Rd 17 trades..

Started by Mark, July 19, 2015, 07:25:20 PM

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GCSkiwi

Sloane named is making me rethink trading him to GAJ, can someone please give me a wallop and tell me to flick him anyway? Thanks.

PICCOLLO

Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 24, 2015, 07:12:20 AM
Sloane named is making me rethink trading him to GAJ, can someone please give me a wallop and tell me to flick him anyway? Thanks.

How many trades do you have? 

Gaz is brilliant but trading out a playing premo, who has been in decent form, is not the way to go.

RaisyDaisy

Really stumped

Houli to Kelly or Pearce to Fields to generate the funds I need to do Beams to GAJ?

PICCOLLO

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Really stumped

Houli to Kelly or Pearce to Fields to generate the funds I need to do Beams to GAJ?

Depends if you're looking short term or long term.
Edwards and Fields on your defensive bench may hurt you big time if a player misses.  They'll probably not be playing when you need them or score poorly.  Houli to Kelly will cost you 5-10ppg (Kelly durability questionable too) by years ends but beams to Gaz gets you 10-15ppg and a captain option.

Holding wouldn't be the worst thing but you'll lose the Kelly option.  I know your eyes are on Gaz but waiting a week to look at Sloane and getting him for Beams might be a goer.  He's a super premo and very POD. Again though, there's an injury risk associated with the trade.

Tough call. 


Donnie Brasco

Hamling/ Pearce -> Goddard
Beams -> Ablett

love your thoughts guys...

GCSkiwi

Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 24, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 24, 2015, 07:12:20 AM
Sloane named is making me rethink trading him to GAJ, can someone please give me a wallop and tell me to flick him anyway? Thanks.

How many trades do you have? 

Gaz is brilliant but trading out a playing premo, who has been in decent form, is not the way to go.

I have 7 trades left, Sloane to Ablett and Clark to Bartel finishes my team...

PICCOLLO

Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 24, 2015, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 24, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 24, 2015, 07:12:20 AM
Sloane named is making me rethink trading him to GAJ, can someone please give me a wallop and tell me to flick him anyway? Thanks.

How many trades do you have? 

Gaz is brilliant but trading out a playing premo, who has been in decent form, is not the way to go.

I have 7 trades left, Sloane to Ablett and Clark to Bartel finishes my team...

5 trades and a finished team is solid.
Clark to Bartel for sure.
Gaz for Sloane is fine but who are your other premo mids?  Sloane (when fit) is a guy who will push 120+ avg. Any other underperformers? Selwood maybe?

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 24, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Really stumped

Houli to Kelly or Pearce to Fields to generate the funds I need to do Beams to GAJ?

Depends if you're looking short term or long term.
Edwards and Fields on your defensive bench may hurt you big time if a player misses.  They'll probably not be playing when you need them or score poorly.  Houli to Kelly will cost you 5-10ppg (Kelly durability questionable too) by years ends but beams to Gaz gets you 10-15ppg and a captain option.

Holding wouldn't be the worst thing but you'll lose the Kelly option.  I know your eyes are on Gaz but waiting a week to look at Sloane and getting him for Beams might be a goer.  He's a super premo and very POD. Again though, there's an injury risk associated with the trade.

Tough call.

Cheers Pic :)

It's a tough one indeed. The situation basically is that this is the only week that I can get GAJ. If I don't get him this week then I wont be able to get him at all, and although Sloane is incredible value, I think I would prefer to wait and see on him, and he could always be an option if someone like Jelwood continues to spud up

Edwards and Fields is a dodgy bench, but with 2 trades left I would be using those two trades for sideways injury or luxury trades. There's no more upgrading or downgrading. I'm sitting top of the ladder in my cash league, so if I needed to field Edwards one week from now until finals that should be fine, but if I need to field him during the finals then I would just use one of my 2 remaining trades to sideways out the defender who misses

I'm just not convinced on Kelly's durability and potential sub risking. It's not as if Pearce is going to give me fantastic cover anyway

Pretty much convincing myself to get Fields aren't I?

PICCOLLO

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 24, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Really stumped

Houli to Kelly or Pearce to Fields to generate the funds I need to do Beams to GAJ?

Depends if you're looking short term or long term.
Edwards and Fields on your defensive bench may hurt you big time if a player misses.  They'll probably not be playing when you need them or score poorly.  Houli to Kelly will cost you 5-10ppg (Kelly durability questionable too) by years ends but beams to Gaz gets you 10-15ppg and a captain option.

Holding wouldn't be the worst thing but you'll lose the Kelly option.  I know your eyes are on Gaz but waiting a week to look at Sloane and getting him for Beams might be a goer.  He's a super premo and very POD. Again though, there's an injury risk associated with the trade.

Tough call.

Cheers Pic :)

It's a tough one indeed. The situation basically is that this is the only week that I can get GAJ. If I don't get him this week then I wont be able to get him at all, and although Sloane is incredible value, I think I would prefer to wait and see on him, and he could always be an option if someone like Jelwood continues to spud up

Edwards and Fields is a dodgy bench, but with 2 trades left I would be using those two trades for sideways injury or luxury trades. There's no more upgrading or downgrading. I'm sitting top of the ladder in my cash league, so if I needed to field Edwards one week from now until finals that should be fine, but if I need to field him during the finals then I would just use one of my 2 remaining trades to sideways out the defender who misses

I'm just not convinced on Kelly's durability and potential sub risking. It's not as if Pearce is going to give me fantastic cover anyway

Pretty much convincing myself to get Fields aren't I?

Sounds like it.  It's not the worst move you could make.  With only two trades left, you're limited to injury trades.  If Goldy has a week off then you'll have to wear it.  If you're okay with that then roll the dice.  Your team is good enough to wear the odd bad score or donut from a defender.

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 24, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Really stumped

Houli to Kelly or Pearce to Fields to generate the funds I need to do Beams to GAJ?

Depends if you're looking short term or long term.
Edwards and Fields on your defensive bench may hurt you big time if a player misses.  They'll probably not be playing when you need them or score poorly.  Houli to Kelly will cost you 5-10ppg (Kelly durability questionable too) by years ends but beams to Gaz gets you 10-15ppg and a captain option.

Holding wouldn't be the worst thing but you'll lose the Kelly option.  I know your eyes are on Gaz but waiting a week to look at Sloane and getting him for Beams might be a goer.  He's a super premo and very POD. Again though, there's an injury risk associated with the trade.

Tough call.

Cheers Pic :)

It's a tough one indeed. The situation basically is that this is the only week that I can get GAJ. If I don't get him this week then I wont be able to get him at all, and although Sloane is incredible value, I think I would prefer to wait and see on him, and he could always be an option if someone like Jelwood continues to spud up

Edwards and Fields is a dodgy bench, but with 2 trades left I would be using those two trades for sideways injury or luxury trades. There's no more upgrading or downgrading. I'm sitting top of the ladder in my cash league, so if I needed to field Edwards one week from now until finals that should be fine, but if I need to field him during the finals then I would just use one of my 2 remaining trades to sideways out the defender who misses

I'm just not convinced on Kelly's durability and potential sub risking. It's not as if Pearce is going to give me fantastic cover anyway

Pretty much convincing myself to get Fields aren't I?

Would go Tmac to to Kelly instead, don't think he will produce anything like his start to the season. Roos has been pretty clear about trialing him as a forward.

Don't like the Fields pick at all, particularly with Edwards vulnerable as well. At least with Pearce you know he won't get dropped, 2 outs in defence and you are in a world of trouble.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on July 24, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
Would go Tmac to to Kelly instead, don't think he will produce anything like his start to the season. Roos has been pretty clear about trialing him as a forward.

Don't like the Fields pick at all, particularly with Edwards vulnerable as well. At least with Pearce you know he won't get dropped, 2 outs in defence and you are in a world of trouble.

TMac has a pretty soft draw home, and I honestly think Houli should go before him. 3 60 odd scores in the past 4 games and about to drop more cash


Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 24, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
Would go Tmac to to Kelly instead, don't think he will produce anything like his start to the season. Roos has been pretty clear about trialing him as a forward.

Don't like the Fields pick at all, particularly with Edwards vulnerable as well. At least with Pearce you know he won't get dropped, 2 outs in defence and you are in a world of trouble.

TMac has a pretty soft draw home, and I honestly think Houli should go before him. 3 60 odd scores in the past 4 games and about to drop more cash

TMac has only scored 2 tons in his last 8 matches, with a 36 thrown in for good measure. Houli has been a little down  but I expect he'll bounce back. This decision is purely about their respective roles, KP forward vs rebounding defender, pretty clear cut IMO.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on July 24, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 24, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
Would go Tmac to to Kelly instead, don't think he will produce anything like his start to the season. Roos has been pretty clear about trialing him as a forward.

Don't like the Fields pick at all, particularly with Edwards vulnerable as well. At least with Pearce you know he won't get dropped, 2 outs in defence and you are in a world of trouble.

TMac has a pretty soft draw home, and I honestly think Houli should go before him. 3 60 odd scores in the past 4 games and about to drop more cash

TMac has only scored 2 tons in his last 8 matches, with a 36 thrown in for good measure. Houli has been a little down  but I expect he'll bounce back. This decision is purely about their respective roles, KP forward vs rebounding defender, pretty clear cut IMO.

I think it ultimately comes down to Pearce, and whether or not he is important enough to keep

The reality is he is only good for 50 points every week anyway, and I think long term TMac and Houli are both better options than Kelly. I think Kelly is good for 80+ most weeks and is solid from a scoring point of view, but I do have concerns over his durability

With Essendons season over, I actually don't see why Edwards wont continue to keep playing anyway

GCSkiwi

Quote from: PICCOLLO on July 24, 2015, 11:49:39 AM
5 trades and a finished team is solid.
Clark to Bartel for sure.
Gaz for Sloane is fine but who are your other premo mids?  Sloane (when fit) is a guy who will push 120+ avg. Any other underperformers? Selwood maybe?

Cheers Piccollo - doing work in this thread! :)

My mids are currently Fyfe, Pendles, Hanners, Armo, JPK, Ward, Rocky, Sloane.

I agree Sloane is a gun but barring Rocky he is the worst performing on average, and not sure how well he'll slot back in after injury. And similar to RD, I either get Gaz this week or I'll be out priced (barring making another trade). I think it's a punt worth taking, really the only way it backfires is if Sloane outscores Ablett and I don't see that happening :P

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
I think it ultimately comes down to Pearce, and whether or not he is important enough to keep

The reality is he is only good for 50 points every week anyway, and I think long term TMac and Houli are both better options than Kelly. I think Kelly is good for 80+ most weeks and is solid from a scoring point of view, but I do have concerns over his durability

With Essendons season over, I actually don't see why Edwards wont continue to keep playing anyway

Having looked at your dilemma RD I think Pearce to Fields is the way to go. I think Houli can come back. You're taking a risk either way, but if you're going Houli to Kelly then you're rolling the dice with someone on your field every week, whereas if you go Pearce to Fields you're rolling the dice with someone who ideally never gets onto the field in the first place. The only thing I would say is that there's a lot of talk about the bombers trialling out lots of new players so I wouldn't be super confident in thinking Edwards will play every week, he might get dropped purely so they can look at others. But I think in your shoes I would still take that punt.

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 24, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 24, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: Bully on July 24, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
Would go Tmac to to Kelly instead, don't think he will produce anything like his start to the season. Roos has been pretty clear about trialing him as a forward.

Don't like the Fields pick at all, particularly with Edwards vulnerable as well. At least with Pearce you know he won't get dropped, 2 outs in defence and you are in a world of trouble.

TMac has a pretty soft draw home, and I honestly think Houli should go before him. 3 60 odd scores in the past 4 games and about to drop more cash

TMac has only scored 2 tons in his last 8 matches, with a 36 thrown in for good measure. Houli has been a little down  but I expect he'll bounce back. This decision is purely about their respective roles, KP forward vs rebounding defender, pretty clear cut IMO.

I think it ultimately comes down to Pearce, and whether or not he is important enough to keep

The reality is he is only good for 50 points every week anyway, and I think long term TMac and Houli are both better options than Kelly. I think Kelly is good for 80+ most weeks and is solid from a scoring point of view, but I do have concerns over his durability

With Essendons season over, I actually don't see why Edwards wont continue to keep playing anyway

Fair enough, I guess you still have 2 trades to patch up any absences.