty much sums it up

"So trade the old guys for less than their 'value'??"

thats what they did,

combined with this "trade/delist Jetta, VB, Walker, Schoenmakers etc. "

having a situation where depth has to be sacked combined with an inability to trade out older players as the only teams who want them have cap issues themselves, combined with not getting any youth coming through with picks. means when a team goes to push for a flag having 25 players or less is the correct move to go for it (with the cap) they get stuck unless extremely good list management and end up with a severe lack of talent on thier list and having to fire sale guys like Swan.



This isnt a dublin issue by the way Im under the cap so im all good.  But thats because I have been trading in youth all the time and have a extremely strong list, which gives me an ability to do that. But its more i have got lucky with guys like Tmac. 

[Holz]

I've got Sandi, Mitchell, Boyd and Dempster who'll retire after next year. I want Naitanui, Laird, Parker and Dangerfield to replace them. LET ME HAVE THEM ALL THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE OLD GUYS WILL RETIRE SOON! They won't take up cap space in 2017 so why can't I have them now? :'(

to be fair I want schoenemakers, josh walker, nathan van berlo, sam frost to cover them not those guys.

Can we focus on Beijing not Dublin for once. I dont need it im sorted no matter the rule. Make it no discount and im still fine.

[Purple 77]

I have posted a big thing about it when it was happening but the post above pretty much sums it up

I remember it well. Still going with that?


Nope, I can't bang my forehead on my desk any more, I'm out of this conversation.

[meow meow]

I've got Sandi, Mitchell, Boyd and Dempster who'll retire after next year. I want Naitanui, Laird, Parker and Dangerfield to replace them. LET ME HAVE THEM ALL THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE OLD GUYS WILL RETIRE SOON! They won't take up cap space in 2017 so why can't I have them now? :'(

to be fair I want schoenemakers, josh walker, nathan van berlo, sam frost to cover them not those guys.

Can we focus on Beijing not Dublin for once. I dont need it im sorted no matter the rule. Make it no discount and im still fine.

I thought you said you wanted Liberatore too? Or am I just imagining things?

[Holz]

I have posted a big thing about it when it was happening but the post above pretty much sums it up

I remember it well. Still going with that?


Nope, I can't bang my forehead on my desk any more, I'm out of this conversation.

I agree im pulling out of this conversation.

Dublin is fine, the rules help Dublin. Ill survive.

I got to stop looking out for other people, i get attacked for it so ill just step away and see how the rules pan out.

[Holz]

I've got Sandi, Mitchell, Boyd and Dempster who'll retire after next year. I want Naitanui, Laird, Parker and Dangerfield to replace them. LET ME HAVE THEM ALL THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE OLD GUYS WILL RETIRE SOON! They won't take up cap space in 2017 so why can't I have them now? :'(

to be fair I want schoenemakers, josh walker, nathan van berlo, sam frost to cover them not those guys.

Can we focus on Beijing not Dublin for once. I dont need it im sorted no matter the rule. Make it no discount and im still fine.

I thought you said you wanted Liberatore too? Or am I just imagining things?

last comment on this. I wanted libba to fill their cap space. Not cover, he is already starting 15. Scharenberg will hopefully cover murphy and schoenamekrs will hopefully cover the shaz.